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01/02/2010 05:15:31 PM · #76 |
Originally posted by Zigomar:
Calling bunch of kids doing donuts vandals is a bit too much in my opinion. |
Why? The modern definition of "vandal" is someone who willfully destroys or defaces property. And that's what they are doing.
R. |
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01/02/2010 05:25:29 PM · #77 |
Since I'm young and I've nothing much to do I'm sure they won't mind if I have a party, have everyone participate in breaking all the leftover bottles and spread em all over the ground. fun.
Honestly, when I read this I thought there should be a concern that the car might be stolen, I don't know many people who would go crazy on their own car especially ones they've bought themselves but then when they're stoned it's a different story so I guess that theory doesn't hold much weight. I don't think anybody's stupid enough to joy ride on a stolen car with out changing license plates.
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01/02/2010 05:28:04 PM · #78 |
Without going back through the whole thread I think the cars occupants were out at approximately 3 am. If a parent is not aware that these children are out at this time I might be leaning towards these folks being a bit older, ie. 18 to 22, where they do not have the parental control for that period of time. If they are that young it needs to be brought to the attention of the parents so they may apply appropriate punishment if they care.
I would say they need to have a wake up call.
Message edited by author 2010-01-02 17:29:17. |
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01/02/2010 05:34:38 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Zigomar:
Calling bunch of kids doing donuts vandals is a bit too much in my opinion. |
Why? The modern definition of "vandal" is someone who willfully destroys or defaces property. And that's what they are doing.
R. |
Because life is not a definition. People go through phases and one of them is being 'wild' and 'rebelious' (yes, I'm being sarcastic because I know there's nothing wild or rebelious in skidding the car on an empty land at 3 a.m.) I remember when I was a kid, we use to sneak in our neighbours yard to eat (or steal by the modern definition) cherries off his tree. He used to chase us and throw things at us, which only made us more interested in coming back. Should I mention he never picked the tree and had always let it rot? I didn't consider myself a vandal, although in his eyes we were probably hard-core criminals. |
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01/02/2010 05:42:53 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by CrazyDiamond:
DrArchoo, I understand someone doing this is annoying and wakes you up, but really, I would think twice about getting the cops involved. Like someone said earlier, they don't need a police record - just a lesson. Young people these days (and I know because I am one of them) don't have a great deal to do. Especially now that unemployment is so high. They are just kids having a bit of fun, sure, at someone else's expense, but you mustn't take it personally. The truth is their behaviour is a much bigger issue. Why do so many young people go out and get shit-faced drunk and do reckless things? Is it because they are all horrible and stupid people? Or perhaps because they are under a lot of pressure and don't have any other outlets for it?
Young people supposedly 'have it easy' these days. And yet they are living in a huge recession which has been compared to the Great Depression of the 1930s. They can't find work, they can't be independent. Therefore they respond in ways such as this.
Anyway, think twice about getting these kids arrested. They are probably suffering in some way, and the last thing ANY young person needs is a red cross against their name - for one it jeopardizes their chance of getting employment, and for such a minor offense, that is not just at all. |
You're kidding right?
Sorry they are bored. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. |
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01/02/2010 05:44:48 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by UrfaTheGreat:
Since I'm young and I've nothing much to do I'm sure they won't mind if I have a party, have everyone participate in breaking all the leftover bottles and spread em all over the ground. fun.
Honestly, when I read this I thought there should be a concern that the car might be stolen, I don't know many people who would go crazy on their own car especially ones they've bought themselves but then when they're stoned it's a different story so I guess that theory doesn't hold much weight. I don't think anybody's stupid enough to joy ride on a stolen car with out changing license plates. |
it could be stolen. i don't see why car thieves would care if the plates were seen, they wouldn't be traced back to them.
about calling the cops, sure i see no problem with it. the kids don't want a criminal record i'm sure but this is relatively minor (if this isn't a stolen car), it may have little or no effect on their record. if anything it may deter them from future incidents. better to be warned early then to let the behavior evolve into something more serious. and if it was a stolen car then they need to be caught. |
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01/02/2010 05:45:15 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by photodude:
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. |
What crime? |
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01/02/2010 05:53:34 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by Zigomar:
Originally posted by photodude:
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. |
What crime? |
The lot, whether anything has been built on it or not, has been damaged. What if the owner had done expensive work on it? what if it were prepared as an area for sports? The fact that it was not so does not mean damage hasn't been done. In order to repair the tire tracks, the costs could run from several hundred dollars to several thousand, depending on what needs to be done. They have caused damage to someone else's property, willfully, and that is a crime, albeit a misdemeanor. |
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01/02/2010 05:56:09 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Zigomar:
Originally posted by photodude:
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. |
What crime? |
The lot, whether anything has been built on it or not, has been damaged. |
How do you know this?
Sorry, I know that this 'argument' is not leading anywhere, but it's becoming too funny ;-) |
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01/02/2010 06:02:41 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by Zigomar:
Sorry, I know that this 'argument' is not leading anywhere, but it's becoming too funny ;-) |
Ummm, lessee, you drive across an unimproved lot with a 3000 pound vehicle, whilst spinning the tires on said vehicle madly. What are the chances there will be no trace of the activity the next day? The next week? If someone told you to hire someone to "make it like it was," how much do you think it would cost you?
You're correct that the "argument" isn't leading anywhere... specifically it is failing to lead to your enlightenment :-P |
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01/02/2010 06:04:17 PM · #86 |
Originally posted by Zigomar:
Sorry, I know that this 'argument' is not leading anywhere, but it's becoming too funny ;-) |
I agree. Where's the Jesse James/Robin Hood outlaw spirit these days!! Certainly not worrying about some potentially expensive work on some strangers car thats for sure! ;-) |
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01/02/2010 06:18:12 PM · #87 |
Just don't do this on the greens at your local municipal golf course - you know, the one where the average every day person can afford to play, but you have to learn to put across the ruts from the tires? Yeah, that golf course. Thanks.
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01/02/2010 06:47:00 PM · #88 |
Originally posted by Zigomar:
Chill out guys. I'm not trying to disrespect anyone, just to remind you that maybe you've gone too far? Police, hiding in bushes with zoom lenses, teaching lessons, 'value of sleep'? Calling bunch of kids doing donuts vandals is a bit too much in my opinion. |
Not every young person acts like a completely inconsiderate self-absorbed jackass whose definition of "fun" is destroying other people's shit and pissing them off. Anyone proud of having had such a youth sounds suspect as an adult. |
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01/02/2010 07:39:45 PM · #89 |
Originally posted by Zigomar:
Chill out guys. I'm not trying to disrespect anyone, just to remind you that maybe you've gone too far? Police, hiding in bushes with zoom lenses, teaching lessons, 'value of sleep'? Calling bunch of kids doing donuts vandals is a bit too much in my opinion. |
Originally posted by Louis:
Not every young person acts like a completely inconsiderate self-absorbed jackass whose definition of "fun" is destroying other people's shit and pissing them off. Anyone proud of having had such a youth sounds suspect as an adult. |
Exactly.
I've worked since I was 12 years old. I needed, and wanted, walking around money, and as I got older, driving around money. I had to pay for my own car, repairs & maintenance, insurance, and any traffic tickets I got.
So, since I was an unskilled kid, I pretty much had to work the sh*t jobs, and put up wityh crap I didn't want to....that's what you have to do. There are jobs out there if you want to work. Most kids I see simply find scut work beneath them.....except the sensible ones with aspirations in life.
And they're sleeping at 3:00 A.M., 'cause they have to get up and go to work.
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01/02/2010 07:57:20 PM · #90 |
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01/02/2010 07:59:32 PM · #91 |
| Hangings too good for them i say! |
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01/02/2010 08:02:36 PM · #92 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Zigomar:
"Grown-ups never understand anything by themselves, and it is tiresome for children to be always and forever explaining things to them.
I have lived a great deal among grown-ups. I have seen them intimately, close at hand. And that hasn̢۪t much improved my opinion of them." |
There is a concept called the "Parental Knowledge Curve." |
"When I was fourteen my father was so stupid I could barely stand to have the old man around. But, by the time I was twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in the last seven years."
--Mark Twain (as re-told by Hal Holbrook) |
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01/02/2010 08:44:49 PM · #93 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
--Mark Twain (as re-told by Hal Holbrook) |
That was fabulous!!
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01/02/2010 10:32:00 PM · #94 |
Has anyone tried to make out the plate number?
I am almost certain the last three numbers are 235. Police can do a lot with that alone. |
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01/02/2010 10:56:28 PM · #95 |
It never ceases to amaze me how American "criminals" always have valid traceable license plates and thus a fixed abode to which the cops can casually waltz up and apprehend the dastardly fiend(s).
That and, judging by Hollywood, how all aliens arrive in LA, as if it was the last frontier of every doomed Alien race :) In "the rest of the world" real criminals tend to have the forethought of removing their plates or attaching stolen ones before having some midnight fun... |
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01/02/2010 11:03:24 PM · #96 |
Originally posted by Magnum_za:
In "the rest of the world" real criminals tend to have the forethought of removing their plates or attaching stolen ones before having some midnight fun... |
You're assuming that teenage idiots that do donuts in a neighborhood at 3:00 A.M. have enough thought and foresight to pull the plates.
Right.....
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01/02/2010 11:11:57 PM · #97 |
I am guessing they never thought of removing or covering the plates.
Kids did some donuts in our local cemetery. The had to go around the locked gate across that was across the entrance drive. When they came out, they went through a ditch. Rear end of the car bottomed out and left the plate embedded in the mud. When the police came to the door to get the driver he asked how did they even know it was him? They handed him the plate.
I am sure the plates belong to the car. In the excitement kids forget to take precautions!
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01/02/2010 11:13:02 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by drydoc:
...In the excitement kids forget to take precautions! |
LOL, that's the root of another problem as well! |
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01/02/2010 11:21:58 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by drydoc:
...In the excitement kids forget to take precautions! |
LOL, that's the root of another problem as well! |
Why did I never think of doing that while doing donuts in an empty lot when I was 18? : )
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01/03/2010 12:04:53 AM · #100 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Magnum_za:
In "the rest of the world" real criminals tend to have the forethought of removing their plates or attaching stolen ones before having some midnight fun... |
You're assuming that teenage idiots that do donuts in a neighborhood at 3:00 A.M. have enough thought and foresight to pull the plates.
Right..... |
And you are ASS-U-ming that they are teenagers AND idiots AND have no forethought or foresight.
Maybe they are teenagers, maybe they aren't. The plate is the place to start, off course.
Just read the irony, comedy and tongue in cheek in my post and preceding cartoon. |
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