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12/09/2009 02:51:20 PM · #1 |
I have voted this challenge but am concerned that there are many there that are simply sihloettes which are as different to cotre Jour as chalk is to cheese so I have not rated thes highly at all. your thoughtsMine are DNMC
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12/09/2009 03:16:11 PM · #2 |
i would agree that many are sihloettes, but that seems to have been a large portion of the previous Contre-Jour challenge, and many high scores were sihloettes.
i tried to go as literal as possible "against the light" while not being a sihloettes, and it is not scoring great.
whatever!
-mefnj |
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12/11/2009 04:22:11 AM · #3 |
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12/11/2009 05:36:21 AM · #4 |
To me a silhouette is a contre-jour or back-lighted subject. I believe that, in the case of backlighted, you have 2 options:
1. you modify your settings and take as well back-light as subject into account, to have the subject detailed resulting
2. you don't modify your settings and take only the back-light into account and create a silhouette.
Both versions meet the challenge, both versions are contre-jours.
IMHO... but I might be wrong of course
Message edited by author 2009-12-11 05:38:11. |
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12/11/2009 06:18:49 AM · #5 |
Here is an extract from the wiki definition
Contre-jour produces backlighting of the subject. This effect usually hides details, causes a stronger contrast between light and dark, creates silhouettes and emphasizes lines and shapes.
for the full page go here
Message edited by author 2009-12-11 06:19:37. |
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12/11/2009 06:24:00 AM · #6 |
| Interesting that, light and matter. |
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12/15/2009 05:49:26 PM · #7 |
| seems your interpretation is not only unnecessarily narrow (and likely self-serving) but also incorrect, kiwinick. |
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12/15/2009 07:22:22 PM · #8 |
I agree that silhouettes are also contre jour. Contre jour is against the light. Not against the light and extra light added or not added.
Now, I do think that something should be against the light--having the light source on one side of the picture and a subject on the other side, doesn't seem contre jour to me. But I had never heard the term until this challenge, so I'm not going to vote those any differently, so I certainly don't have enough information to make that determination.
Message edited by author 2009-12-15 19:58:16. |
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12/15/2009 08:24:25 PM · #9 |
I didn't introject in this thread before, because it had fallen into the void on it's own, but I think threads like this serve no purpose during a challenge, except maybe as an attempt to sway voters towards one definition.
They are not against the forum rules as I read them per se, but I don't see why this type of discussion should go on DURING a challenge. Before is fine. After is fine. Might be a good time for a rule amendment.
Message edited by author 2009-12-15 20:24:59. |
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12/15/2009 08:56:54 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
I didn't introject in this thread before, because it had fallen into the void on it's own, but I think threads like this serve no purpose during a challenge, except maybe as an attempt to sway voters towards one definition.
They are not against the forum rules as I read them per se, but I don't see why this type of discussion should go on DURING a challenge. Before is fine. After is fine. Might be a good time for a rule amendment. |
I thought the same thing when I first came across these discussions. But, whereas some people are posting just to complain about people cheating, (in their opinion), ut a lot of these cases are people questioning their understanding of a challenge. I think it's better to discuss it than to just vote if you're unsure. I don't think you are going to change people's minds, if they understand the subject. But making a confusing subject clearer for a voter is a good thing. This is a learning environment, after all. |
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12/15/2009 09:38:31 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by nshapiro:
I didn't introject in this thread before, because it had fallen into the void on it's own, but I think threads like this serve no purpose during a challenge, except maybe as an attempt to sway voters towards one definition.
They are not against the forum rules as I read them per se, but I don't see why this type of discussion should go on DURING a challenge. Before is fine. After is fine. Might be a good time for a rule amendment. |
I thought the same thing when I first came across these discussions. But, whereas some people are posting just to complain about people cheating, (in their opinion), ut a lot of these cases are people questioning their understanding of a challenge. I think it's better to discuss it than to just vote if you're unsure. I don't think you are going to change people's minds, if they understand the subject. But making a confusing subject clearer for a voter is a good thing. This is a learning environment, after all. |
That's what the "before the challenge discussion" threads (there's almost always one) are for. Posting of a few individiual opinions of either the quality or appropriateness of the challenge entries during the voting seems to me an attempt to influence how people vote. |
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