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			|  | 01/31/2004 07:28:41 AM · #1 | 
		| | Woo hoo!  Look what was waiting for me Thursday after work: 
 
     
 It's the Canon 70-200mm F4.  Now all I need is some good weather.  It's calling for nice weather tomorrow ... almost over the freezing point, sweet.
 
 Now I have to sell my Canon 75-300mm IS on Ebay
 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 07:53:27 AM · #2 | 
		| | Show off.   
 Way to go , bro.  Wish I had one of those
   
 Can't wait to see the pics!  Have a good one.
 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 08:01:52 AM · #3 | 
		| | Wow what did Santa visit your house again!  Or do you have someone who really loves you at home.  Looks great cannot wait to see some of your photos! 
 Melissa
 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 08:06:58 AM · #4 | 
		| | OK guys, here's the key.  Start smoking.  Then quit and show your wife how much money you're saving on not smoking.  In my case a pack of cigarettes costs $9.75 so that's close to $300 per month.  So when her eyes pop out when you tell her you paid $$750 (canadian) for a lens, you tell her that it's less than 3 months of smoking.  The key is to not let her do the math: "hey, you bought $10,000 worth of equipment, so that's 2 1/2 years, but you've only quit for 2 weeks".  lol. kidding.  My wife loves me, that's why she lets me get outrageous toys. 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 08:21:43 AM · #5 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Jacko: OK guys, here's the key.  Start smoking.  Then quit and show your wife how much money you're saving on not smoking.
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 My Husband is trying to put that one on me to get a new $12000.00 Ski-Doo!  thanks for the heads up!  hehe
 
 Melissa
 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 10:43:31 AM · #6 | 
		| | what was wrong with the 75-300?? and why are yo getting rid of it? I know partly to get some money back to help pay for the new gem you got. but are there other reasons 
 me.. I have a jar that is collecting pocket change for the purchase of a new lens, not sur which one yet, but when I have enough saved up im getting something
 
 James
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			|  | 01/31/2004 10:59:01 AM · #7 | 
		| | which 75-300mm you speaking of? the 75-200mm he's got had better glass in it than the 75-300mm i own...
 
 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 11:37:13 AM · #8 | 
		| | Absolutely nothing wrong with it.  The 75-300mm IS is a great lens.  The 70-200mm has faster focusing and tends to be sharper from end to end.  It will also attract more attention (not a positive), so it's a good think I live in a small town.  I also need to get a 1.4x converter to get the same reach I had with the 75-300mm.  I'd recommend both lenses. 
 
 | Originally posted by jab119: what was wrong with the 75-300?? and why are yo getting rid of it? I know partly to get some money back to help pay for the new gem you got. but are there other reasons
 
 me.. I have a jar that is collecting pocket change for the purchase of a new lens, not sur which one yet, but when I have enough saved up im getting something
 
 James
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 Message edited by author 2004-01-31 11:38:14.
 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 11:42:05 AM · #9 | 
		| | I'm considering buying a Rebel in the next couple of months. If I buy body only, as opposed to the kit, what's a good "all round lens" to look for? 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 11:47:00 AM · #10 | 
		| | You really should buy the kit lens.  It's the biggest bang for your yuck you'll ever get ($100).  At worst, buy it for a wide angle lens.  Better pay $100 for the kit lens than $500 for a decent wide angle lens.  Get the stock lens and a 75-300mm, then save up for a macro lens, approx. $400. 
 
 | Originally posted by orussell: I'm considering buying a Rebel in the next couple of months. If I buy body only, as opposed to the kit, what's a good "all round lens" to look for?
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			|  | 01/31/2004 12:04:17 PM · #11 | 
		| | Thas exactly the course i am following, but keep in mind lighting when looking at macro lenses... 
 although i didnt go for the IS version i got the 75-300mm III f4-f:5.6 as i have a steady hand, and have had good results full zoom down to about 1/100 shutter ( also over the sigma - the canon takes the same size filters as the kit lense) .  although they say 1/300th is minimum for hendheld at full zoom as a rule - shutter no slower than the focal length of the lens for a given shot.  so at 100mm you shouldnt shoot less than 1/100th...
 
 this is from thursday - handheld full zoom - 1/250th
 
  as a comparison and to give you distance scale this is the kit lense full zoom from the same vantage point. 
   
 
 | Originally posted by Jacko: You really should buy the kit lens. It's the biggest bang for your yuck you'll ever get ($100). At worst, buy it for a wide angle lens. Better pay $100 for the kit lens than $500 for a decent wide angle lens. Get the stock lens and a 75-300mm, then save up for a macro lens, approx. $400.
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			|  | 01/31/2004 12:24:55 PM · #12 | 
		| | Thanx for the advice. I also hear the stock lens has less cropping because the way it's designed, it is closer to the CMOS. Apparently it only fits the Rebel. 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 12:32:22 PM · #13 | 
		| | its the sensor size itself, from what i know that gives the crop factor...  the rebel/300d is a 1.6x crop factor - no matter what lense is on it.  my thinking on the EFS mount is the ability ot mount a longer focal lense in a shorter profile - to balance the weight of the camera and large lenses better.  closer to the sensor might also help with lense distortion issues -w cheaper glass??? 
 the focus ring on the kit lense kind of sucks, and its touchy...  but useable, no doubt ( and if you auto focus its not really an issue).  just too close to the end, and too narrow fro my taste maybe. well worth the $100...
 
 
 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 12:37:27 PM · #14 | 
		| | How much zoom power does the stock 300D lens have? 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 05:54:52 PM · #15 | 
		| | my color shot posted above is the kit lense at full zoom... 
 about 90mm equiv on a 35mm camera
 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 10:03:03 PM · #16 | 
		| | Ok I posted some test shots. 
 Test shots with the Canon 70-200mm F4 L
 
 I even threw in a nice cat pic and some photos of birds.  And of course my poor victim wife.  All the required subjects when testing a lens.
 
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			|  | 01/31/2004 10:08:13 PM · #17 | 
		| | WOW!! Birdy03 is incredibly sharp. 
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