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04/21/2010 09:06:19 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by Sevlow:
Think the part above that I highlighted is what is disapointing people. |
Yep! If you don't like the rules of basic, just enter advanced challenges. Why would you knowingly cheat??? If you end up in the top 5 of a challenge you have to submit your original which will be dq'd as soon as they see you have cheated. |
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04/21/2010 09:23:05 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by love:
Originally posted by Sevlow:
Think the part above that I highlighted is what is disapointing people. |
Yep! If you don't like the rules of basic, just enter advanced challenges. Why would you knowingly cheat??? If you end up in the top 5 of a challenge you have to submit your original which will be dq'd as soon as they see you have cheated. |
I had seen other images in other challenges not being dq'd (for in my opinion similar violations) so I took the chance.
I admit it was wrong, got DQ'd for it, and fully agree with this decision.
So what else do you need from me?
So can somebody teach me how to selectively darken an area in CS4 without touching the brush tool?
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04/21/2010 09:23:51 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by pjotre7:
So can somebody teach me how to selectively darken an area in CS4 without touching the brush tool? |
Use better lighting.... |
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04/21/2010 09:24:34 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by pjotre7:
So can somebody teach me how to selectively darken an area in CS4 without touching the brush tool? |
SELECTIVELY is the keyword here. No way in basic editing. |
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04/21/2010 09:36:28 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by h2:
Originally posted by pjotre7:
So can somebody teach me how to selectively darken an area in CS4 without touching the brush tool? |
SELECTIVELY is the keyword here. No way in basic editing. |
There's actually lots of ways you can do it, but they pretty much all depend on darkening specific colors or specific tonal values in the image. One of the easiest is the sadly misnamed "selective color" tool, which despite its name is legal in basic editing because you you don't have to make selections to do it. Using that tool you can change the relative hues/values of any of about 8 channels, most of them color ranges but also the lights, the mediums, and the darks. So, for example, you can darken the a blue sky with selective color before making your conversion to B/W in the current B/W Landscape challenge.
You can do this sort of stuff very effectively with Topaz Adjust too: it allows you to make global adjustments to the relative values of blue/yellow, magenta/green, and cyan/red, and it's very useful for fine-tuning B/W conversions.
But I don't know offhand of any legal way of darkening only the area you darkened in your lingerie shot...
R. |
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04/21/2010 10:31:12 AM · #31 |
| Note that the other entry in question has not been validated yet, and may still be DQ'd for other reasons. |
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04/21/2010 02:30:19 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Note that the other entry in question has not been validated yet, and may still be DQ'd for other reasons. |
Semi-off topic;
Do discussions like these spur validation requests on singled out photos if none have been issued during voting? |
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04/21/2010 02:32:31 PM · #33 |
Sometimes. To clarify, sometimes an issue will be pointed out that we weren't aware of and we'll request proof to check it out. In other cases, the rule in question was misinterpreted or we can see that the entry is fine by the photographer's comments.
Message edited by author 2010-04-21 17:35:32. |
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04/21/2010 02:35:29 PM · #34 |
| isn't this the second thread started about this same picture being DQed? |
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04/21/2010 02:42:15 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Sometimes. |
Quick follow-up question:
Does SC often check out challenges and see what is entered and create validation requests of their own?
I assume most requests are Plebeian based, but just curious. Don't recall seeing this in the "ask-a-SC" thread. |
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04/21/2010 02:53:21 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
Does SC often check out challenges and see what is entered and create validation requests of their own?
I assume most requests are Plebeian based, but just curious. Don't recall seeing this in the "ask-a-SC" thread. |
Sure, but most requests are from the regular voters. |
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04/21/2010 03:17:31 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by CoreyFitz:
isn't this the second thread started about this same picture being DQed? |
No, he posted the image in the Lingerie scores thread (or one of those, didn't start his own thread) during the voting, after it had been DQ'd, and was asked to not do that until the voting was finished and the results posted.
R.
Message edited by author 2010-04-21 15:18:14. |
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04/21/2010 03:25:11 PM · #38 |
Would you have been happy with this edit? Done with Levels, Increase saturation a little, correct color cast, all done with Photoshop Elements, and some noise reduction with Neat Image. I believe these are all legal in Basic?
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04/21/2010 03:27:28 PM · #39 |
hoped to get away with it.
What else do you think is illegal but do it anyways? |
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04/21/2010 03:32:57 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by CJinCA:
Would you have been happy with this edit? Done with Levels, Increase saturation a little, correct color cast, all done with Photoshop Elements, and some noise reduction with Neat Image. I believe these are all legal in Basic?
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I did that all with CS4 but I wanted to get the rinkles out in between the legs where you can see it is a panty. I wanted viewers to doubt wether is where panties a tattoo or bodypaint. So I needed to darken this area.....
It's all so easy in retrospect. |
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04/21/2010 03:41:39 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by Jac:
hoped to get away with it.
What else do you think is illegal but do it anyways? |
I somethimes drink & drive, ignore traffic lights, avoid taxes where i can.
Look at other women then my own. I tresspass, jaywalk etc.
And who are you? The Saint? |
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04/21/2010 03:51:04 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by pjotre7:
Originally posted by Jac:
hoped to get away with it.
What else do you think is illegal but do it anyways? |
I somethimes drink & drive, ignore traffic lights, avoid taxes where i can.
Look at other women then my own. I tresspass, jaywalk etc.
And who are you? The Saint? |
I'm not a womanizer.
I obey traffic lights for the safety of my fellow citizens, not because I have to.
I don't jaywalk because I know that it's dangerous, being a driver.
Only really big idiots drink and drive, really really big idiots.
I don't trespass because I don't want to be shot by the owner of the property, who has the right to shoot you if you trespass.
I pay my taxes because I know it burdens our society if I don't,
So all in all from what I have read in this thread you don't give a shit about anyone but yourself.
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04/21/2010 03:55:24 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by pjotre7:
Originally posted by Jac:
hoped to get away with it.
What else do you think is illegal but do it anyways? |
I somethimes drink & drive, ignore traffic lights, avoid taxes where i can.
Look at other women then my own. I tresspass, jaywalk etc.
And who are you? The Saint? |
I'm not a womanizer.
I obey traffic lights for the safety of my fellow citizens, not because I have to.
I don't jaywalk because I know that it's dangerous, being a driver.
Only really big idiots drink and drive, really really big idiots.
I don't trespass because I don't want to be shot by the owner of the property, who has the right to shoot you if you trespass.
I pay my taxes because I know it burdens our society if I don't,
So all in all from what I have read in this thread you don't give a shit about anyone but yourself. |
Ahh, you really are the Saint. Congrats! |
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04/21/2010 03:58:50 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by pjotre7:
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by pjotre7:
Originally posted by Jac:
hoped to get away with it.
What else do you think is illegal but do it anyways? |
I somethimes drink & drive, ignore traffic lights, avoid taxes where i can.
Look at other women then my own. I tresspass, jaywalk etc.
And who are you? The Saint? |
I'm not a womanizer.
I obey traffic lights for the safety of my fellow citizens, not because I have to.
I don't jaywalk because I know that it's dangerous, being a driver.
Only really big idiots drink and drive, really really big idiots.
I don't trespass because I don't want to be shot by the owner of the property, who has the right to shoot you if you trespass.
I pay my taxes because I know it burdens our society if I don't,
So all in all from what I have read in this thread you don't give a shit about anyone but yourself. |
Ahh, you really are the Saint. Congrats! |
No. I'm just a regular guy that you cut off when changing lanes without using your flasher. ;)
Or that guy you nearly hit while you were driving drunk.
I just checked your profile to see your age. I'm very surprised.
Have a nice life.
Over and out.
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04/21/2010 04:06:04 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Jac:
No. I'm just a regular guy that you cut off when changing lanes without using your flasher. ;)
Or that guy you nearly hit while you were driving drunk.
I just checked your profile to see your age. I'm very surprised.
Have a nice life.
Over and out. |
Better keep out of my lane then...... |
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04/21/2010 04:18:01 PM · #46 |
You're not doing yourself any favours
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04/21/2010 04:24:18 PM · #47 |
Can't "hoped to get away with it" be just another way of saying "hoped I stayed within the rules?"
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04/21/2010 04:27:29 PM · #48 |
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04/21/2010 04:36:38 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by citymars:
Can't "hoped to get away with it" be just another way of saying "hoped I stayed within the rules?" |
not really....
"hoped to get away with it" is a lot closer to "hoped not to get caught"
This is all very odd, if you ask me. Entering a contest having knowingly broken the rules--I guess I don't get the mentality or logic. Since we know the top ten will be validated for sure, what is the purpose, to cheat in such a way as to stay out of the highest scoring images? And, at the very least, if one chooses to violate the rules, "hoping to get away with it", then when you get caught you should suck it up, not blame the system or try to sling mud on other entries. "Other people may have done it, too!" is a pretty lame defense. |
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04/21/2010 04:51:27 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by Lonni:
Why do you think this one broke the rules?
If it's because of the selective desaturation, this can be achieved with a global hue/saturation adjustment, so is perfectly legal.
What concerns me more is your admission that you broke the rules knowingly and intentionally. |
Agree with your concerns,this makes it harder for those of us who struggle even with Basic rules,I ask myself how many other occassions has this happened with this photographer and how wide spread is the practice, It just brings the challenges into disripute. Shame on you.
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