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11/19/2009 11:46:46 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by kandykarml:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by kandykarml:
I agree with them being "too clean"... I can't seem to find a way to run them through a noise program that doesn't make them look this "edited"... |
Before running a noise reduction program duplicate the layer, then apply noise reduction - change the opacity of the layer with the applied noise reduction until it feels right. |
I didn't think of this.. thank you, I will give it a try.. |
Another way to try out is to first enlarge image and apply noise reduction. _Then rescale back to original. Only thing is use default option for enlarging, and sharpener for reducing size.
I used to do it. |
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11/20/2009 06:31:19 AM · #27 |
Everyone will notice a blurred image. However, most people will not notice a bit of noise - people are used to the idea that image has grain. Personally, I would be far more upset with having to spend another chunk of time on a reshoot than to receive images that have a bit of grain to them.
In my experience, noise only really manifests itself significantly if you have used a high iso AND underexposed so that you need to push more than a stop. At that stage, it becomes a significant feature - which you need to work with and may cause you to reject the image.
If I were you, I would not even mention it to the subjects. They will probably be delighted with the photos - they look great. They will only be concerned if you show concern and point out to them faults that only you will see (because you’ve been exposed to sites like DPC that value perfection and because you can pixel peep and spot the defects).
If they are not delighted, you might not get strong word of mouth referrals from them but I strongly doubt that there is enough of a problem to warrant a serious complaint. If they complain, you could offer a free reshoot. That way you tailor your response to their reaction (rather than trying to second-guess their reaction).
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11/20/2009 06:55:36 AM · #28 |
| the noise is not as bad as you made it out to be they don't look bad at all! |
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11/20/2009 07:22:20 AM · #29 |
Kristin,
The images you took are beautiful. Unless they will be blowing them up and printing a 20x30 or larger I don't think you will have a problem with the noise. More than likely they will print 11x14's and below. I don't think you have anything to worry about and I wouldn't even tell them.
You did an awesome job.
:)
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11/20/2009 08:55:50 AM · #30 |
| As someone who takes crappy pictures I'd love to have taken the photo's you posted. I see no need to reshoot. The only thing negative I'd say at all is that they look TOO smooth in the skin. Don't sweat it. |
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11/20/2009 09:08:43 AM · #31 |
As photogs, were often more critical then we need to be at times. I don't see any issue with those images.
You have to remember, that we are also looking at images zoomed in at 300% for editing purposes, and anything when its zoomed in is going to look a little off. |
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11/20/2009 10:39:04 AM · #32 |
Ok... I feel better... thanks so much for taking a look at them & telling me what you saw... I did do a re-edit on the ones that were really looking to edited & with your suggestions, they have come out much better.. ;-)
here's a comparison
 new edit  old edit
Message edited by author 2009-11-20 10:42:43. |
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11/20/2009 10:46:23 AM · #33 |
Try Noiseware Community Edition. Use the right settings, and it won't be "too clean."
ETA: I don't think it's legal for commercial purposes, but if you're absolutely astounded, buy the commercial license ;)
Message edited by author 2009-11-20 10:49:05. |
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11/20/2009 10:48:00 AM · #34 |
| They look fine to me. How does a print look? |
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11/20/2009 10:50:37 AM · #35 |
| New edit for sure. The old edit...very plasticy. |
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11/20/2009 11:37:35 AM · #36 |
| I think they'll love them. They wont me nearly as nit-picky as you are. I'm sure they wont even notice. I did a shoot a while back where I hated one of the pictures. The pose was great and she looked good but there was a big blown out glare in the background. She was wearing a white coat as well so the glare and the coat kinda blended and to me just ruined the picture. The model and her family loved it though. It was their favorite picture from the shoot. I was being overly critical of my work. Now when I look at it I see it from their point of view instead and I like it now (thought I still look at the glare first). here |
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11/20/2009 11:54:10 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by danculwell:
I think they'll love them. They wont me nearly as nit-picky as you are. I'm sure they wont even notice. I did a shoot a while back where I hated one of the pictures. The pose was great and she looked good but there was a big blown out glare in the background. She was wearing a white coat as well so the glare and the coat kinda blended and to me just ruined the picture. The model and her family loved it though. It was their favorite picture from the shoot. I was being overly critical of my work. Now when I look at it I see it from their point of view instead and I like it now (thought I still look at the glare first). here |
The one with the hood, right?......8>)
Only us photogs will twitch on that one. It's a nice image.
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11/20/2009 01:00:46 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by danculwell:
I think they'll love them. They wont me nearly as nit-picky as you are. I'm sure they wont even notice. I did a shoot a while back where I hated one of the pictures. The pose was great and she looked good but there was a big blown out glare in the background. She was wearing a white coat as well so the glare and the coat kinda blended and to me just ruined the picture. The model and her family loved it though. It was their favorite picture from the shoot. I was being overly critical of my work. Now when I look at it I see it from their point of view instead and I like it now (thought I still look at the glare first). here |
The one with the hood, right?......8>)
Only us photogs will twitch on that one. It's a nice image. |
Yeah the one with the hood. My wife didn't notice any problem with it until I pointed it out to her. Then she said it was all she saw. |
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11/20/2009 02:49:26 PM · #39 |
OK, the way you need to look at it, only a photographer would look at things like noise.. I could show a couple some shots of their wedding that I shot at iso1600, even iso 2000 in some cases and guess what, THEY DONT SEE THE NOISE!! Joe public is more interested in the subject than the technicals - as long as the composition is pleasing to the untrainied eye, you capture them in a way they can relate to, they wont give a toss about noise..
I'd even go as far as saying the processed one you showed below looks worse than the original - they look like they have been dipped in plastic. Especially on the guy it looks like he has had a MAJOR botox session and his face looks blotchy.
Ignore the noise and it will just go away.
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