Scary: HP Computers are Racist! - DPChallenge Forums

12/18/2009 06:30:26 AM · #1

I'm not a rabid activist, but this is pretty sad.....just watch, it really says it all.

This guy is not foaming at the mouth, he just makes a horrible point glaringly obvious.

HP Computers are Racist!

zxaar

12/18/2009 07:09:41 AM · #2

that computer model is straight male, only follows woman.

12/18/2009 07:18:01 AM · #3

Originally posted by zxaar:

that computer model is straight male, only follows woman.

So.....the computer's sexist????

MUCH better! LOL!!!

12/18/2009 07:20:50 AM · #4

I like the guys attitude, I also would like to hear HPâ��s response.

12/18/2009 07:24:19 AM · #5

Originally posted by alans_world:

I like the guys attitude, I also would like to hear HPâ��s response.

I actually was forwarded this by someone who works for, and has worked for, HP for some time.

I understand that this video has them in something of a dither.

I will pass along info as I get it.

ETA: The fact that the man wasn't slavering at the jaws was to me the greatest impact of this vid......his reasoned presentation is the scary part.

Message edited by author 2009-12-18 07:25:23.

12/18/2009 07:26:51 AM · #6

Have you ever tried to focus on someone with darker skin in poor lighting with your camera and the lens keeps hunting for a focal point. That is sort of what is happening with that HP. There simply is not enough foreground light on him for the camera to detect his face, so it assumes no one is standing there. If he put on some glasses it probably would track him no problem.

zxaar

12/18/2009 07:32:19 AM · #7

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by zxaar:
that computer model is straight male, only follows woman.

So.....the computer's sexist????

MUCH better! LOL!!!

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12/18/2009 08:10:15 AM · #8

Originally posted by Bugzeye:

Why defend HP, what you say just may be true, but they are actively advertising a product that does not work with a large % of the population. They (HP) should of ether withheld the innovation until it could live up to exceptions completely, or provide a prominent yet genital notice on why it might not work in certain circumstances with certain skin tones.

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12/18/2009 08:37:25 AM · #9

I am not defending anyone. And really until I see actual proof that it effects a large percentage of people other than the guy in the video, I am not going to be convinced that there is anything wrong with the HP product in mention other than the technology may still not be 100% flawless. I am convinced that a little more foreground light on the subject and it would not be an issue.

Originally posted by alans_world:

Originally posted by Bugzeye:
Have you ever tried to focus on someone with darker skin in poor lighting with your camera and the lens keeps hunting for a focal point. That is sort of what is happening with that HP. There simply is not enough foreground light on him for the camera to detect his face, so it assumes no one is standing there. If he put on some glasses it probably would track him no problem.

Why defend HP, what you say just may be true, but they are actively advertising a product that does not work with a large % of the population. They (HP) should of ether withheld the innovation until it could live up to exceptions completely, or provide a prominent yet genital notice on why it might not work in certain circumstances with certain skin tones.

one2one

Olympus E-5

12/18/2009 08:57:36 AM · #10

Put a light pointing to his face and I'm sure the software will pick his facial features up. You need lots of light to create contrast for the software and camera to pick up on details that help it work. Yes he is dark skinned and yes dark skinned people are harder to photograph. Does that make all photographers racist too?

Goes to show that when a machine is not set up properly and some uninformed people try to use it we get these types of reactions.

Very very lame to call out HP on this.

On edit.

Bugzeye beat me to it.

Message edited by author 2009-12-18 08:58:37.

rooum

12/18/2009 09:34:29 AM · #11

Originally posted by Jac:

Very very lame to call out HP on this.

The way i took the YouTube clip it was made in fun. Not a totally serious accusation at HP at all. (HP - as a Brit i still can't see those initials without thinking of the sauce though)

photodude

12/18/2009 09:37:26 AM · #12

I have 3 Comments

1. Did anyone else notice that the images were mirrored. Was this a Myspace/Facebook video shot in a bathroom mirror?

2. Maybe HP computers are really smart and Desi is in witess protection or has a warrant out for his arrest. In that case the HP machine is looking out for him.

3. My own testing has shown that HP computers show people of all races, creeds, and colors equally well in the most important of all media - porn.

one2one

Olympus E-5

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12/18/2009 09:52:51 AM · #13

Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

Originally posted by Jac:
Very very lame to call out HP on this.

The way i took the YouTube clip it was made in fun. Not a totally serious accusation at HP at all. (HP - as a Brit i still can't see those initials without thinking of the sauce though)

I guess I reacted more to the thread title than the video. Although the video does insinuate that HP's software may be more tuned to paler skinned people. than darker skinned people.

FireBird

12/18/2009 04:04:41 PM · #14

Originally posted by alans_world:

I like the guys attitude, I also would like to hear HPâ��s response.

Probably;

Well, maybe not. LOL
I suspect the software/firmware developer is Asian. That might explain a few things.

12/18/2009 05:26:49 PM · #15

Brian,actually I was being conversational not arguing, but, why in Gods green earth would I or anyone else point a light towards themselves to allow a product feature to work?

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12/18/2009 05:34:30 PM · #16

For the same reason you would put a flash on your camera?

Originally posted by alans_world:

Brian,actually I was being conversational not arguing, but, why in Gods green earth would I or anyone else point a light towards themselves to allow a product feature to work?

ambaker

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12/18/2009 06:23:09 PM · #17

Originally posted by alans_world:

Why defend HP, what you say just may be true, but they are actively advertising a product that does not work with a large % of the population. They (HP) should of ether withheld the innovation until it could live up to exceptions completely, or provide a prominent yet genital notice on why it might not work in certain circumstances with certain skin tones.

Prominent genitals will get you noticed, if not arrested in this part of the planet. ,-)

Would like to see the technology under better lighting conditions. If we withheld innovations until they live up to expectations completely, there wouldn't be very many of them. There might not even be any Windows based computers.... OK, bad example, but you know what I mean... ;-)

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12/18/2009 06:32:09 PM · #18

Originally posted by ambaker:

Originally posted by alans_world:
Why defend HP, what you say just may be true, but they are actively advertising a product that does not work with a large % of the population. They (HP) should of ether withheld the innovation until it could live up to exceptions completely, or provide a prominent yet genital notice on why it might not work in certain circumstances with certain skin tones.

Prominent genitals will get you noticed, if not arrested in this part of the planet. ,-)

Would like to see the technology under better lighting conditions. If we withheld innovations until they live up to expectations completely, there wouldn't be very many of them. There might not even be any Windows based computers.... OK, bad example, but you know what I mean... ;-)

LOL,The biggest reason I work concrete, not words for a living..

Apple iPhone 5

12/19/2009 08:11:35 AM · #19

Originally posted by photodude:

I have 3 Comments

1. Did anyone else notice that the images were mirrored. Was this a Myspace/Facebook video shot in a bathroom mirror?

Photobooth on the Mac does the same thing (mirrors the image) - Apparently it's to make it easier to record yourself as it's more like looking in a mirror, so for example when you raise your right hand, the correct hand raises in the video. Or something.

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12/19/2009 08:30:48 AM · #20

According to my HP contact, the software developed for this feature is face recognition software........since it was developed on the Asian rim, it's likely that this was just a whopper of an oversight that simply didn't occur to anyone.

one2one

Olympus E-5

12/19/2009 08:36:43 AM · #21

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Of course, not a single black person lives in Asia nor do they know that dark skinned people might just live outside of Asia. Quite the oversight. ;\ lol