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 02/12/2010 11:13:06 AM · #1
Looks like I'm going to need to replace my Manfrotto 804RC2 head that I've used the past 3 years (see problems with contacting Manfrotto here).

This is the 804RC2 -->

I like the 3-way tilt/pan and large grips, and I need QR plates. Any suggestions?
 02/12/2010 11:18:00 AM · #2
Oh, yeah...something under $100? I also just remembered; I'm using a Manfrotto ballhead on my monopod that uses the same QR plate, which I did on purpose because I always keep the QR plate attached to the camera and extras on my two larger lens that have a tripod collar. :-(
 02/12/2010 11:57:08 AM · #3
After looking around it seems that $100 may not get what I need...under $150 will offer more I think. ???

Anyone use a Benro tripod head?
 02/12/2010 01:56:08 PM · #4
i use a 3030 head currently and hate how far the handles stick out. this will be my next head as i am a pan-tilt guy as well

//www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/553704-REG/Manfrotto_by_Bogen_Imaging_460MG_460MG_3D_Magnesium_Head.html#reviews

:):) ive never used it but the reviews are good and it looks both supportive, functional, and compact.

-Max
02/12/2010 02:12:18 PM · #5
The Manfrotto 808RC4 is what I use, and it's terrific. Uses the larger RC4 plate and has a much more secure, and adjustable, locking mechanism. It's actual metal construction instead of the technical polymer of the one you have. I've never had any problem with Manfrotto support, but I haven't had to use it for many years so...

R.

The 460Mg suggested by Michael down there is only rated for 6.6 lbs, which is marginal for a dSLR with a big lens, and uses the RC2 plate, which in my opinion is inadequate for heavier dSLR models, though just fine for lighter rigs.

Message edited by author 2010-02-12 14:14:35.
 02/12/2010 02:32:06 PM · #6
I own the one shown. It is fantastic. The quick coupler is very easy to use. My only complaint is framing in the vertical. The coupler needs to be re oriented.
 02/12/2010 03:00:15 PM · #7
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
... The 460Mg suggested by Michael down there is only rated for 6.6 lbs, which is marginal for a dSLR with a big lens, and uses the RC2 plate, which in my opinion is inadequate for heavier dSLR models, though just fine for lighter rigs.

Yep, I looked at that one also, but I think it's too light for what I'd put on it - plus it's a Manfrotto. :-)

Another one I'm seriously considering is the Giottos MH-5001. It supports 13 lbs and the QR plates are reasonably priced (I'll want a couple extras).
 02/12/2010 06:44:39 PM · #8
I use the 808 RC4 also. I love it, apart from it is bit of a pig to carry around. But the stability it offers makes it worth the sore shoulder I get from carrying it around. As far as Pan and Tilt heads go. This one is the best on the market in the price range you want.
 02/12/2010 08:14:00 PM · #9
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
I use the 808 RC4 also. I love it, apart from it is bit of a pig to carry around. But the stability it offers makes it worth the sore shoulder I get from carrying it around. As far as Pan and Tilt heads go. This one is the best on the market in the price range you want.

How long have you owned yours? I'm a little nervous about getting something by Manfrotto that is very similar in design. The 808RC4 is about twice as heavy as the 804RC2 coming in at 3 lbs vs 1.7!

The frustrating thing is after studying what's failing on the 804RC2 I can tell it's the spring under the lever. Probably a 5 cent piece of metal. :-/ See part #804,05 on the parts detail.
 02/12/2010 08:53:41 PM · #10
That part number shows just a little coil spring. Any good hardware store would have a selection of coil springs of all different diameters and strengths, though they would be longer. It would be easy to cut one off to the right length with a Dremel tool, or a small grinder. You can cut a spring with a good pair of wire cutters, but it will probably nick the cutters. If you don't have that kind of talent, you probably know someone who is handy with tools that can do it for you.
02/12/2010 10:03:03 PM · #11
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
That part number shows just a little coil spring. Any good hardware store would have a selection of coil springs of all different diameters and strengths, though they would be longer. It would be easy to cut one off to the right length with a Dremel tool, or a small grinder. You can cut a spring with a good pair of wire cutters, but it will probably nick the cutters. If you don't have that kind of talent, you probably know someone who is handy with tools that can do it for you.

I agree and I'm in the process of doing so at the moment, although the allen wrench I need is in the woodshop, which involves going out in the dark and cold to get it...it can wait until daylight in the morning. :-)
 02/13/2010 05:30:36 PM · #12
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
That part number shows just a little coil spring. Any good hardware store would have a selection of coil springs of all different diameters and strengths, though they would be longer. It would be easy to cut one off to the right length with a Dremel tool, or a small grinder. You can cut a spring with a good pair of wire cutters, but it will probably nick the cutters. If you don't have that kind of talent, you probably know someone who is handy with tools that can do it for you.

I agree and I'm in the process of doing so at the moment, although the allen wrench I need is in the woodshop, which involves going out in the dark and cold to get it...it can wait until daylight in the morning. :-)

Yep, that worked out just fine. Actually, once I freed the spring I was able to adjust it (stretch it back out a little) and now the QR plate fits as firmly as when the tripod head was new. :-)
 02/13/2010 05:34:57 PM · #13
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
The Manfrotto 808RC4 is what I use, and it's terrific. Uses the larger RC4 plate and has a much more secure, and adjustable, locking mechanism. It's actual metal construction instead of the technical polymer of the one you have. I've never had any problem with Manfrotto support, but I haven't had to use it for many years so...

R.

The 460Mg suggested by Michael down there is only rated for 6.6 lbs, which is marginal for a dSLR with a big lens, and uses the RC2 plate, which in my opinion is inadequate for heavier dSLR models, though just fine for lighter rigs.


That's the one I use. The max load I put on it is a 40D with the 100-400 lens attached. No issues. As far as framing vertical shots, I loosen the tripod collar and rotate the camera for those when using the 100-400.
 03/31/2010 03:58:12 PM · #14
I just recently purchased a Manfrotto gear head (410 if I remember right) that I absolutely love. Not sure what the weight limit on it is, but it is very solid and has unbelievable control. I found a recommendation on it at //www.sprintingturtles.info/Equipment.htm. It is so nice to be able to precisely dial in a shot, definitely worth checking out for someone in the market for a new tripod head.
 03/31/2010 04:04:54 PM · #15
Oh, I'd LOVE to have that gearhead, but couldn't justify the cost. I used a big Majestic tripod with a gearhead for my Sinar view camera back in the day, and it was awesome...

R.

Message edited by author 2010-03-31 16:05:14.
 04/02/2010 12:13:45 PM · #16
They are a bit spendy and I had a tough time justifying the cost with the wife, but they seem really well built and I think it will last me a long time. I don't think I could go back to a different head now that I am used to this one. I don't shoot sports or much action stuff so no real need for panning.
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