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09/05/2009 11:46:57 PM · #26
Now i am confused...

I put my scores on excel and the average calculated doesnt match with the average displayed on my profile...

I tried with and without the actual score... and in both cases the average on my profile is different than the average calculated on excel...

Why???
09/05/2009 11:54:54 PM · #27
Just recalculated my average using a calculator.

The numbers dont match with the average displayed on my profile (no matter if i use or not the score of the actual challenge)...

o.O

edit to typo and to say that i had to have 6,4080 on my actual score to have the average displayed.... and i am very far from it... with a 5,89...

This is VERY strange...



Message edited by author 2009-09-05 23:59:00.
09/05/2009 11:57:46 PM · #28
Originally posted by jotaga:

Just recalculates my average using a calculator.

The numbers dont match with the average displayed on my profile (no matter if i use or not the score of the actual challenge)...

o.O


because you have to do a weighted average. You need to figure out the number of votes in each challenge. Let's say you got a 6.1 in challenge 1 and a 5.2 in challenge two. You can't just average those two numbers, because challenge one only had 93 votes, while challenge 2 had 256 votes. So your average will be closer to the 5.2 end, not right in the middle.

(sorry, too sleepy to do the actual math)

haven't read the pm yet, will read it tomorrow--thanks!
09/06/2009 12:02:18 AM · #29
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by jotaga:

Just recalculates my average using a calculator.

The numbers dont match with the average displayed on my profile (no matter if i use or not the score of the actual challenge)...

o.O


because you have to do a weighted average. You need to figure out the number of votes in each challenge. Let's say you got a 6.1 in challenge 1 and a 5.2 in challenge two. You can't just average those two numbers, because challenge one only had 93 votes, while challenge 2 had 256 votes. So your average will be closer to the 5.2 end, not right in the middle.

(sorry, too sleepy to do the actual math)

haven't read the pm yet, will read it tomorrow--thanks!


Thanks for the tip...

For paste on excel, you just need to use the paste special option...

If you get any problems, mail me because i already pasted your numbers on a spreadsheet!! (and i will input a average calculation with the weighted average now!!) =D
09/06/2009 01:25:34 AM · #30


Current Statistics:
Challenges Entered: 295
Votes Cast: 67,638
Avg Vote Cast: 5.9027
Votes Received: 57,953
Avg Vote Received: 5.7469

Here are your needed numbers to achieve your goals:
To reach a 5.7 you will need to average a 5.156 for the next 5,000 votes received which is approx. 33 challenges or 5.428 for the next 10,000 votes (approx. 66 challenges).
To reach a 5.8 you will need to average a 6.415 for the next 5,000 votes received which is approx. 33 challenges or 6.108 for the next 10,000 votes (approx. 66 challenges).

Hope this helps. I think you should keep trying to achieve the 5.8 instead of the 5.7 :)
09/06/2009 01:37:20 AM · #31
Yeah, I shouldn't have DQ'd the 4.3'ish FS but at the time I was still in my "see if I can improve" mind set. Now I can let those run with ease! :-) And Wendy, I think scoring wise I've been either stagnating or going downhill since about midway through year 2 here. Carlo, I really do try to get better (and I think I do improve) but DPC tends to think otherwise. So I'm trying to find a way to make playing the game a wee bit less depressing. Probably best just to stay away from challenges - that usually works!
09/06/2009 01:47:12 AM · #32
Unusual Objects 05/31/2009 6.4123 5 / 109 96% 27 1703 3
Free Study 2009-05 05/31/2009 6.6286 16 / 432 97% 32 843 2
Architecture V 06/09/2009 5.5588 62 / 145 58% 26 244 0
Duotones IV 06/14/2009 6.3125 27 / 253 90% 35 430 3
Image Grain III 06/28/2009 5.7479 53 / 176 70% 14 116 0
Free Study 2009-06 06/30/2009 6.5156 38 / 407 91% 41 493 13
From Above II 07/07/2009 5.9314 31 / 141 79% 29 278 1
Flowers II 07/12/2009 6.5827 10 / 253 96% 38 892 3
Portraits Without Children 07/19/2009 6.568513 / 159 92% 32 959 1
Pigeons 07/21/2009 5.2123 42 / 60 31% 45 325 5
Free Study 2009-07 07/31/2009 5.3562 296 / 418 29% 17 134 2
Rule of Thirds IV 08/25/2009 5.3129 99 / 193 49% 9 59 0

6 of last 12 in the mid 6's as well as some great photos!!!

Originally posted by Melethia:

Carlo, I really do try to get better (and I think I do improve) but DPC tends to think otherwise. So I'm trying to find a way to make playing the game a wee bit less depressing. Probably best just to stay away from challenges - that usually works!
09/06/2009 01:53:36 AM · #33
LOL, Carlo! Pick the 12 before that and you'll find only 1 above 6 and two in the 4s! :-) I'm nothing if not terribly inconsistent.

Edit to add that I am still very pleased with the ones that scored in the 4s, by the way. My FS of Christoph is still one of my favorite shots all year. :-)

Message edited by author 2009-09-06 03:04:11.
09/06/2009 07:41:00 AM · #34
Originally posted by alans_world:

Deb, as far as the cigs leave them at the store, best place for them. If you want to drop your score hell, just ask my advice on possible entries, out of my last 10 entered only 3 made it out of the 4's..


ach, yer reckless magnate -

I see you're in need of a period of post military detox., Deb.
Just follow my lead, all right?
Stop looking whre you're going!
And get those hands back in your pockets.
What is that, a backbone or an RSJ? Slouch, already.

This may take some time...
09/06/2009 08:52:16 AM · #35
Originally posted by Melethia:

.......the drill I do have is 110V only, and I currently live in a 220V world.


I like this analogy.

European code also is designated sometimes as 230v. Regardless your voltage may vary - make sure the grounding wire is secure.
09/06/2009 10:42:58 AM · #36
LOL, Peter! Yes, perhaps I need some decompression. Or the reality of being out of a job for the first time since I was about 13 is starting to sink in. Oh, and I seriously need better challenge entry titles - yours put mine to shame!
09/06/2009 11:34:12 AM · #37
I think a better game would be to try and predict what your ( Melethia)'s overall average will be in say 10 challenges time.

We could all have a guess and the person closest is the winner ?



Message edited by author 2009-09-07 16:03:31.
09/06/2009 10:16:04 PM · #38
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Message edited by author 2009-09-06 22:50:39.
09/06/2009 10:21:28 PM · #39
why
09/07/2009 04:00:19 PM · #40
Let's race! I'm barely holding on to a 5.6 and will probably drop back into the 5.5's with my current 3 entries all at 5.4. Maybe some more competition is needed? Or we can partner up some how if you'd like. You can do it Melethia! Don't let me pass you :)

Originally posted by Melethia:

LOL, Carlo! Pick the 12 before that and you'll find only 1 above 6 and two in the 4s! :-) I'm nothing if not terribly inconsistent.

Edit to add that I am still very pleased with the ones that scored in the 4s, by the way. My FS of Christoph is still one of my favorite shots all year. :-)
09/07/2009 04:13:51 PM · #41
You can pass me - you've only got 60+ challenges - piece of cake to truck on by! Now go do it! :-)
09/07/2009 04:15:54 PM · #42
can I guess that tou will be on 7.0122 in ten challenges time ?

Can you guess why I don't gamble ??

:- )
09/07/2009 04:22:22 PM · #43
That brings up an interesting topic for site council. It would be nice to see a yearly avg. Perhaps DPC would add a new Overall AVG section.

Current Look at the statistics:
Challenges Entered: 64
Votes Cast: 3,971
Avg Vote Cast: 5.4641
Votes Received: 10,538
Avg Vote Received: 5.6173

Proposed look:
2008 Avg Vote Received: 5.5632
2009 Avg Vote Received: 5.7529
2010 Avg Vote Received: 6.3687 (In my dreams)
Overall Stats:
Challenges Entered: 64
Votes Cast: 3,971
Avg Vote Cast: 5.4641
Votes Received: 10,538
Avg Vote Received: 5.6173


What do you think?

Originally posted by Melethia:

You can pass me - you've only got 60+ challenges - piece of cake to truck on by! Now go do it! :-)


Message edited by author 2009-09-07 16:31:01.
09/07/2009 04:32:37 PM · #44
Or maybe even a last 10, last 50, last 100 challenge avg.

Last 10: 6.1001
Last 50: 5.7521
Last 100: 5.5632

09/07/2009 04:33:02 PM · #45
Originally posted by Jedusi:

can I guess that tou will be on 7.0122 in ten challenges time ?

Can you guess why I don't gamble ??

:- )


My current average is 5.7469. I did have it as high as 5.7500 briefly this year. My guess is that in 10 challenges, my average will be 5.7432.
09/07/2009 04:51:35 PM · #46
last time I looked your previous ten average was over 6 . . but that tells me nothing mathematically . .

Well I'm going to guess at 5.7 . . hmmm . . what to go for ?

Heck - I'm going to go for the 5.7500 !

Any one else coming in or this or is it just between Deb and myself ?
09/07/2009 05:07:55 PM · #47
Originally posted by Jedusi:

I think a better game would be to try and predict what your ( Melethia)'s overall average will be in say 10 challenges time.

We could all have a guess and the person closest is the winner ?


Funny my avarage as of right now is 5.6999 so I think I'll aim for 5.7 as well :)

Given the actual average moves slow it doesn't give you an imprestion of if you are improving. I keep track of my running average over ten entries to see if I'm improving (I keep a chart on my profile), I think it shows I'm slowly getting there.
09/07/2009 06:19:39 PM · #48
Stats for millsa

Challenges Entered: 64
Votes Cast: 5,241
Avg Vote Cast: 5.2148
Votes Received: 12,509
Avg Vote Received: 5.7000


That was quick! Congrats!
09/08/2009 09:47:20 AM · #49
Originally posted by Melethia:

Stats for millsa

Challenges Entered: 64
Votes Cast: 5,241
Avg Vote Cast: 5.2148
Votes Received: 12,509
Avg Vote Received: 5.7000


That was quick! Congrats!


Wow, I wish everything worked that quickly!!! I would like it to rain gold, *looks out window*, no my power has gone :(.
10/14/2009 01:56:58 AM · #50
Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by Jedusi:

can I guess that tou will be on 7.0122 in ten challenges time ?

Can you guess why I don't gamble ??

:- )


My current average is 5.7469. I did have it as high as 5.7500 briefly this year. My guess is that in 10 challenges, my average will be 5.7432.


8 challenges later (counting two in voting) and I am getting close! Average is now 5.7440 and falling quickly. I am not trying to fail, honest! I come by it naturally! :-)

That x.xx69 seems so very long ago....
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