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 11/09/2009 02:17:52 PM · #151
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by rob_smith:
Basically if you display any image on the internet it can be captured and used elsewhere, THERE IS NO COMPLETE SOLUTION TO THIS.

So either enter the comps at a resolution you are comfortable with, or don't publish your pics on the internet, plain and simple.


I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand....the security of *your* images is *your* responsibility, plain & simple. Quit trying to make it a site issue.



But when the personal responsibility leads people not to enter challenges, it *does* become a site issue -- at least to Langdon, I would think.


Those 4 people who chose not to enter the challenges will be replaced with 8 new people who actually LIKE for people to see their work. This place is a cycle. Some come and some go for various reasons. Watermarking is not even a sensible idea with the thought that your image will then be safe. If I want it, I can take it. It really IS that simple. If you don't want me to have it, keep safe and locked away for only you to enjoy. LET IT GO.
 11/09/2009 02:29:38 PM · #152
I guess one of the things I don't get is that some of the most vociferous proponents of this watermarking don't do it to their portfolio pics and/or really haven't had issues with image theft.

In turn when called on it, they say "Well, I save the good stuff for challenges."

So what's to prevent someone from stealing it during a challenge?

I'd also be curious to know how many of the watermark advocates have gone to the expense and trouble to register the copyright on their valuable images.

Message edited by author 2009-11-09 14:30:19.
 11/09/2009 02:30:25 PM · #153
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Watermarking is not even a sensible idea with the thought that your image will then be safe. If I want it, I can take it. It really IS that simple.

You could say the same thing about locks on a house. Watermarking doesn't have to be 100% foolproof to be a deterrent worthy of consideration. Stock photo site aren't just using watermarks for decoration, ya know. ;-)

Message edited by author 2009-11-09 14:31:53.
 11/09/2009 02:59:24 PM · #154
Originally posted by scalvert:
Watermarking doesn't have to be 100% foolproof to be a deterrent worthy of consideration.


So you are for watermarking all images on the site?

BTW Surely there has been a poll on this subject.
What were the results????
 11/09/2009 03:27:31 PM · #155
Originally posted by FireBird:
So you are for watermarking all images on the site?

Personally, no. Anything that defaces the photos under normal viewing circumstances defeats the purpose of the site (the terrorists win). If it were up to me, I'd do the following:

1. Put a stretched transparent GIF over every image. Name the GIF "Contact Owner to License Photo". If someone right clicks or drags off a photo, they'll get an empty file with an official-sounding copyright warning.
2. Enable a standardized DPC watermark as a preference on ALL challenge entries, but make them disappear when logged in. Have a pop-up copyright notice appear upon first login (maybe even with a "more info" FAQ link explaining that just because a photo is on the internet does not make it free). That way, the regulars would get a clean viewing experience, and a thief would at least have to register AND ignore a warning to swipe a clean image.
3. Consider using a script to continually clear the clipboard or remap screen grab keystrokes wherever images are shown full size. You wouldn't be able to use copy-and-paste in comments, but it would serve as a speed bump for people trying to take a screen grab when right-click doesn't work.

That's about all you CAN do outside of using expensive steganography solutions.
 11/09/2009 03:29:53 PM · #156
Shannon........
Great ideas and ones that would be great to see
You are never going to stop the true theives, but with those measures, they also cannot claim 'i didn't know'
 11/09/2009 03:37:35 PM · #157
Originally posted by bergiekat:
what would have to happen to make them
"not right clickable"? Could they still copy, then paste into pS or something,then resave? Another issue to think about.


I've said that a few times myself..But like you say...is there a way around that? It does seem unfair for people's hard work and ideas to be on the free market as we pay to be members, I've paid in over $75.00 to participate fully in this site so far, and not sure comes February, if I'll still be a paying member. Haven't really decided, I do really enjoy the challenges still, but...its just something I've been considering.
 11/09/2009 03:37:54 PM · #158
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by rob_smith:
Basically if you display any image on the internet it can be captured and used elsewhere, THERE IS NO COMPLETE SOLUTION TO THIS.

So either enter the comps at a resolution you are comfortable with, or don't publish your pics on the internet, plain and simple.


I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand....the security of *your* images is *your* responsibility, plain & simple. Quit trying to make it a site issue.

Originally posted by rob_smith:
I have the same concerns as Jason, so I probably won't be using pictures of my children in challenges.


It's quite common for people to not want images of their children published on the Web. Again, the security of your child's welfare is on you. I didn't post images of my kid when she was small because my wife wasn't comfortable with that. Again, dead simple.....don't post images of your kids if you are adamant about their not beinmg used and/or stolen.


I am certainly not making this a site issue, I'm trying to explain it in a common sense way so people can understand. I thought we were reading from the same page but I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or not?
 11/09/2009 03:41:57 PM · #159
There is another thread on this topic started today. Do we really need two of them floating around the front page? Perhaps SC can post a link to one or the other and lock one down so we can keep all the eggs in the same carton?
 11/09/2009 03:51:44 PM · #160
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