Asked to delete photos... - DPChallenge Forums

01/31/2010 07:04:46 PM · #1

I post a lot of my photos on Facebook. I do this because a lot of the people I take photos of are also on Facebook and may want to see them. I also have had the two local newspapers ask for copies of photos I've posted.

Within the last week I've had two people ask me to delete photos that included their kids. Even those photos taken in public places with a group of people in a posed shot, that those very same photos were already printed in the local newspaper.

While I have currently deleted those photos from my Facebook account...it really has started to irritate me to no end that these people expected me to delete photos where there are 15-20 people posing and they have one kid hamming it up for the camera with the rest of them.

Why should I placate these people?

I'm trying to be nice, but the more I think about it the harder it is. I'd love to keep the group photos up and tell them to jump off a bridge, but I just can't (for now). Since I've already deleted them from my Facebook account I'd have to go back into my archives and reedit the photos blurring out the individual kids. Which in my opinion just draws that much more attention to the fact that the kid is/was in the photo to begin with.

Why am I venting this on here? Mainly because I figure there has to be more people experiencing the same thing. For another...I just want to vent, and I know that the people that complained about my facebook photos aren't on this site to see me complain (even though I did complain on my facebook page too). They also aren't my friends on facebook

What I ultimately did was delete the photos in question and changed all my settings so that only "FRIENDS" can see anything on my page.

Some of the photos in question I've recently burned to a bunch of CD's so that the parents can have pics of their kids playing soccer. Now I'm tempted not to give them out to the parents that complained. They all saw me standing there taking photos, if they don't want pics of their kids taken...don't bring them to a public venue where people ARE GOING TO TAKE PICS!!!

*sigh*
*gggggrrrrrrrrrr*

I'm done.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

01/31/2010 07:05:41 PM · #2

Sorry for rambling.

shamrock

Nikon D300

01/31/2010 07:12:43 PM · #3

i agree it's annoying. I can't help but feel that you should go with the wishes of the parents, though. I won't even post photos of my nieces or grandkids, for fear their parents will get upset.

Phil

Canon EOS-7D

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Canon

01/31/2010 07:17:57 PM · #4

Just black their eyes out Dirty Deeds style.

littlegett

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

01/31/2010 07:24:23 PM · #5

Originally posted by NathanW:

Some of the photos in question I've recently burned to a bunch of CD's so that the parents can have pics of their kids playing soccer. Now I'm tempted not to give them out to the parents that complained. They all saw me standing there taking photos, if they don't want pics of their kids taken...don't bring them to a public venue where people ARE GOING TO TAKE PICS!!!

Agree, there is no reason for you to waste your time/effort and resources on people who will not appreciate it. Also, I find it strange they did not say anything to you at the time of the event... which is what happens to me... constantly.

If it was a public event, and the images are photo-journalistic in nature there is no reason whatsoever for you to remove them or even edit them. It comes down to your personal ethics and stuff. But as they say... one bad apple....

It is really depressing that so many people are so closed minded and ignorant and self-centered anymore in today's society. Destroying each other seems to be the only thing people know.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

01/31/2010 07:32:19 PM · #6

What's weird for me is that usually I never have this problem. Generally, everyone asks for copies of the photos.

This is the first time I've had people tell me they didn't want photos of their kids. *shrug* I guess it's frustrating that it happened twice in one week.

Heck, I've had people I've never met before ask me to send them photos and will give me their e-mail addresses.

Dr.Confuser

Nikon D800

01/31/2010 08:24:28 PM · #7

Isn't that what "un-friending" is all about???

Alicia

Canon EOS-600D/T3i Rebel

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM II

01/31/2010 08:47:08 PM · #8

I don't even see why someone would ask to have photos containing their kids deleted. Unless it's a photo of a single kid with name and address underneath, there's really no reason to get in a wad about it. I feel you went above and beyond by deleting the images on your FB account. Everything else should not be of concern to you. Get a copy of Photographer's Rights and you'll see that you have done nothing wrong.

citymars

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

01/31/2010 08:51:52 PM · #9

In the great mass of ill-defined fears that roil around us, "protecting the children" trumps all -- even if the protection is against some none-existent bogeyman. Oh, no, someone might see my child on the internet!

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

01/31/2010 09:07:21 PM · #10

Dr.Confuser...The strange thing is I wasn't/aren't friends with the parents.

redjulep...The only time I ever put a name with a kid is if I was tagging the child so that they'd know I posted a pic of them. I actually carry a copy of the Photographer's Rights with me (I used to carry two, but I gave one away to someone for their own reference).

citymars...I just don't get it either; in this day and age, why people have some of the fears they have. If my daughter actually liked having her picture taken she'd be posted all over the internet.

I understand why someone may be paranoid, but we can't live our lives afraid of everything. Why teach our kids to be afraid? What am I supposed to do next year when my daughter is on a sports team with this child again and I go to take a photo of the team with their trophy...tell the kid she can't be in the photo with the rest of the team?

"Sorry, XYZ, you can't be in this picture because your mother is a paranoid person and I plan on posting this on facebook showing how proud I am of my daughter and her team. So, as far as she's concerned you don't exist...And when I send this to the newspaper (which I always do when they get trophies) I can't have you in there either."

That's just mean and rude. The same thing goes for once the picture is taken Photoshopping her out of the picture.
Edit: misspelling

Message edited by author 2010-01-31 21:08:04.

MelonMusketeer

Nikon D7000

Nikon MF 50mm f/1.4

01/31/2010 09:35:26 PM · #11

Make a little "Parents Objected to This Picture" stamp, with a dark BG, and put it over the faces of the ones who can't appear in your pix when you post them.
Parentanoids Grrr.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

01/31/2010 09:56:40 PM · #12

Originally posted by NathanW:

What am I supposed to do next year when my daughter is on a sports team with this child again and I go to take a photo of the team with their trophy...tell the kid she can't be in the photo with the rest of the team?

"Sorry, XYZ, you can't be in this picture because your mother is a paranoid person and I plan on posting this on facebook showing how proud I am of my daughter and her team. So, as far as she's concerned you don't exist...And when I send this to the newspaper (which I always do when they get trophies) I can't have you in there either."

My first thought was to just Photoshop black bars* over their eyes, as was previously suggested, but perhaps you can save yourself some post-processing work by carrying several of these with your camera gear for the kids desiring anonymity to wear ...

*or an Alfred E. Neuman ("What, Me Worry?") "mask" ... ;-)

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

01/31/2010 10:25:09 PM · #13

I used to shoot all of the events at my church as they wanted the pictures for this newletter, that brochure, the other event flyer. Then it started......first it was, "Well, you can't shoot Justine & John 'cause their parents don't want their kids to show up on the 'Net.", then it was, "You can see that Olivia is wearing her nametag.", and when I said that you'd need really expensive image-enhancing software to possibly be able to read it, the minister said, "What makes you think that perverts wouldn't have the money or access to that kind of software and computer technology?".

Then one morning when I was messing around with some of the kids, I got a particularly funny, yet screwball face from one of the girls, and she said "Oh yuck! Delete that!", I said "No way, that'un's going in the newsletter for sure!", then her father bellowed across the lawn outside the church where we were all gathered, "My daughter said delete the picture, delete it NOW!!!!". It threw a real damper on the whole occasion, and I stopped taking pictures for the church.

Thing is, I'm not interested in upsetting anyone, so yeah......I'll put up with the shit, and honor people's wishes, but I'm starting to get a lot more selective about who, what, when, and where I shoot people any more these days. Yeah, when everyone's outside, and we're all having fun in a public place there's not a d@mn thing anyone can do legally, but I'm not looking to alienate people either.

But there are also a few people I wouldn't let hire me for all the money in the world. It's kind of funny, but you sure get an idea about how important some people think they are in the world when truth be told, nobody gives a rat's @ss about them or their kids.

Message edited by author 2010-01-31 22:26:09.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

01/31/2010 10:31:36 PM · #14

Someone who doesn't want their kids picture in the paper or on the internet has no business letting their kids play sports. Simple as that. I'm pretty sure when my daughter played it was written into the permission slip that there would be pictures that would be posted in one place or the other. The only option you had was whether only a first name or first & last name showed up in the caption.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

02/01/2010 06:32:39 PM · #15

Originally posted by Kelli:

I missed that about it being sports.

Tell 'em to go pound sand......they know better.

There is *NO* excuse for that kind of behavior from parents of kids who play sports. Both schools will have someone there if it's a school thing, and most rec soccer clubs have "Official" photography as well, and there *WILL* be other parents and friends there shooting whether they like it or not.

It's not really a choice to try to opt out your kid because he/she is part of the program, and I'm *quite* sure there were team photos as well. And most schools & clubs will have the images on the web somewhere.

I've actually been waiting for someone from my kid's school to give me a hard time about it, 'cause the first time someone says anything to me about shooting sports, I'll tell 'em I'll stop when they do.......8>)

ETA: One of the last field hockey games my daughter played in something must have gone wrong with scheduling or something; I got a call from the coach 'cause she needed an image for the local paper as they had nobody there either.

I furnished an image......it wasn't my daughter.....they were grateful.

Message edited by author 2010-02-01 18:35:33.

Apple iPhone 5

02/01/2010 07:42:39 PM · #16

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Then one morning when I was messing around with some of the kids, I got a particularly funny, yet screwball face from one of the girls, and she said "Oh yuck! Delete that!", I said "No way, that'un's going in the newsletter for sure!", then her father bellowed across the lawn outside the church where we were all gathered, "My daughter said delete the picture, delete it NOW!!!!".

Maybe he thought the camera was stealing her soul?

Fisher Price Kid-Tough Digital

02/01/2010 07:50:46 PM · #17

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by JH:

Maybe he thought the camera was stealing her soul?

The really peculiar part about it was that I know the family well, and have taken pictures of all of them, singly, and together before.

It's really strange out there these days......you never know who's going to get nbent out of shape over what.

I really genuinely try to respect people's feelings, but some of them really stick in my craw.

I raised my camera to shoot someone I was with down on the Boardwalk in Atlantic City last Labor Day, and some street person just happened to walk behind the person I was shooting. He looked up and saw the camera pointed "at him" and promptly flipped out on me. I pretty much told him to take a hike as it was.....

A. A public place.
B. I wasn't taking a picture of HIM.
C. I couldn't help it that he couldn't be bothered to notice me holding up a D200 & 18-200mm lens until he walked right smack in front of the shot.

He wandered off muttering under his breath.

Bugzeye

02/01/2010 08:03:33 PM · #18

one of the things I really like about living here in New Zealand is no one really pays any attention to photographers, There are so many tourist roaming about with their canons and nikons strapped over their shoulder that it is almost a fashion accessorie. nobody even notices. however that being said. the locals here are not very bothered about walking in front of you while you are taking a picture either, which at times can be annoying, I have alot of photos of strangers getting in my way. lol

02/01/2010 08:16:33 PM · #19

The funny thing about school pictures....I've never had an issue with ANYONE at the school . I take photo's of anything and everything at my daughter's school, and even for the school district I drive for (I'm a school bus driver). Everyone at the school seems to be ecstatic when I show up with my camera.

It kind of takes the fun out of photography when people get bent out of shape. And yes...the sports contract with the local rec department did have a clause in there about photography, and their kids picture was going to get taken and possibly placed in the newspaper or on the internet. Just not necessarily by me personally.

*Sigh* Just wait until these same people ask me to take their photographs. Not gonna happen. Like Jeb said...Not gonna do it for all the money in the world.

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D

02/02/2010 06:40:28 PM · #20

OM freaking GAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Today I was emailed by the lead person for the local Parent Advisory Team for my daughters school. This is the person that asked me to take photos at two fund raisers for a new playground for the school. She then wanted me to upload those same photos to Kaboom.org so that we could show that we're trying to raise money (in the hopes of getting even more money).

Today she emailed me and asked me to take down the photos because she didn't think we had "Permission" to post photos of other peoples kids. Now remember these are fundraisers for the local PUBLIC school, taken AT THE SCHOOL. With me being completely out in the open taking pictures of people out in the open. Most of these people are posing for the shots.

Now I'm supposed to take them down?!?!?! Someone in this area is on a rampage about photos. I'd love to find out who and tell them to chill out!!! Well, I know who one person is, but there has to be more than just one person doing this (I hope).

Give me a freaking break!!!

Louis

Nikon D800

02/02/2010 06:57:29 PM · #21

The whole thing stinks. Just what do these parents think is going to happen to their little darlings? Stupid.

02/02/2010 07:04:45 PM · #22

Originally posted by NathanW:

Today she emailed me and asked me to take down the photos because she didn't think we had "Permission" to post photos of other peoples kids. Now remember these are fundraisers for the local PUBLIC school, taken AT THE SCHOOL. With me being completely out in the open taking pictures of people out in the open. Most of these people are posing for the shots.

Ask her if she's sure that's what she wants, because if this is the way it's going to go, you will decline *any* future request to do anything for them without a clearly stated contract and the accompanying fees.

Tell her it's one way or the other, but if she isn't going to have the backbone to tell this other person to go fly a kite, why should you have to waste your time for them?

You might remind her that *ALL* the parents were required to sign off on photo rights as part of the team membership.

As it is, I think I'd tell 'em to go pound sand in the future without explicit details in writing.

ETA: Remind her that this was an open event, and that if you feel like it, you can post the images up on any website anywhere and there's not a d@mn thing they can do about it. ESPECIALLY since they already appeared in the newspaper.

Message edited by author 2010-02-02 19:08:10.

zxaar

02/02/2010 08:46:30 PM · #23

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

ETA: Remind her that this was an open event, and that if you feel like it, you can post the images up on any website anywhere and there's not a d@mn thing they can do about it. ESPECIALLY since they already appeared in the newspaper.

rather than telling this, it would be better to send her a pointer or link to photogs right showing that since it was an open image there is nothing she could do about it. And asking to delete photo is very much out of line.