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10/21/2009 08:56:45 AM · #51 |
Juliet, sorry to hear this, hope you can get your photos back.
Plenty of good advice here re backups etc. It's something that the majority of us will experience and I now backup mine to 3 devices as this happened to me once.
Mike
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10/21/2009 09:29:13 AM · #52 |
You guys are so cool!!!!
 smardaz is amazing and I am going to send him the hard drive and he thinks he can pull everything off. Nothing lost if he does not, everything gained if he can. SO a public Thank you and wow to you Jason.
After tossing and turning all night with the migraine and nightmares about the camera falling too, and for some reason me going on vacation with Simon Cowell, I am trying to put a positive spin on this.
A. I get to start fresh, everything I take from now on is going to be bigger and better than it was before. I get a clean slate. New portfolio,
B. Get another hard drive
C. Get an offsite one too
D. Remind people that DPC is a family community versus just an internet board!
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Again thank you all, for your suggestions, support and help and Shutterpug for being concerned about the puppy. (and I swear I wont turn him into Kagogi!! hehehe)
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10/21/2009 09:44:52 AM · #53 |
First off, I hope Juliet is successful in retrieving the files... I know how disheartening that can be! I had a hard drive crash that cost me some of my files in a hard drive crash in '06, and I've been much more diligent about having multiple backups ever since.
I was reading Louis's post about "experts" who warn that the lifespan of a burned CD is 2-5 years, and it made me curious. So I dug out some of the CDs I made back in 1996 and 1997. According to the article, "experts" would expect my data to be long gone by now. Every CD (and my earliest DVDs) I tried worked perfectly fine. (Anyone need a backup copy of Netscape 2.0?)
Again, I am all for backing things up, and in multiple places, but I can't help think that these "experts" either leave their CDs outside in the sun for years on end in a spot where the CDs are run over by traffic... or the "experts" have jobs that rely on selling new CDs and DVDs... or they just smoke a lot of crack. I'm sure that there have been CDs and DVDs that have bitten the dust, but I'll betcha that if they're treated well, most of 'em will last a long, long time.
Originally posted by Louis:
Just remember that the typical lifespan of a burned disk is finite, and some experts think it's as little as two to five years. |
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10/21/2009 09:57:41 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
I feel your pain. We lost a RAID 5 array (the enclosure controller went bad) AND the backup drive simultaneously yesterday. I managed to recover almost everything, but it was seriously stressful. |
How did that happen?! Which RAID 5 array? Was it crappy luck that the backup drive went bad as well? [/quote]
Ironically, NONE of the hard drives failed (RAID5 would have recovered from that). The controller board on the array enclosure itself– a Micronet Platinum RAID- went bad and corrupted some of the data. When that happened, I noticed that the backup drive wasn't mounted and traced the problem to a bad power brick (I've never seen one of those fail before). The drive was fine, but as a result, the backup had stopped running without notice in early August and my recommendation for dual backups was never approved. It was an extremely unlikely set of circumstances, but I managed to retrieve all but a few days of work and a new Drobo is on its way. Given the potential loss, you'd think my boss would thank me for recovering the data... :-/ |
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10/21/2009 10:04:04 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by alanfreed:
I'm sure that there have been CDs and DVDs that have bitten the dust, but I'll betcha that if they're treated well, most of 'em will last a long, long time. |
We had several Kodak and Verbatim CDs become unreadable after just a few years, even though they were verified after writing and kept in binder sleeves in a safe with no handling. On some of the Verbatim CDs, the media layer had separated off the surface of the disc like aluminum foil. Verbatim wouldn't even replace the obviously defective CDs (not that I would ever trust them again). |
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10/21/2009 10:37:17 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
DriveSavers has had a good reputation in the past, but are not cheap. You can call them toll-free and get an estimate. Check out their "Hall of Fame" and "Museum" sections -- maybe you'll feel better ... :-) |
Definitely recommend them. They did a drive recently for me. It was financially painful but they were excellent to deal with. They're also partnered with the PPA so that says something.
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
When investigating a backup system myself, I went with a Drobo. Upside is it is very simple to use and upgrade space. Downside is it's more expensive than many options and doesn't cover the problem of a single location like your house burning down. |
Ditto this. After several years with a Netgear Storage Central, the most user-unfriendly device EVER, the Drobo is a dream. And as an added bonus, it's sexy as hell. ;) |
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10/21/2009 10:59:40 AM · #57 |
Here's a not so cheap solution, but it seems like a good one. I haven't tested it to see if they actually will maintain data for 600 years yet. It may be of interest to some of the IT people types that are watching this thread.
Millenniata No Dye DVD
 JulietNN I'm so sorry to hear about your HD loss. I would be very depressed if that happened to the ext HD that I keep my working files on. I do back up to DVD about once or twice a month though, so it would just be more of an inconvenience instead of a disaster for me. I hope that you are able to get the files recovered.
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10/21/2009 01:34:10 PM · #58 |
| Im also a Drobo fanboy, I have three of them and LOOOOOOVE them. |
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10/21/2009 01:44:28 PM · #59 |
| That dog would be on the next boat to Korea... |
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10/21/2009 01:46:40 PM · #60 |
Interesting to see Drobo mentioned. I just received an e-mial from them a few minutes ago offering a dicount code good till 10-31 because I attended Phtoshop World. I have nothing to do with them nor do I currently use their product but if anyone is interested the code is:
PSW
pretty original huh?
here is the site:
Drobo
Message edited by author 2009-10-21 13:47:12. |
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10/21/2009 02:24:21 PM · #61 |
That is about as sad as it get's. I can tell you first hand that file recovery from a dead hdd will cost something like $1000 to recover as much back as possible. My one suggestion in the future is use a Mirrored External Hard Drive like something from Western Digital that way if one drive fails the other can still be used.
Once again i am so sorry for your loss, i have seen this happen to often to ppl i know. |
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10/21/2009 02:27:50 PM · #62 |
| I really hope you can recover the information, it is so discoraging when things like this happen. Anyway good luck and positive vibes! |
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10/21/2009 02:27:59 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
I think you get Robocopy as part of the Windows Server Resource kit, which is a free download at Mircosoft (don't quote me on that). |
Robocopy is part of Vista. For XP users, it can be downloaded for free via a link on this page.
I have two redundant external drives which I use to preserve my photos. Two drives because if one drive fails, I still would have my photos. When done processing all photos on my computer, I copy all of them (originals (RAW, JPG, TIFF), PSDs, and exported JPGs) to one of the drives using Robocopy (/S /E options, among others). Then I use Robocopy's /MIR to copy from that external drive to the other. This way, I have an exact mirror of each drive. Both of these Robocopy commands are in a batch file, so I don't really have to type a bunch of commands each time.
By the way, 1 TB drives are relatively inexpensive nowadays.
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10/21/2009 03:14:20 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by alanfreed:
I was reading Louis's post about "experts" who warn that the lifespan of a burned CD is 2-5 years, and it made me curious. So I dug out some of the CDs I made back in 1996 and 1997. According to the article, "experts" would expect my data to be long gone by now. Every CD (and my earliest DVDs) I tried worked perfectly fine. (Anyone need a backup copy of Netscape 2.0?) |
I've got years-old CDs that still work. I think the experts are a little shrill sometimes. I also think it depends on the quality of the medium. Cheaper CDs are likely to be less long-lived than more expensive ones. Btw, I've got Photoshop 4 lying around somewhere, and also Windows 2.0 on floppy! :D |
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