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01/17/2010 06:21:22 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by coryboehne:
I'm freaking awesome no matter what label you want to apply...) :) |
And sooooooooooooooooo modest, too!.......8>)
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01/17/2010 06:35:14 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Skip:
you have the OP who starts a handful of threads just to start discussions that might be interesting, but gets called out for having no other participation in the site other than to try to start discussions... |
I think this might be down to me not being that familiar with DPC forum etiquette. On other web forums i frequent it's considered rude and bad web etiquette to post single line opening threads and never engage with the people that make the effort to reply and answer the questions. I guess that may be quite different here so i do apologise to the original poster for my comments back there.
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01/17/2010 06:38:34 PM · #28 |
To me if you're starting a thread with a question you have some interest in the answers. By not responding you are indicating that you have absolutely no interest in the responses. Even in regular conversations when you ask a question and get a response there is some sort of acknowledgement.
However, the OP may not agree with any of what has been posted and may not feel comfortable responding. |
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01/17/2010 07:35:23 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
To me if you're starting a thread with a question you have some interest in the answers. By not responding you are indicating that you have absolutely no interest in the responses. Even in regular conversations when you ask a question and get a response there is some sort of acknowledgement. |
What she said.
Message edited by author 2010-01-17 19:55:31. |
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06/05/2010 08:17:18 AM · #30 |
Hi,
I think you can make money at just about any type of photography, so the idea is to do what you love (I'm sure you've heard that before). I only work with families and children for wedding photography and my average sale is hitting at about $750 - $1000 per shoot.
Message edited by author 2010-06-05 08:25:36.
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06/05/2010 12:03:28 PM · #31 |
Of Love and Money
Pros do it for the money, amateurs for the love of it. Pros create products which they need to sell. Amateurs create affections to move, educate or stimulate us, and they do this free of charge and without an economic motive. Hobbyists do more or less the same but without the existential seriousness and degree of involvement of the amateur.
A professional has a competitive advantage in certain genres (stock photography, weddings, product photography etc.), many of which remain popular despite the abuse these may expose, the distribution they attract or the purpose they serve. He has the advantage, because his skill consists of giving his clients what they want, when they want it. He is, unsurprisingly, at a disadvantage in a context of art which involves his heart and mind, because these tend to be the first to become corrupted by the the shift of emphasis on the creative aspect of the work to one on the mercantile benefits.
The hobbyist, by comparison, dabbles and has no more than luck or serendipity on his side. No equipment can make up for his comparative lack of true commitment and dedicated immersion in the medium. At best, he will create good work without much bite, but likely also works without the defect of gravity, which can be found in the output of artists who have lost their muse.
The serious or "curious" amateur is the only one we can rely on to give us what we need, if we're intent to live consciously and with gusto in a world afflicted with professionals and trifling hobbyists. His works as much as his vantage represent our collective conscience. He is, of course, nothing less than an "artist", but sans the conceit and envy frequently inferred in the term.
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06/05/2010 12:17:43 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Of Love and Money
Pros do it for the money, amateurs for the love of it. Pros create products which they need to sell. Amateurs create affections to move, educate or stimulate us, and they do this free of charge and without an economic motive. Hobbyists do more or less the same but without the existential seriousness and degree of involvement of the amateur.
A professional has a competitive advantage in certain genres (stock photography, weddings, product photography etc.), many of which remain popular despite the abuse these may expose, the distribution they attract or the purpose they serve. He has the advantage, because his skill consists of giving his clients what they want, when they want it. He is, unsurprisingly, at a disadvantage in a context of art which involves his heart and mind, because these tend to be the first to become corrupted by the the shift of emphasis on the creative aspect of the work to one on the mercantile benefits.
The hobbyist, by comparison, dabbles and has no more than luck or serendipity on his side. No equipment can make up for his comparative lack of true commitment and dedicated immersion in the medium. At best, he will create good work without much bite, but likely also works without the defect of gravity, which can be found in the output of artists who have lost their muse.
The serious or "curious" amateur is the only one we can rely on to give us what we need, if we're intent to live consciously and with gusto in a world afflicted with professionals and trifling hobbyists. His works as much as his vantage represent our collective conscience. He is, of course, nothing less than an "artist", but sans the conceit and envy frequently inferred in the term.
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Quite well said ZZ... Is this yours? |
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06/05/2010 12:21:00 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by coryboehne:
... Is this yours? |
Yes, I dusted it off, coz it seemed to fit here. |
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06/05/2010 12:23:49 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by coryboehne:
... Is this yours? |
Yes, I dusted it off, coz it seemed to fit here. |
Very nicely written... Thanks for sharing.
Message edited by author 2010-06-05 12:24:15. |
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06/05/2010 12:27:52 PM · #35 |
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