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Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

08/22/2009 05:32:10 PM · #4

Originally posted by jeger:

Borders are legal in basic editing as long as they are recognizable as a border. I don't think it matters which method you use to create the border.

Well, there *are* techniques for making borders that are not legal in basic, including one I use regularly in advanced editing for creating "inline" borders. However, the use of the canvas size command to create a border is definitely legal in basic editing, as long as the border is recognizable as such, and not an extension of the image background color, as you said, of course.

R.

*edited per GeneralE's correction

Message edited by author 2009-08-22 18:23:28.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

08/22/2009 05:37:47 PM · #5

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

as long as the border is recognizable as such, and not an extension of the canvas color ...

I think you meant to say "not an extension of the photo's background color;" such "padding of negative space" is considered a change in the composition and is not legal.

But adding Canvas in a contrasting/complementary color is fine. Be aware some people don't like borders of any kind, and others find they add to the presentation.

ambaker

Google Glass Google Glass

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

08/22/2009 05:50:05 PM · #6

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
as long as the border is recognizable as such, and not an extension of the canvas color ...

I think you meant to say "not an extension of the photo's background color;" such "padding of negative space" is considered a change in the composition and is not legal.

But adding Canvas in a contrasting/complementary color is fine. Be aware some people don't like borders of any kind, and others find they add to the presentation.

Borders, for borders sake, leave me cold. Borders that add to the image by really setting it off, or making the image pop, I like. But when the border adds nothing, or worse yet competes with the subject, I tend to vote them lower than if there were no border.

08/22/2009 06:21:22 PM · #7

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Yes, sorry, that's what I meant...

R.

08/22/2009 06:22:21 PM · #8

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Message edited by author 2009-08-22 18:22:54.

08/22/2009 06:26:28 PM · #9

Originally posted by GeneralE:

ahhhh, could you guys show some examples of "illegal in basic" vs "legal in basic"? Please (I'm a very visual person) I guess I am looking for the more "questionable" or "illegal" ones...to be clearer

Message edited by author 2009-08-22 18:32:29.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

08/22/2009 06:56:01 PM · #10

Originally posted by Ja-9:

Some "conversation" regarding the above photo...

Message edited by author 2009-08-22 18:57:03.

08/22/2009 07:27:18 PM · #11

So would this be considered "illegal" for basic...and it is because the photo is part of or is the extension of the border?

SaraR

Sony Alpha a7R III

Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM

08/22/2009 09:28:10 PM · #12

Originally posted by Ja-9:

So would this be considered "illegal" for basic...and it is because the photo is part of or is the extension of the border?

Definitely not allowed in basic - the only way to achieve it is to mask an area to selectively apply the blur.

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro for Nikon

08/22/2009 09:42:35 PM · #13

Originally posted by SaraR:

Originally posted by Ja-9:

So would this be considered "illegal" for basic...and it is because the photo is part of or is the extension of the border?

Definitely not allowed in basic - the only way to achieve it is to mask an area to selectively apply the blur.

good to know...I would have probably done the stupid thing and used this as I really like it alot..

Lutchenko

Nikon D700

08/23/2009 05:38:25 AM · #14

Here is a question:

If I add a border in a legal way am I then at liberty to continue processing, inline with the rules, including that border?

08/23/2009 09:48:27 AM · #15

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

Here is a question:

If I add a border in a legal way am I then at liberty to continue processing, inline with the rules, including that border?

We'd better be able to, or I've done a lot of illegal borders... I commonly create an "inline" by drawing it and then fading it...

R.

08/23/2009 09:55:46 AM · #16

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Lutchenko:
Here is a question:

If I add a border in a legal way am I then at liberty to continue processing, inline with the rules, including that border?

We'd better be able to, or I've done a lot of illegal borders... I commonly create an "inline" by drawing it and then fading it...

R.

By fading it do you mean...gaussian blur like the example that I posted from Dr.Confuser?

08/23/2009 10:02:33 AM · #17

Originally posted by Ja-9:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Lutchenko:
Here is a question:

If I add a border in a legal way am I then at liberty to continue processing, inline with the rules, including that border?

We'd better be able to, or I've done a lot of illegal borders... I commonly create an "inline" by drawing it and then fading it...

R.

By fading it do you mean...gaussian blur like the example that I posted from Dr.Confuser?

No, I mean creating the inline and then using edit>fade to make it semi-transparent. Like this: