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12/08/2009 10:19:08 AM · #1401 |
I'm not familiar with the conversion rate. You'll probably have to find a Canadian source - I'm just trying to provide some considerations.
Here's another - less than $500 US.
Sony Alpha 230 with lens |
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12/08/2009 10:30:35 AM · #1402 |
Originally posted by kashi:
Originally posted by kashi:
I got this email from a friend of mine last night. I'm going to repost it here, and then go do some searching myself - hoping one of you can point me in the right direction though.
This person :
- has no vehicle or driver's licence
- will not purchase anything online
- needs this before Christmas
We're in Canada. The $500 limit is in $CDN and must include taxes.
Help, J wants an SLR camera... I really want to get him one and have come into a windfall of $500 that I can spend but so far all I am seeing is $800 and UP(to like $4000). I know you did a lot of shopping around recently-ish. Help me please? I have no idea what is good quality. He would like an SLR that would take his old Minolta lenses as well. He had a pretty fancy camera when we met and likes to take pictures, I would really like to surprise him for Christmas. Call me or e-mail me and we can set up a shopping date or something. I know it's awful short notice and everything is probably hiked because it's shopping time but I only got the money today and he tossed out the SLR camera as an idea that I am sure he doesn't think I can pull off. |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Have you tried kijiji.com, Craigslist.com etc in your area? Something might turn up. For example have seen D40 kits for around $300 on usedOttawa.com. Hope this helps. |
She wanted new. |
Waitaminute...she wants a new DSLR? For under $500, taxes included, that will take Minolta glass... hmm I'd say her expectations are more than a little unrealistic. |
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12/08/2009 01:03:09 PM · #1403 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
I'm not familiar with the conversion rate. You'll probably have to find a Canadian source - I'm just trying to provide some considerations.
Here's another - less than $500 US.
Sony Alpha 230 with lens |
Wow Deb your good, but we knew that:)
This should be more then he would ever expect for a camera in that range and for that money.
Good luck Lea.
MAX! |
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12/08/2009 03:30:18 PM · #1404 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
I'm not familiar with the conversion rate. You'll probably have to find a Canadian source - I'm just trying to provide some considerations.
Here's another - less than $500 US.
Sony Alpha 230 with lens |
WOW - that's an awesome deal !
BUT, because I am trying to find something within the parameters my friend gave me, it won't work.
It's online.
It's going to cost more than $500 CDN.
I emailed her back last night when I saw her email and told her that it wasn't going to happen for her if she wanted new.
Called her this morning. SHE wants new. She doesn't think J would mind refurbished, but because it's a gift for him, she *WILL NOT* buy used.
She really truly does believe she's going to get a new DSLR for less than $500 (taxes inc.)
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12/08/2009 03:49:53 PM · #1405 |
| Just pass along the information, Lea. She'll eventually realize she can't quite get what she's after and can make modifications to her plans as she sees fit. I know you can't buy the B&H deal, but it does give her a camera to at least look for locally that will probably take the old lenses. The Nikons and Canons will not. |
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12/08/2009 04:40:31 PM · #1406 |
Originally posted by kashi:
Originally posted by Melethia:
I'm not familiar with the conversion rate. You'll probably have to find a Canadian source - I'm just trying to provide some considerations.
Here's another - less than $500 US.
Sony Alpha 230 with lens |
WOW - that's an awesome deal !
BUT, because I am trying to find something within the parameters my friend gave me, it won't work.
It's online.
It's going to cost more than $500 CDN.
I emailed her back last night when I saw her email and told her that it wasn't going to happen for her if she wanted new.
Called her this morning. SHE wants new. She doesn't think J would mind refurbished, but because it's a gift for him, she *WILL NOT* buy used.
She really truly does believe she's going to get a new DSLR for less than $500 (taxes inc.) |
Lea, to be very blunt and probably because nobody else wants to say it - this friend is coming across as incredibly ungrateful. If J doesn't mind a refurb, esp as it's going to be tough to find the camera he wants, why the hell should she care?!
She is the kind of person who contacts me and says they want a well-broke horse that they, their kids, and hubby can ride, is a flashy colour, an easy keeper with good feet between 7-12 years of age...and oh yeah it can't cost more than $1000. And of course they turn up their nose if I dare suggest they *gasp* adopt a 16-yr-old, perfectly sound, well-behaved, seen-it-all, broke-to-saddle w/t/c Standardbred, for the cost of adoption fee and shipping...because it's ONLY plain brown or bay with no chrome.
This type of person is amazingly difficult, if not flatout impossible to please and in my experience, always far more trouble than they are worth. You would be the first to hear complaints about anything wrong with the camera.
Message edited by author 2009-12-08 19:53:23. |
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12/08/2009 07:49:02 PM · #1407 |
| Hey folks. I posted a few more shots from San Franciso to go with my FS entry. |
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12/08/2009 08:08:47 PM · #1408 |
| Jeffrey, those are damn nice, but why didn't you do your moon trick,was it because you left that stuff at home.....Well duh. |
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12/09/2009 02:39:02 AM · #1409 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
This type of person is amazingly difficult, if not flatout impossible to please and in my experience, always far more trouble than they are worth. You would be the first to hear complaints about anything wrong with the camera. |
I've done carpentry work for people like that. Having beaten you down below all reasonable estimates of what the job requires, it's best not to relax and let the energy fade away, so get to work complaining about the quality.
You don't want to disappoint a friend, Lea, but making unreal demands in a real world will upset somebody sooner or later. |
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12/09/2009 03:07:37 AM · #1410 |
Originally posted by raish:
[quote=snaffles]This type of person is amazingly difficult, if not flatout impossible to please and in my experience, always far more trouble than they are worth. You would be the first to hear complaints about anything wrong with the camera. |
I've done carpentry work for people like that. Having beaten you down below all reasonable estimates of what the job requires, it's best not to relax and let the energy fade away, so get to work complaining about the quality.
[i]You don't want to disappoint a friend, Lea, but making unreal demands in a real world will upset somebody sooner or later.[/i] [/quote
You are so right, Peter!
Italics mine. This is the kind of client that I avoid, and often drop as soon as I realize what type they are. They fret over insignificant details, are often tightwads (especially if they're rich...go figure), and will always badmouth you despite your best efforts. And they give off negative energy, which is worse for them in the long run than anyone else, but guess what, they complain all the time about their bad luck/hard lives/inability to find a brand-new DSLR for under $500 CDN...
Message edited by author 2009-12-09 03:16:48. |
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12/09/2009 06:56:33 AM · #1411 |
| When you cut out the buying online option, it seems like you cut out any opportunity of finding one. Even if you don't have a credit card, usually there's a family member who's willing to take the cash and do the transaction for you. |
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12/09/2009 07:03:16 AM · #1412 |
| The friend could buy a $500 gift card at the local camera store and let the giftee decide what to buy and how much to spend. |
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12/09/2009 08:38:37 AM · #1413 |
Everyone of you is correct - she is a difficult person to please.
And maybe I'll look horrible for saying this - but she hurt me horribly this summer (she didn't DO anything, it's rather what the person who was supposedly my best friend DIDN'T do), and right now I don't give two hoots about disappointing her in the least. Not in the least - I just cannot put any emotional energy into this "friendship" anymore.
I've suggested a gift card.
I've suggested refurbished or used.
I've suggested she wait until spring when taxes come in and use part of that.
I've even suggested she could wait until spring and I'd look at upgrading my camera body and sell her the D60 body for the money she has.
She turned it all down flat. Out of those, she seemed most interested in the possibility of buying my camera (I think she thinks that she'd get the lenses too), even though I told her his Minolta lenses would not fit my camera body and that I'd be keeping my lenses *IF* I opted to upgrade at all, which is not a guarantee.
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12/09/2009 08:49:31 AM · #1414 |
Originally posted by kashi:
Everyone of you is correct - she is a difficult person to please.
And maybe I'll look horrible for saying this - but she hurt me horribly this summer (she didn't DO anything, it's rather what the person who was supposedly my best friend DIDN'T do), and right now I don't give two hoots about disappointing her in the least. Not in the least - I just cannot put any emotional energy into this "friendship" anymore.
I've suggested a gift card.
I've suggested refurbished or used.
I've suggested she wait until spring when taxes come in and use part of that.
I've even suggested she could wait until spring and I'd look at upgrading my camera body and sell her the D60 body for the money she has.
She turned it all down flat. Out of those, she seemed most interested in the possibility of buying my camera (I think she thinks that she'd get the lenses too), even though I told her his Minolta lenses would not fit my camera body and that I'd be keeping my lenses *IF* I opted to upgrade at all, which is not a guarantee. |
nonononono!!!! Do not sell her your camera! Even if you want to upgrade. Remember, you're never supposed to sell a car to family or friends? Same with the camera!
Case in point: Scalvert sold Yo_spiff his camera. and it stopped working shortly after that. Had Shannon known, there's no way he would have sold it to Steve, but you never know with electronics. My camera still isn't working quite right and is being sent in today for a second time.
EVEN IF IT WORKS PERFECTLY WELL, there is a good chance that it's not going to be good enough, that she'll say that you agreed to give her the lenses or something silly like that. But just imagine how bad it would be if something went wrong with it!!!! |
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12/09/2009 10:51:00 AM · #1415 |
Originally posted by kashi:
Everyone of you is correct - she is a difficult person to please.
And maybe I'll look horrible for saying this - but she hurt me horribly this summer (she didn't DO anything, it's rather what the person who was supposedly my best friend DIDN'T do), and right now I don't give two hoots about disappointing her in the least. Not in the least - I just cannot put any emotional energy into this "friendship" anymore.
I've suggested a gift card.
I've suggested refurbished or used.
I've suggested she wait until spring when taxes come in and use part of that.
I've even suggested she could wait until spring and I'd look at upgrading my camera body and sell her the D60 body for the money she has.
She turned it all down flat. Out of those, she seemed most interested in the possibility of buying my camera (I think she thinks that she'd get the lenses too), even though I told her his Minolta lenses would not fit my camera body and that I'd be keeping my lenses *IF* I opted to upgrade at all, which is not a guarantee. |
Good girl, Lea, glad that you see this person as she truly is (is she even worth the title of 'friend'?) So just politely tell her you can't help her. Drop the reins and leave her to her own impossible self. |
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12/09/2009 10:51:46 AM · #1416 |
Macro without Tools
Nobody from Team Suck entered the tools challenge.  Bear_Music got our top score in Macro, with:
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12/09/2009 02:03:48 PM · #1417 |
I should have tried something for tools of the trade, but I was too busy using the damned things. Can't say I'm all that sorry about that.
I also noted that very few of the trades your old man told you to get under your belt before you were 21 were represented. Even less represented with tools you might actually be seen using today.
[rant]Hrrumph - nobody lies workmen because everybody is dependent on them.[/rant] |
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12/09/2009 02:58:10 PM · #1418 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Good girl, Lea, glad that you see this person as she truly is (is she even worth the title of 'friend'?) So just politely tell her you can't help her. Drop the reins and leave her to her own impossible self. |
In all honesty, she probably isn't.
And that makes me very sad, because we have been friends for several years now, and I'm a creature of habit.
Basically - I emailed her to tell her that our Jesse was a boy (not a girl like they'd thought at first).
She'd known that we'd lost him (I'd emailed her about that when we got home from the hospital) so this wasn't the first time I'd contacted her.
She didn't reply.
A few days passed, and we eventually saw one another on MSN. Her response then was this :
"I got your e-mail but I had nothing to say so didn't reply ..."
THAT, btw, was her first contact with me after we lost Jesse
Yes, she has kids of her own.
No, she's never experienced a loss of a child.
She, herself, claims "crap social skills" and told me that I should know that well enough by now and should have just told her what to do if I'd needed anything at all.
And yes, I knew she was pretty much socially inept - just didn't realize that she was THAT socially inept. I don't think that term even fully covers it.
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12/09/2009 03:04:33 PM · #1419 |
Originally posted by kashi:
Originally posted by snaffles:
Good girl, Lea, glad that you see this person as she truly is (is she even worth the title of 'friend'?) So just politely tell her you can't help her. Drop the reins and leave her to her own impossible self. |
In all honesty, she probably isn't.
And that makes me very sad, because we have been friends for several years now, and I'm a creature of habit.
Basically - I emailed her to tell her that our Jesse was a boy (not a girl like they'd thought at first).
She'd known that we'd lost him (I'd emailed her about that when we got home from the hospital) so this wasn't the first time I'd contacted her.
She didn't reply.
A few days passed, and we eventually saw one another on MSN. Her response then was this :
"I got your e-mail but I had nothing to say so didn't reply ..."
THAT, btw, was her first contact with me after we lost Jesse
Yes, she has kids of her own.
No, she's never experienced a loss of a child.
She, herself, claims "crap social skills" and told me that I should know that well enough by now and should have just told her what to do if I'd needed anything at all.
And yes, I knew she was pretty much socially inept - just didn't realize that she was THAT socially inept. I don't think that term even fully covers it. |
*sigh* I wouldn't say my social skills are outstanding either, but still when you know someone - esp someone who has considered you a friend for a long time - has experienced a tremendous loss like you did, you don't even really need to think about how to act. You respond instinctively. I've seen animals grieve over the loss of one of their own, they don't wander off and get around to it later. They do it then and there.
This person has probably been taking advantage of you all these years, Lea, and you're just too kindhearted a person to say no or turn them away. But it's time for that crap to end.
IMHO friendship, like trust, is not automatically a right, it's a privilege, and must be earned. Relegate her to the role of passing acquaintance, and walk away.
Message edited by author 2009-12-09 17:34:57. |
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12/09/2009 08:34:57 PM · #1420 |
Originally posted by kashi:
Originally posted by snaffles:
Good girl, Lea, glad that you see this person as she truly is (is she even worth the title of 'friend'?) So just politely tell her you can't help her. Drop the reins and leave her to her own impossible self. |
In all honesty, she probably isn't.
And that makes me very sad, because we have been friends for several years now, and I'm a creature of habit.
Basically - I emailed her to tell her that our Jesse was a boy (not a girl like they'd thought at first).
She'd known that we'd lost him (I'd emailed her about that when we got home from the hospital) so this wasn't the first time I'd contacted her.
She didn't reply.
A few days passed, and we eventually saw one another on MSN. Her response then was this :
"I got your e-mail but I had nothing to say so didn't reply ..."
THAT, btw, was her first contact with me after we lost Jesse
Yes, she has kids of her own.
No, she's never experienced a loss of a child.
She, herself, claims "crap social skills" and told me that I should know that well enough by now and should have just told her what to do if I'd needed anything at all.
And yes, I knew she was pretty much socially inept - just didn't realize that she was THAT socially inept. I don't think that term even fully covers it. |
If she is this selfish in everything she does, then it's just not a friendship. However, if this seems out of the norm, some people just don't know how to deal with grief. I have a friend who has always been available to help with things. However, when my father died, I got absolutely no sympathy or understanding from her. She is a great friend in other ways, but was completely lacking in that area. Surprised the heck out of me. But it never got better. Any time I wanted to talk, she would just shut me down. I've learned that if I want to be her friend, I can't expect anything from her in that area. But in other areas she is great. It hurt at the time, and it's not anything like what you went through, yet was still incredibly difficult for me. I didn't know if I wanted a friend who could be that callous. But she really is worth keeping in every other way, so I deal with it. However, if she acts like she's acting with the camera deal in the rest of her dealings, I certainly would question whether it was worth it!
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12/09/2009 11:19:44 PM · #1421 |
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12/10/2009 07:50:37 PM · #1422 |
| wrecked my car today. just fabulous. |
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12/10/2009 07:51:29 PM · #1423 |
Originally posted by LadyK:
wrecked my car today. just fabulous. |
well just glad you are ok you can fix/replace a car |
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12/10/2009 07:56:40 PM · #1424 |
Originally posted by LadyK:
wrecked my car today. just fabulous. |
wow, and I was feeling bad that I sent my 40D in AGAIN to be fixed. You got me beat by quite a bit! How bad is it? |
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12/11/2009 06:12:11 AM · #1425 |
Reaper interrupted. Was going to ask for name suggestions, but in possessing this, name found. So I introduce Nutmegâ€Â¦ Meg in short.
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