Tilt/Shift? A Thursday challenge?

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

11/27/2009 11:29:29 AM · #27

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Melethia:
The challenge description probably needs a little flag or something indicating that in this instance editing CAN create a new "feature" for those who use software to get the effect.

I don't think isolation-by-blurring, which this is, has ever been considered a "new feature" in advanced...

R.

I don't know why I thought it was a problem - apparently it is not as Five_Seat had a perfectly acceptable free study. Carry on!

To be honest, I was worried that I might be DQ'ed for exactly what you guys are talking about. I guess the effect is legal though... There is a chance that my entry slipped by, as some of the middle-of-the-pack ones tend to do.

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/27/2009 11:37:06 AM · #28

What if I take a picture of an actual miniature? Won't I be dq'd for fooling the viewer into thinking he is being fooled?

Message edited by author 2009-11-27 11:37:21.

one2one

Olympus E-5

11/27/2009 11:49:40 AM · #29

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Interesting challenge, but what gives? Is this a new feature for members, Thursday AND Sunday challenges? That would be great...

R.

Yes it would. Any SC that would like to tell us if this is new or just a Thanksgiving gift, please do. :)

skewsme

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 200mm f/2.8 L II USM Lens

11/27/2009 11:53:24 AM · #30

//tiltshiftmaker.com

11/27/2009 11:57:54 AM · #31

Originally posted by Melethia:

Barry, the one he posted a few messages back of the tennis match.

Thanks Deb. I understand that being lifted up as an example, but it's not really an example of what would/would not pass validation as this image finished well outside the validation request range (unless requested by a voter) and if I understand it correctly, there wasn't a validation request made was there?

11/27/2009 12:00:14 PM · #32

Originally posted by bvy:

Originally posted by glad2badad:
ETA - This shot was DQ'd in the Rainbow II challenge (which ran under Advanced editing rules) -->

My guess here is that the mask is too well defined, too discrete, such that the mask itself becomes a new "image area." The mask must be a tool to accomplish some other effect, not the effect itself. My take on it anyway...

I guess I considered this example because if you replace the opaque selected area with gaussian blur, it's very similar in the processing task/technique.

11/27/2009 12:01:43 PM · #33

Originally posted by skewsme:

//tiltshiftmaker.com

LOL!!

rooum

11/27/2009 12:02:45 PM · #34

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

It's worth noting that, per the description(Tilt-shift photography refers to the use of camera movements, and sometimes specifically refers to the use of tilt for selective focus, often for simulating a miniature scene.), this challenge is not just about doing "miniatures": we actually had a challenge for that not all that long ago.

Certainly not just for miniatures although i suspect they will do very well in this challenge. I've been enjoying doing a lot of selective focus type images recently and i assume this type would not be DQ'd during this challenge...

i think i'll probably use the lensbaby for the challenge though but i don't think there is anything wrong with the photoshop approach. As Rob mentioned, it's all about faking reality to a certain extent, and i'd say thats true for all photography. And long may that reign!

Message edited by author 2009-11-27 12:04:08.

11/27/2009 12:03:11 PM · #35

Originally posted by johst582:

... Is this challenge going to be a mix of extreme artistic tilt/shift "effects" a'la lensbaby, mixed with "too perfect" architecture and product shots? :)

My guess is this challenge will be a photoshop contest - may the best "miniature" win. I'll probably put my lensbaby away for this one and take the photoshop direction myself.

11/27/2009 12:05:08 PM · #36

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by johst582:
... Is this challenge going to be a mix of extreme artistic tilt/shift "effects" a'la lensbaby, mixed with "too perfect" architecture and product shots? :)

My guess is this challenge will be a photoshop contest - may the best "miniature" win. I'll probably put my lensbaby away for this one and take the photoshop direction myself.

Chicken!! This is a perfect opportunity for Lensbaby shots!

rooum

11/27/2009 12:06:38 PM · #37

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by johst582:
... Is this challenge going to be a mix of extreme artistic tilt/shift "effects" a'la lensbaby, mixed with "too perfect" architecture and product shots? :)

My guess is this challenge will be a photoshop contest - may the best "miniature" win. I'll probably put my lensbaby away for this one and take the photoshop direction myself.

Chicken!! This is a perfect opportunity for Lensbaby shots!

Yea! Come on Barry! Lensbabies Unite!!

Five_Seat

Canon EOS-6D

11/27/2009 12:07:54 PM · #38

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Melethia:
Barry, the one he posted a few messages back of the tennis match.

Thanks Deb. I understand that being lifted up as an example, but it's not really an example of what would/would not pass validation as this image finished well outside the validation request range (unless requested by a voter) and if I understand it correctly, there wasn't a validation request made was there?

No, I did not have to get the image validated...

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

11/27/2009 12:12:21 PM · #39

Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by johst582:
... Is this challenge going to be a mix of extreme artistic tilt/shift "effects" a'la lensbaby, mixed with "too perfect" architecture and product shots? :)

My guess is this challenge will be a photoshop contest - may the best "miniature" win. I'll probably put my lensbaby away for this one and take the photoshop direction myself.

Chicken!! This is a perfect opportunity for Lensbaby shots!

Yea! Come on Barry! Lensbabies Unite!!

Is this what they call peer pressure?! :-) Hmmm... I do have one idea that might work with the LB. :-P

one2one

Olympus E-5

11/27/2009 12:16:52 PM · #40

I have a feeling that the next time this one comes around there will be a note attached telling us that miniatures are not allowed.

Looks like a miniature challenge to me so the question is; do I chance a miniature or a targeted focus shot? hmmm

FourPointX

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/27/2009 01:09:52 PM · #41

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by bvy:

Originally posted by glad2badad:
ETA - This shot was DQ'd in the Rainbow II challenge (which ran under Advanced editing rules) -->

My guess here is that the mask is too well defined, too discrete, such that the mask itself becomes a new "image area." The mask must be a tool to accomplish some other effect, not the effect itself. My take on it anyway...

I guess I considered this example because if you replace the opaque selected area with gaussian blur, it's very similar in the processing task/technique.

i was going to post my dq that you did...however, i take the phrase "no new feature" and "no new SHAPE" to be different, and the shape is what caused this dq....

Canon RF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM

11/27/2009 02:16:17 PM · #42

If you own and operate a Lensbaby, yes, there's TREMENDOUS peer pressure to put it to good use in this challenge!! :-)

hajeka

Canon EOS R5

11/27/2009 02:46:15 PM · #43

Originally posted by eyewave:

Cool! A challenge created for me

Although you're a monopolist, I'm still working on it here :)

Nuzzer

Canon EOS-7D

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

11/27/2009 02:48:14 PM · #44

Did someone say a challenge where you have to "cheat"? I may be interested ... tell me more ;)

one2one

Olympus E-5

11/27/2009 02:53:50 PM · #45

Originally posted by Nuzzer:

Did someone say a challenge where you have to "cheat"? I may be interested ... tell me more ;)

lol

You'll need to take 47 lensbaby steps while doing it though. harhar :)

Message edited by author 2009-11-27 14:54:07.

FourPointX

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/27/2009 02:58:59 PM · #46

Originally posted by Nuzzer:

Did someone say a challenge where you have to "cheat"? I may be interested ... tell me more ;)

hahahahahaha not bad. i can always appreciate self-deprecating humor

-Joe

rooum

11/27/2009 03:13:34 PM · #47

Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by Nuzzer:
Did someone say a challenge where you have to "cheat"? I may be interested ... tell me more ;)

lol

You'll need to take 47 lensbaby steps while doing it though. harhar :)

47 Lensbaby steps are equivalent to 17 grown up steps. It's a learning process.

Jutilda

Canon EOS-7D

Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro for Canon

11/28/2009 12:10:32 PM · #48

I think the key is what your subject is. No close ups. Things need to be done far away/wide angle. I think it will be fun, even if just for the voters. I predict many won't "get it," but those who do will give us some fun tiny eye candy.

11/28/2009 01:31:26 PM · #49

Note that it says "often for creation of miniature scenes" (or something to that effect) but does not limit us to miniature-like scenes. I'm afraid normal lensbaby stuff may not be appreciated here, and that will be too bad indeed.