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01/29/2010 10:07:33 AM · #1 |
My favourite photograph of the 2009 challenge was  Iraklis' 'Portrait of a man' 
Reading through the comments i found there were many either for or against the out of focus. Both views are valid personal preferences of course but i was amused ten minutes later when reading up about the photography of Julia Margaret Cameron and Lewis Carroll and came across this quote of Carrolls from 1864...
In the evening Mrs. Cameron and I had a mutual exhibition of photographs. Hers are all taken purposefully out of focus -- some are very picturesque -- some merely hideous. However she talks of them all as if they were triumphs in art. She wished she could have some of my subjects to take out of focus -- and I expressed an analogous wish with regard to some of her subjects.
An old debate indeed!! :
Lewis Carroll 1832 ΓΆ€“ 1898
Julia Margaret Cameron 1815 ΓΆ€“ 1879
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01/29/2010 10:35:54 AM · #2 |
| Why do we need to debate this? Not being cranky, but can't some people just like blur and others not like it without each side trying to convince the other they are wrong? |
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01/29/2010 10:42:03 AM · #3 |
Oops, I missed the boat on what Clive was saying. But I get it now.
Message edited by author 2010-01-29 12:56:52. |
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01/29/2010 10:46:47 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Why do we need to debate this? Not being cranky, but can't some people just like blur and others not like it without each side trying to convince the other they are wrong? |
You might like to read my opening post again more carefully Karen. |
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01/29/2010 10:47:36 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Why do we need to debate this? Not being cranky, but can't some people just like blur and others not like it without each side trying to convince the other they are wrong? |
You might like to read my opening post again more carefully Karen. |
Yes, you're right, sorry! |
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01/29/2010 10:51:35 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Why do we need to debate this? Not being cranky, but can't some people just like blur and others not like it without each side trying to convince the other they are wrong? |
You might like to read my opening post again more carefully Karen. |
Yes, you're right, sorry! |
Ha, thats ok. I'm in no way interested in a debate over it. Just pointing out that that i found it funny to find the same old ideas 140 years ago. (possibly more humorous to me, admittedly, as i came across the quote straight after reading the comments on the photo) |
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01/29/2010 11:31:30 AM · #7 |
Somehow, I get this mental picture of cave men going to battle over their cave wall paintings LOL.
I like photos both ways. It depends on the subject in the image for me. It's just another creative tool, like aperture or shutter speed.
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01/29/2010 11:34:08 AM · #8 |
| It's fascinating when celebrated artists of any era have such differing views. Funny quote from Carroll, thanks for sharing it. |
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01/29/2010 12:49:52 PM · #9 |
| I love the quote Clive. It's funny though, how not much really changes does it? |
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01/29/2010 12:54:49 PM · #10 |
I have to honestly say that my view is changing concerning these types of images. I'm starting to like them and see more than a blur or a blurry photograph. They're moving me more than before because I'm taking the time to view them accordingly. This shot by pawdrix is what I'm talking about. I've been thinking about some shots I would like to try but have almost no idea how to go about it to attain what I see in my head. Keep it up Clive and all the others who appreciate this photography and thanks for the motivation.
Didn't know Carroll was also a photographer.
Message edited by author 2010-01-29 12:56:45. |
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01/29/2010 01:30:20 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Didn't know Carroll was also a photographer. |
Yes, he was an early enthusiast and would mainly take photographs of friends and their children. The one i posted above is a portrait from 1858 of Alice Liddell, one of his favourite subjects, and it was Alice who begged Carroll to write down some of the stories he made up for her and her siblings. He finally gave her a hand written and hand drawn book called 'Alice's Adventures Under Ground '. So thats a portrait of the original 'Alice'.
As that quote implies, Carroll and Cameron would 'swop' models and subjects over the years and Cameron also took some of Alice Liddell years later. Heres one of Alice as an adult by Cameron...
Message edited by author 2010-01-29 13:32:59. |
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01/29/2010 01:57:23 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by Jac:
Didn't know Carroll was also a photographer. |
Yes, he was an early enthusiast and would mainly take photographs of friends and their children. The one i posted above is a portrait from 1858 of Alice Liddell, one of his favourite subjects, and it was Alice who begged Carroll to write down some of the stories he made up for her and her siblings. He finally gave her a hand written and hand drawn book called 'Alice's Adventures Under Ground '. So thats a portrait of the original 'Alice'.
As that quote implies, Carroll and Cameron would 'swop' models and subjects over the years and Cameron also took some of Alice Liddell years later. Heres one of Alice as an adult by Cameron...
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That's an interesting bit of info Clive, thanks. Cool to see the real Alice as he saw her, can't wait for the Tim Burton film version coming out soon. I've been reading some articles on Wiki about Carroll, he was quite the person. A mathematician, an inventor with many useful inventions back in his days. Like this one; Another invention is a writing tablet called the Nyctograph for use at night that allowed for note-taking in the dark; thus eliminating the trouble of getting out of bed and striking a light when one wakes with an idea. The device consisted of a gridded card with sixteen squares and system of symbols representing an alphabet of Dodgson's design. I need one of these. lol
Thanks for posting this.
Message edited by author 2010-01-29 13:58:19. |
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