Canon 7d is in the virtual shopping cart..should I

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

03/17/2010 11:56:49 AM · #1

So currently I am using a Canon 1000d Rebel XS. Great Camera and I enjoy it very much but I feel as though it may be time to move on. Will my image quality improve? I don't know, I know it has more to do with me and less with the camera but I feel as though there will be a bump.

Also I want to really get into sports photography this year, especially baseball and I think the additional fps may help. So is it worth it. I am also doing more and more portraits but I'm not sure there is much with the 7d that will improve that.

What are your honest thoughts, feel free to be as blunt as you want.

PhotoDave

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

03/17/2010 12:03:34 PM · #2

I quite like my 7D :)

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm f/4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

03/17/2010 12:04:28 PM · #3

We like ours, too :-)

03/17/2010 12:04:36 PM · #4

IMO you'd be better off with a Rebel T2i (a new model that borrows heavily from the 7D) and put the savings toward better lenses or lighting.

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

03/17/2010 12:08:40 PM · #5

adding that I could get the 7d with 12 month same as cash financing. And I prefer the build quality as well as the fps of the 7d over the t2i.

Will the 7d help me grow and help me attain higher quality shots then the 1000d or is the 1000d capable of producing very similar quality to that of the 7d?

Message edited by author 2010-03-17 12:12:37.

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm f/4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

03/17/2010 12:13:20 PM · #6

The way it FEELS is a big plus for us; it feels more like a 5D than a Rebel, it has substantiality...

Paul

Leica SL

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

03/17/2010 12:15:23 PM · #7

The one thing I'm really struck by with my 7D is it's focussing system - it blows my 5D MKII out of the water in that regard. Perhaps

scalvert knows whether the T2i (not sure what it is marketed as here - 550??) is up to scratch in that regard.

PhotoDave

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

03/17/2010 12:15:30 PM · #8

A big part of your quality will come from your lenses, I can still get sweet shots off of my XTi that compare to my 40D and 7D with any of my L series lenses... Just sayn ;)

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

03/17/2010 12:26:08 PM · #9

So would I be better off just holding onto the 1000d and saving for something like this? I know the glass will last me a lot longer then any camera body will. It just seems that when I look at the equipment page for the 1000d the images are no where near the quality of the ones on the 50d and 7d pages. I know a lot has to do with the glass and the person behind the camera but I also know that I am able to work more efficiently and produce a better product in cooking if I use better equipment and ingredients.

So how would an identical shot taken with the 1000d with say my canon 100mm f2 usm lens with identical settings and light look when compared to the exact same shot on the 7d.

PhotoDave

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

03/17/2010 12:28:29 PM · #10

You should do what I did, rent the body(s) and or lens(s) you are looking to buy. its a small price to pay but could save you a LOT in the long run.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm f/4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

03/17/2010 12:30:01 PM · #11

28-300mm is way too big of a zoom factor for optimum quality. Rule of thumb says "no more than 3X", and that's 10X.

R.

03/17/2010 12:30:50 PM · #12

Originally posted by jminso:

Will the 7d help me grow and help me attain higher quality shots then the 1000d or is the 1000d capable of producing very similar quality to that of the 7d?

Yes to both questions. The 7D is vastly more sophisticated than the XS, so it would allow more flexibility and power. However, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between typical photos from either camera. That's why I suggested the T2i- you get most of the benefits of the 7D (including the new AF system) at half the price, and you could put the rest toward an L lens or fast zoom which could make a bigger difference in terms of IQ.

03/17/2010 12:32:28 PM · #13

Originally posted by jminso:

So how would an identical shot taken with the 1000d with say my canon 100mm f2 usm lens with identical settings and light look when compared to the exact same shot on the 7d.

About the same. See for yourself.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

03/17/2010 12:36:07 PM · #14

I appreciate all of these replies. I have been keeping my eye on the 7d for some time now and I defintely want one. The 12 month same as cash financing has sent me into a frenzy and is making it difficult to not jump on the deal. I am pretty happy with most of the glass I have now, with the exception of the not so good 75-300mm canon lens.

Such a difficult decission because I know I can take amazing photos with the rebel xs and I know that I have not reached the full potential with that camera. I think that perhaps I should let this deal pass away and just keep working with the rebel xs despite my urge to submit the order for the 7d.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

03/17/2010 12:39:23 PM · #15

I think you are making the right decision, and you have identified by far the weakest link in your arsenal, that being the 75-300. Take the cash you'd spend on the body and put it toward a better long zoom. Choose carefully. I'd suggest the 70-200 f/4 as the "gold standard."

03/17/2010 12:39:37 PM · #16

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by jminso:
So how would an identical shot taken with the 1000d with say my canon 100mm f2 usm lens with identical settings and light look when compared to the exact same shot on the 7d.

About the same. See for yourself.

Thank you for that link. That is quite useful.

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

03/17/2010 12:42:53 PM · #17

Originally posted by kirbic:

I'd suggest the 70-200 f/4 as the "gold standard."

Agreed, although the newer 70-300 IS and recently announced Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 OS would also be great choices.

GinaRothfels

Olympus 8mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko Digital ED Fisheye PRO Lens

03/17/2010 12:48:18 PM · #18

Originally posted by scalvert:

IMO you'd be better off with a Rebel T2i (a new model that borrows heavily from the 7D) and put the savings toward better lenses or lighting.

I'm interested by this comment because from what I've read I assumed that the 7D would have a better focusing system, as well as the ability to adjust focusing for different lenses. I've never been convinced that the focusing on my camera is up to scratch and have been seriously considering upgrading to a 7D. However the 550D (T2i ?) has some improvements over the 7D (particularly in exposure compensation) and the size would be much better for my small hands.

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

03/17/2010 12:59:48 PM · #19

Originally posted by GinaRothfels:

However the 550D (T2i ?) has some improvements over the 7D (particularly in exposure compensation)...

New features.

GinaRothfels

Olympus 8mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko Digital ED Fisheye PRO Lens

03/17/2010 01:51:39 PM · #20

The new features are great, but I'm concerned about its focusing ability. I'm almost tempted to wait for the next upgrade on the 7D. However the smaller size of the 550D is a great temptation to me.

one2one

Olympus E-5

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

03/17/2010 03:08:33 PM · #21

Originally posted by jminso:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by jminso:
So how would an identical shot taken with the 1000d with say my canon 100mm f2 usm lens with identical settings and light look when compared to the exact same shot on the 7d.

About the same. See for yourself.

Thank you for that link. That is quite useful.

I just compared my E3 to the 7D and I was not impressed with the 7D at all for image clarity. Even at ISO 800 the E3 seems to have an edge. This totally mystifies me. I thought the 7D was light years ahead in image quality but I was wrong. My itch to go Canon has now been put to rest, according to that site.

Now to compare the D700 to my E3....

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

03/17/2010 05:21:26 PM · #22

Originally posted by Jac:

The 7D has a very high density sensor. There is always a give-back, either higher noise, or lost detail. The best results will always be obtained by shooting RAW and doing noise reduction during conversion.
The 7D still has far less noise than the E3, all the way to ISO 3200. Compare this page with this one. As far as clarity, with good glass, the per-pixel sharpness of the two cameras will be similar.

zxaar

03/17/2010 06:34:18 PM · #23

Originally posted by jminso:

What are your honest thoughts, feel free to be as blunt as you want.

honestly 7d is very good buy. go for it if you can.

zxaar

03/17/2010 06:35:53 PM · #24

Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by jminso:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by jminso:
So how would an identical shot taken with the 1000d with say my canon 100mm f2 usm lens with identical settings and light look when compared to the exact same shot on the 7d.

About the same. See for yourself.

Thank you for that link. That is quite useful.

I just compared my E3 to the 7D and I was not impressed with the 7D at all for image clarity. Even at ISO 800 the E3 seems to have an edge. This totally mystifies me. I thought the 7D was light years ahead in image quality but I was wrong. My itch to go Canon has now been put to rest, according to that site.

Now to compare the D700 to my E3....

there is some mistake if you mean 'clarity' as in noise.
canon 7d is one of the top performer as far as noise is concerned.

robs

Canon EOS R6 Mk II