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03/28/2010 11:10:51 AM · #51 |
Look at the height of the man compaired to the bicycle. Something is not right here, when compaired to the perspective indicated by the tracks which appear to narrow very little yet seem compressed.
Message edited by author 2010-03-28 11:12:57. |
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03/28/2010 11:51:49 AM · #52 |
It's a speed bump for trains. They have them all over.
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03/28/2010 11:57:47 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
Ok here it is:
Credit is given to "Wide World Photos"
Thoughts? Opinions? |
I notice that the two rows of short posts between the tracks is not warped in this shot.
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03/28/2010 12:12:04 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
Ok here it is:
Credit is given to "Wide World Photos"
Thoughts? Opinions? |
I notice that the two rows of short posts between the tracks is not warped in this shot. |
They could have been placed after the warping... |
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03/28/2010 12:17:22 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If one wants to get all tricky with it, figure out the average distance between two wheels on a bicycle and compare that to the gauge of the rails. The US uses 4'6" gauge, while most of Japan uses 3'6"...
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lol that is too much thinking for me... |
OK, I did it for you. The distance from axle to axle on my bike and my wife's (much shorter than me) is 42" and 40". If we make the assumption this bike is similar, the ratio between her axles and the gauge of the track would give a track gauge of 4'10". Assuming we have some error, this is much, much closer to a US gauge than a Japanese gauge. I would assume this was strong evidence to say the tracks are in the US. |
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03/28/2010 01:27:19 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If one wants to get all tricky with it, figure out the average distance between two wheels on a bicycle and compare that to the gauge of the rails. The US uses 4'6" gauge ... |
For a brief side note: I got this in a "joke" email last year, but seems sensible to me ...
The U.S. Standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England, and the U.S. railroads were built by English expatriates.
Why did the English people build them like that? Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.
Why did ''they'' use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.
Okay! Why did the wagons use that odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing the wagons would break on some of the old, long distance roads, because that's the spacing of the old wheel ruts.
So who built these old rutted roads? The first long distance roads in Europe were built by Imperial Rome for the benefit of their legions. The roads have been used ever since. And the ruts? The initial ruts, which everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagons, were first made by Roman war chariots. Since the chariots were made for or by Imperial Rome they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.
Thus, we have the answer to the original questions. The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the original specification (Military Spec) for an Imperial Roman army war chariot. Military specs and bureaucracies live forever. So, the next time you are handed a specification and wonder what horse's ass came up with it, you may be exactly right. Because the Imperial Roman chariots were made to be just wide enough to accommodate the back-ends of two war horses. |
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03/28/2010 03:41:59 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If one wants to get all tricky with it, figure out the average distance between two wheels on a bicycle and compare that to the gauge of the rails. The US uses 4'6" gauge ... |
For a brief side note: I got this in a "joke" email last year, but seems sensible to me ...
The U.S. Standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England, and the U.S. railroads were built by English expatriates.
Why did the English people build them like that? Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.
Why did ''they'' use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.
Okay! Why did the wagons use that odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing the wagons would break on some of the old, long distance roads, because that's the spacing of the old wheel ruts.
So who built these old rutted roads? The first long distance roads in Europe were built by Imperial Rome for the benefit of their legions. The roads have been used ever since. And the ruts? The initial ruts, which everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagons, were first made by Roman war chariots. Since the chariots were made for or by Imperial Rome they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.
Thus, we have the answer to the original questions. The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the original specification (Military Spec) for an Imperial Roman army war chariot. Military specs and bureaucracies live forever. So, the next time you are handed a specification and wonder what horse's ass came up with it, you may be exactly right. Because the Imperial Roman chariots were made to be just wide enough to accommodate the back-ends of two war horses. |
Wow!!! I think some people just think too much.... I thought it was just because that's what Mom said it was. I'll bet you never left the "why" stage we all go through at about age 3 or 4. And your Mom didn't just answer with "because I said so". lol
And the Dr can never pass up a challenge to figure something out of course.
sheesh..... boys.
Message edited by author 2010-03-28 15:43:30. |
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03/28/2010 07:50:45 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If one wants to get all tricky with it, figure out the average distance between two wheels on a bicycle and compare that to the gauge of the rails. The US uses 4'6" gauge, while most of Japan uses 3'6"...
BAM! |
lol that is too much thinking for me... |
OK, I did it for you. The distance from axle to axle on my bike and my wife's (much shorter than me) is 42" and 40". If we make the assumption this bike is similar, the ratio between her axles and the gauge of the track would give a track gauge of 4'10". Assuming we have some error, this is much, much closer to a US gauge than a Japanese gauge. I would assume this was strong evidence to say the tracks are in the US. |
According to Wikipedia, the Tozai Line (Kobe) uses standard gauge tracks which is about 4' 8.5".
wiki linki |
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03/28/2010 08:12:27 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
According to Wikipedia, the Tozai Line (Kobe) uses standard gauge tracks which is about 4' 8.5". |
OK, I must have missed it in history class -- when did the Roman Empire conquer Japan? ;-) (see my previous post) |
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03/28/2010 08:19:34 PM · #60 |
AFTER Japan conquered Rome.
One wonderful tread - oops, I mean thread. |
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03/29/2010 01:15:37 AM · #61 |
Looking by the guy's feet, you can see that the line is built using something besides standard cross ties with one lug for each of the ties. That would explain why the rails even though bent are still parallel. Unless that guy has very tiny feet, the rails would appear to me to be the 4 ft plus gauge.
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