DO NOT Take the AVIAN & SWINE FLU Vaccine!

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09/08/2009 11:22:49 AM · #26

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by merchillio:
...RFID chips are so usefull...

Government shill !!! ;-)

Sorry, I work in the IT field so I love that kind of stuff. I just can't wait to have a full RFID enabled Refrigerator so it can automatically generate my grocery list and suggest recipes based on what I have inside. And no more time wasted behind that supid lady who insist on payiong with the exact change and have to search trough her purse for that last dime. nope... you just go trough the gate with your bags, it counts everything you have and it gets charged on your credit card. No mor fuss.. 5 secconds to scan and pay for your entire purchases.

Dr.Confuser

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09/08/2009 12:32:03 PM · #27

Regarding Original Post:
What a load of crap. First he needs to get his facts right. For example, AIDS/HIV was not man made. It's existed in the human population for at least 100 years. SIV jumped to the human population - it was not some bio-weapon mishap. (Source-Scientific American-August 2009). And if that's not enough, I distrust anything I read that includes "massive media coverup" in the first paragraph.

ETA: In my opinion - this guy (Dr, Lenny) isn't just nuts - he's dangerous.

Message edited by author 2009-09-08 12:33:32.

09/08/2009 01:23:04 PM · #28

Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

Bravo! well said.

but.... who's to say that infected horny monkeys were not some kind of trial bio-weapon?

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09/08/2009 01:27:09 PM · #29

Originally posted by benjikan:

It was said to be the latest threat in an ongoing series of attacks on humanity by mysteriously mutating â��supergerms.â��

There's nothing mysterious about germs mutating, it's call adaptation. Many reasons today's viruses are so damn strong is because they adapted (by natural selection, not intelligent means) to our medicine. Today's flu has absolutely nothing to do with the flu 100 years ago.

Beagleboy

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09/08/2009 02:32:04 PM · #30

Pass the syringe.

Strikeslip

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09/08/2009 02:39:03 PM · #31

Do you notice how

DrAchoo hasn't weighed in on this topic? That's because, as a doctor, he's been sworn to secrecy and the task of killing 30% of the population.

Damn. He's evil!

Beagleboy

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09/08/2009 03:04:37 PM · #32

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Do you notice how DrAchoo hasn't weighed in on this topic? That's because, as a doctor, he's been sworn to secrecy and the task of killing 30% of the population.

Damn. He's evil!

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!

Drop you pants indeed... yeah riiiiiight.

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09/08/2009 03:06:28 PM · #33

Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

...this guy (Dr, Lenny) isn't just nuts - he's dangerous.

Yep, and this appears to be recycled cuckoo material anyway. There's no mention of the current swine flu pandemic beyond the title, and none of the references are more recent than 2005.

RulerZigzag

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09/09/2009 12:54:12 AM · #34

What a wild thread! Dr. Roger Leir where are you ? The famous or infamous Dr. Leir has recently concluded that the chips he removed were initially made of crystal. The crystal implants he (Supposedly) removes are very difficult with some patients because of the complex bio coatings and it attaches to the body organically. Now as for this vaccine conspiracy, the thing with it is that you shouldn't fear RFID chips, but instead artificially intelligent sythesized Nano-cells which can take over the bodies natural cellular functions. I work in the medical field and am my company requires its employees to get vaccinated! I am suddenly no longer scared of the mercury...

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09/09/2009 02:57:24 AM · #35

This is quite possibly the most amusing thread I've seen on here for awhile.

And also, as a sidenote, I DO NOT support crackpot's decisions to not get vaccines. Herd immunity is a useful concept.

DrAchoo stepped in and did a good job explaining how this works and why everybody should participate in this thread.

I hope all you conspiracy theorists know your screwed though; in talking about it online, the government learned of your resistance to their ends and has already implanted you and is now controlling your thoughts, making you seem as though you are more insane than usual, which causes the rest of the populace to dismiss you as bloody crazy and go along with their plan.
Bummer.
;)

Message edited by author 2009-09-09 06:27:54.

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09/09/2009 05:23:11 AM · #36

I guess its all just a story I hope. But its smart to wait a bit incase theres side effects. For now just eat some raw garlic!

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09/09/2009 06:04:33 AM · #37

Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

That's the part that had me dismiss the entire thing as garbage.

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09/09/2009 07:46:06 AM · #38

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

That's the part that had me dismiss the entire thing as garbage.

Really? Since there IS no widespread human form of avian flu yet (and therefore no vaccine), I didn't get past the title.

NikonJeb

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09/09/2009 08:03:08 AM · #39

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

That's the part that had me dismiss the entire thing as garbage.

Originally posted by scalvert:

Really? Since there IS no widespread human form of avian flu yet (and therefore no vaccine), I didn't get past the title.

I had to read a little just out of curiosity.

I have also been known to actually buy a Star at the grocery store upon occasion.

Where else can you get that much amusement for under $2?.......8>)

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09/09/2009 08:58:32 AM · #40

I'll get my shot(s) and be happy in my knowledge that I've pissed off one more conspiracy theorist. *grin*

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09/09/2009 10:22:33 AM · #41

Well, isn't it true that the virus is far from fatal? Most people are recovering from it in a few days like any other flu. So the vaccine probably isn't that important. So I personally wouldn't take the risk with a brand new vaccine, especially since there's been noise in that arena. I do remember reading an article about a swine flue scare in the 70s the vaccine ended up killing more people than the actual flu. Medicine has obviously improved since the 70s but still, one must take precautions. I definitely won't be on the front-lines of taking this vaccine if i even take it at all.

09/09/2009 10:52:42 AM · #42

Originally posted by Timosaby:

Well, isn't it true that the virus is far from fatal? Most people are recovering from it in a few days like any other flu.

Yes, although "like any other flu" refers to a virus that kills nearly 500,000 people a year.

Originally posted by Timosaby:

So the vaccine probably isn't that important.

Huge NO! The difference is that people have little or no immunity to this novel strain, and it tends to hit older children and young adults the hardest (as opposed to the really young and elderly with 'regular' flu). The relative lack of immunity allows swine flu to spread easier, and it's displacing other flu viruses this year as the predominate strain. If it mutates into a deadlier form, then it becomes a potential 1918 situation: a more lethal bug with rapid transmission rates. Those who were vaccinated would likely have at least partial resistance.

Also note that this isn't a "brand new vaccine" in the sense that the Lyme Disease vaccine was. Influenza vaccines have been around for over 50 years, and are reformulated annually to target new strains. It's just a new flavor of ice cream, so to speak.

Message edited by author 2009-09-09 11:14:39.

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09/09/2009 11:12:46 AM · #43

Originally posted by Timosaby:

Well, isn't it true that the virus is far from fatal? Most people are recovering from it in a few days like any other flu.

Most people who died from the H1N1 flu were already sick and that was only the final blow, since the body was unable to fight back

Originally posted by scalvert:

Yes, although "like any other flu" refers to a virus that kills nearly 500,000 people a year.

So true... But the "regular" flu is an ongoing problem, it's not as dramatic as a "outbreak" of some mutated flu! Fear sells, Statu quo, not as much

Timosaby

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09/09/2009 01:32:43 PM · #44

Originally posted by scalvert:

That does make sense if you look at it from an aggregate perspective. Still, I think I'll wait and see before I rush to it. For the greater good of all of us, it would indeed be better to take this vaccine to prevent future outbreaks of a more serious strain.

Omg scalvert and i agree! Break out the Saudi champaign!

Message edited by author 2009-09-09 13:32:56.

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09/09/2009 01:38:45 PM · #45

Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

For now just eat some raw garlic!

Yeah, keeping all other humans at least 40' away may well be the best preventive measure you can take ... ;-)

FireBird

09/09/2009 02:05:13 PM · #46

Originally posted by merchillio:

A RFID chip is exactly like a barcode without the need for a line of sight, nothing more, nothing less.

Exactly right. They are certainly no more problematic than the tattoos that the Nazis placed on the peoples of the Holocaust. Survivors of that event went on to live long and health lives for the most part. Many were even proud to display these marks as a badge of honor.
Unfortunately you can't really see if a person is implanted with an RFID, maybe we could mandate a special tattoo that must be worn to assure authorities you've been implanted. Well, that won't be necessary because all police and most government workers that deal with the public will have hand wands that will be able to read the RFID chips. In fact any store you patronize will be required to have them. No legal transaction will be able to take place without presentation of a proper RFID code. Each person will have his own database within the government. As each transaction takes place the data is routed to the proper cubbyhole ............
Damn, sorry! My imagination ran away with me. Must adjust my aluminum foil hat!

FireBird

09/09/2009 02:07:37 PM · #47

Originally posted by in2truth:

but soldiers are targeted. The US government has already stated it.

Your cite please. I've not seen an official statement from the US Government stating solders will be implanted.