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11/18/2009 05:45:22 AM · #1 |
First of all: I'm not accusing anyone for anything. I'm only interested in how the system works.
I recently rented a Hasselblad camera and since it did not exist in the DPC equipment database I wrote the SC and asked if they could add it so I could submit this image with proper information. In the meantime I submitted the image anyway and selected another camera. I promptly received a pleasant response from one of the SC saying "camera added. You're good to go - lovely image, good luck!". So the SC clearly sees our images - at least when they want to.
I don't doubt the integrity of the SC just like a company does not doubt that the guy that is signing cheques and have the ability to do purchases misuse the system. But shareholders insist anyway (by means of Sarbanes Oxley requirements in the US) that duties get segregated to protect their investments. Temptation is a VERY strong factor and can control even the most diciplined individual with the best of credibility.
So to my question: Do you SC guys n' gals have a certain way of taking turns on doing admin tasks and/or participating in challenges? Has Langdon ensured that favoritism from the SC cannot happen? Does the SC have the ability to see both who an image belongs to and the current scoring average while participating in challenges themselves? Does anyone else than the SC have admin rights?
When all this is said. This is not a big corporation but rather just a hobby site and I'm really not concerned but more curious. But I know a lot of the paying members are putting a lot of effort (and in many cases a fair amount of cash) into some of the entries.
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11/18/2009 06:24:23 AM · #2 |
| Lots of answers to SC related duties and capabilities can be found in the SC Q&A thread. |
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11/18/2009 10:46:56 AM · #3 |
The SC can see which submissions belong to whom. They can also see the text entered into the Photog's Comments field if they choose (they do not see it by default).
They do not see current scoring by default, however that information is also available to them.
The SC do have information that could be used, in theory, to manipulate voting. The information they have, however, would give them only a slight advantage over anyone else choosing, for instance, to vote down the best images to give themselves an advantage. That strategy is, in any case, a self-defeating one, because if many people adopted it, no image could score really well.
The SC are subject to the same monitoring of voting patterns as anyone else, and if anything would be held to a *higher* standard than the membership at large. I have no concerns whatever with the information that the SC has available. They have a very difficult and rather thankless job to do, and they do it well, with no real compensation. As a group, they hold themselves to a very high standard of conduct. |
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11/18/2009 12:36:54 PM · #4 |
Thanks for shedding some light on the voting process kirbic.
I have all respect for the work the SC's does and agree that they are doing an amazing job. I particularly like that almost all of them have balanced opinions and views in the forums and that they seldom take sides in discussions. Kudos to Langdon for selecting a great bunch of SC's!
I also realize that the advantage of the ability to see who you are rating in a challenge is miniscule. I was more thinking about bigger things like if one person was disgruntled or in a conflict would then be able to log on as other users in dormant accounts and vote in their names in order to manipulate the final result. And I am by no means questioning that this may happen but was just curious if this could happen.
I do however find it a little annoying sometimes that some of the SC uses (what should be) confidential voting information to make their point (or simply being funny) in the forums. But it hasn't happen to me directly so this is something each individual would have to deal with if they felt it necessary - and it probably isn't. |
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11/18/2009 12:46:04 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by TrollMan:
I was more thinking about bigger things like if one person was disgruntled or in a conflict would then be able to log on as other users in dormant accounts and vote in their names in order to manipulate the final result. And I am by no means questioning that this may happen but was just curious if this could happen. |
AFAIK we don't have access to any user passwords, so this would not be possible. We also do not routinely see who has submitted an entry when voting -- it takes several extra steps to see who the photographer is for photos in the voting stage, and is typically only done during/for the validation process. |
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11/18/2009 12:46:26 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by TrollMan:
if one person was disgruntled or in a conflict would then be able to log on as other users in dormant accounts and vote in their names in order to manipulate the final result. And I am by no means questioning that this may happen but was just curious if this could happen. |
No, that would never happen. We don't know other user's passwords to log on under their accounts, and no SC would dare create ghost accounts for voting. It's a surefire ban for life. |
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