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Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

03/23/2010 04:44:41 PM · #27

Originally posted by vawendy:

personally, I think we should all go comment on the NC entries.

If you really wanted to be snarky, those would all read "Nice shot."

citymars

Nikon D700

03/23/2010 04:53:25 PM · #28

Mr. Negativity back again, to crap on new ideas! :-D
Seriously, I don't like this idea. I understand the annoyance of taking time to comment on someone's photo when the person apparently doesn't want your comment. But this isn't a good way to fix it. First, just think of all the "what does NC mean" responses photos will get. Second, those ugly codes will be part of your entry title forever. Third, a large number of people probably won't see this thread.

03/23/2010 09:14:48 PM · #29

bump

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/24/2010 01:29:46 AM · #30

So much for that idea.

tehben

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

03/24/2010 02:45:24 AM · #31

I completely forgot....
I think it's a great idea though.

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

03/24/2010 09:17:26 AM · #32

Oh well...

paynekj

Pentax K10D

03/24/2010 03:16:27 PM · #33

I'd be very surprised if anyone marks their entries as not welcoming comments. What's the point in being here otherwise? - Stupid question, it's certainly not to get comments given the decline in comments received. :)

Anyway, it's prompting me to deliberately leave comments on those few entries marked CW, so you've only got yourselves to blame!

Nadine_Vb

Nikon D2X

Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DL Macro for Nikon

03/25/2010 04:14:27 PM · #34

Originally posted by paynekj:

Well Kevin, I must say that the comments that were given in the scope of this test are very helpful.
They are clear on the good, less good or negative points. In other words: they are constructive.
That's what we're after, that's what's needed for those who are here to learn, improve.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

03/25/2010 04:45:23 PM · #35

Good to know that comments are being made. Sounds like some that are actually "helpful". :)

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

03/25/2010 08:05:37 PM · #36

It's been proven time and time again that the little tricks, nudges, groveling, whining, and other forms of requesting comments just do not work. If you want comments, post up your image in a thread or side challenge, talk about your image, and work with the folks who respond to get a take on your image.

You will learn as much, if not more by carefully voting, and commenting on others' images, and you'll make a greater impact all 'round by adding a hundred comments to the mix than begging pathetically for a morsel or two for yours. You'll find that you'll really learn when you vote and comment on challenges that you enter, especially when you see the different interpretations that people have on the same theme that you worked to shoot creatively. There's nothing I like more than to have an image flip up on my screen for voting, and have my initial reaction be, "Oh cool! I never woulda thought of THAT!!!!". I also look very closely at the images that are better than mine and study them to see what it is about them that I like, what seems to work, and to seriously admire someone's stellar offering for the challenge.

This is dp challenge, a digital photography contest, it is not, despite what people want to project, intended to be anything else. It's on you to make the site what it needs to be for you, but then the onus of how you learn from here is on you, if that's what you want from the place.

Personally, I think this place is awesome, and I have learned more than I ever imagined. What I have learned the most is how to extract the value, and education that I need with the tools and resources that are here, without grumbling, or begging, for more than what's offered. There really are no limits to what you can learn here, or through here, even if it's just a good tip on how and where to find something that may not necessarily be available here. I feel almost like I'm stealing when I re-up my membership 'cause for me, this the best $25 a year I could spend.

I'm old enough that I still believe that you can influence your karma......so if you want comments in a challenge, then comment on ALL the entries in that challenge. Maybe, you'll start a trend!......8>)

Message edited by author 2010-03-25 20:07:06.

Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro for Nikon

03/25/2010 09:58:56 PM · #37

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

It's been proven time and time again that the little tricks, nudges, groveling, whining, and other forms of requesting comments just do not work.

You are correct, but my reason is that as a heavy commenter I want my commenting effort to go where it it wanted.

Deen

Nikon D70

03/25/2010 11:06:21 PM · #38

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

If you want comments, post up your image in a thread or side challenge, talk about your image, and work with the folks who respond to get a take on your image.

This is what I did, and I got some constructive feedbacks. It's the best way.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

03/25/2010 11:17:56 PM · #39

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

If you want comments, post up your image in a thread or side challenge, talk about your image, and work with the folks who respond to get a take on your image.

Wouldn't that constitute a "little trick," if not outright groveling and/or whining? (j/k) ;-)

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

This is dp challenge, a digital photography contest, it is not, despite what people want to project, intended to be anything else.

Personally, I think the "contest" aspect is the means, not the end ...

Originally posted by The About Page:

The original idea behind the site was for it to be a place where the two of us and a couple of our friends could teach ourselves to be better photographers by giving each other a 'challenge' for the week.

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

03/26/2010 04:20:47 PM · #40

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

If you want comments, post up your image in a thread or side challenge, talk about your image, and work with the folks who respond to get a take on your image.

And personally I have done these things, however, it seems there are many would be submitters who have decided side challenges are better than the actual main challenges. I am beginning to understand why...there is always commenting and there is always a topic everyone agrees to and uses. No one reads into the topic, so there are no arguments over a point of view and there typically is no prize except for the education and insight of others.

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

You will learn as much, if not more by carefully voting, and commenting on others' images, and you'll make a greater impact all 'round by adding a hundred comments to the mix than begging pathetically for a morsel or two for yours.

Depends on your comment and how it is received. How many commenters have received a nasty email or been thrown into a scoring thread because a submitter couldn't see past the wonderful photo they took? Which reduces the commenter to "nice shot" or "well done" because they are unsure of what may happen next. Which is why I was trying to gain support for this method.

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Personally, I think this place is awesome, and I have learned more than I ever imagined. What I have learned the most is how to extract the value, and education that I need with the tools and resources that are here, without grumbling, or begging, for more than what's offered. There really are no limits to what you can learn here, or through here, even if it's just a good tip on how and where to find something that may not necessarily be available here. I feel almost like I'm stealing when I re-up my membership 'cause for me, this the best $25 a year I could spend.

Agreed

paynekj

Pentax K10D

03/30/2010 03:34:07 PM · #41

My question now has to be to those few who are trying this - do you feel it's working?

03/30/2010 03:44:27 PM · #42

Originally posted by paynekj:

My question now has to be to those few who are trying this - do you feel it's working?

Well, my average shot has had three comments that are actually good and not the "good shot" variety so I think in that way it has gone well for me. Can't say how the others who participated are doing and I'll wait until the voting is over to let everyone know the total count of comments. No one has commented asking about the "CW" either so evidently most knew what it was for. Anyway, thanks for your comment

paynekj!