aspect ratios, prints and borders.

01/30/2004 05:57:09 PM · #1

Hi, I know when submitting a shot for a print, it has to be a certain aspect ratio. If I want a 3:2 or 1.5:1 print, I crop the shot according to the ratio, and when I add a border it has to be 3 units on top by 2 units on sides. I want an even boder all the way around, lets say, 100 by 100. But I often find my self having to change to 300 by 200. (just examples) If I add the border equal on all sides, it changes the aspect ratio and then cant be approved for prints. Can anyone help me?

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

01/30/2004 06:05:49 PM · #2

i don't do borders usually but, you can print a photo at any aspect ratio if its for you, and not for sale. they dont have to be submitted for approval unless you want to post it for sale publically

go to my prints, under the dpcprints link

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

01/30/2004 06:07:42 PM · #3

Figure out how many pixels are in the final print, decide how thick a border you want, and crop to THAT size. Then, when you increase the canvas size to add the border pixels, the final size will have correct ratio.

The only way to both crop the photo to the final spect ratio AND have an even border is a square; otherwise, either the aspect ratio of the photo has to be slightly different or you use an uneven border.

I generally crop the photo to however I want to to look, and then add a border approximately even on three sides and larger on the bottom, which I use for caption/copyright/etc. That can usually be trimmed off if you then want an even border.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

01/30/2004 06:11:58 PM · #4

Wouldnt that still make the print ratio wrong??

Message edited by author 2004-01-30 18:15:30.

dacrazyrn

Nikon D300

01/30/2004 06:23:17 PM · #5

easy way. open your image editor (PS, ehatever) Make a new file at the ratio and size you want. Fill it with the border color you want. Take your cropped image and duplicate it over to the new file and scale to fit how you want.

01/30/2004 06:24:32 PM · #6

BRILLIANT!

01/30/2004 06:39:27 PM · #7

knowing the size of the border color image, and the size of your crop, you could resize the image before draggin into the border image...

rather than using the scale tool...

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

01/30/2004 06:45:51 PM · #8

Originally posted by soup:

knowing the size of the border color image, and the size of your crop, you could resize the image before draggin into the border image...

rather than using the scale tool...

I dont get it.

GinaRothfels

Olympus 8mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko Digital ED Fisheye PRO Lens

01/30/2004 07:08:38 PM · #9

Assuming the size you plan to submit is 1200 x 1800 pixels and you want a border of 100 pixels on each side. That leaves you with 1000 x 1600 pixels to fit your picture.

Size your picture to slightly larger than that, then crop to exactly 1000 x 1600. After that resize the canvas to 1200 x 1800 to give you the required border which will be even on all sides.

Edit for spelling.

Message edited by author 2004-01-30 19:18:17.

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

01/30/2004 07:24:58 PM · #10

its probable the resolution of the image will be better if you resize it seperatley from the border image, rather than resizing a layer. i could be wrong, but that's how i would do it.

as mentioned above - to explain further what i mean.. - i would probably resample the combined images, but again, i don't tend to make borders

Originally posted by GinaRothfels:

GinaRothfels

Olympus 8mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko Digital ED Fisheye PRO Lens

01/30/2004 07:31:49 PM · #11

My method does resize it separately from the border.

For prints I think borders are quite important because some small part of the picture does get covered when you frame it, and the border will prevent anything important from being covered up.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

01/30/2004 07:38:20 PM · #12

i meant more about the resampling of the images, to get them printable.
if you resample the cropped photo, and drag it into another file at 72dpi it would mess things up.

i would prefer to leave it to the person who is matteing and framing to choose the crop of the photo that suits them, and therefore try to print full frame images if possible, and it's in the back of mind when out shooting. though not always.

Originally posted by GinaRothfels:

Message edited by author 2004-01-30 19:39:14.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

01/30/2004 09:29:33 PM · #13

Originally posted by soup:

i would prefer to leave it to the person who is matteing and framing to choose the crop of the photo that suits them, and therefore try to print full frame images if possible, and it's in the back of mind when out shooting. though not always.

The only way you can give them the entire picture and let them matte/frame it is to print it with a border so that the entire image is useable.