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08/20/2009 01:58:15 PM · #1 |
..but our justice system is so screwed up sometimes..
8 years.. what a joke.
Just did a few calculationS and correct me if I am wrong, but it works out to roughly 11 days prison time per person killed.
(underlined and italicised for the pedantic amongst us)
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08/20/2009 02:01:11 PM · #2 |
| As I understand it the guy has a life expectancy of less than a year ... and if he wasn't being released, I bet somebody would be complaining about how much all his medical care was costing ... |
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08/20/2009 02:06:05 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
As I understand it the guy has a life expectancy of less than a year ... |
A lot of his victims had a life expectancy way in excess of that, but he decided to cut that short. Sorry, call me barbaric, but I would of happily left him to rot in a jail cell without medical treatment, pain relief - just so he can sample a bit of the suffering he caused the families - lets see, 270 killed, so for arguments sake they had close family averaging 15 people? So whats that? 4000 broken hearts? That`s a lot of pain.
Why should he be allowed to spend his last days with his `loving family`. Its just so wrong.
Message edited by author 2009-08-20 14:06:33. |
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08/20/2009 02:06:20 PM · #4 |
what does this have to do with USA justice systems? he wasn't jailed in the us nor did the us let him go
Message edited by author 2009-08-20 14:06:58. |
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08/20/2009 02:06:53 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by BeefnCheez:
what does this have to do with USA justice systems? he wasn't jailed in the us |
Attention to detail dear. (hint - I'm British)
Message edited by author 2009-08-20 14:08:16. |
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08/20/2009 02:08:24 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by BeefnCheez:
what does this have to do with USA justice systems? he wasn't jailed in the us |
Attention to detail dear.. |
idk what 'detail' you are referring to sweetie |
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08/20/2009 02:09:23 PM · #7 |
so I am supposed to know this how? your location is simms.. makes sense huh
lets not attack people in demeaning tones for something that can't be known without being your close buddy(?) kthx
yay you changed your profile location now we all know and i look like a jerk.. please continue with the thread
Message edited by author 2009-08-20 14:13:31. |
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08/20/2009 02:12:44 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
As I understand it the guy has a life expectancy of less than a year ... |
A lot of his victims had a life expectancy way in excess of that, but he decided to cut that short. Sorry, call me barbaric, but I would of happily left him to rot in a jail cell without medical treatment, pain relief - just so he can sample a bit of the suffering he caused the families - lets see, 270 killed, so for arguments sake they had close family averaging 15 people? So whats that? 4000 broken hearts? That`s a lot of pain.
Why should he be allowed to spend his last days with his `loving family`. Its just so wrong. |
Agreed. The 270 people on that plane didn't even have a chance to say goodbye to loved ones. I guess this is the new world. Give everyone a hug and feel good, no worries. I feel ill... |
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08/20/2009 02:18:11 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by BeefnCheez:
so I am supposed to know this how? your location is simms.. makes sense huh
lets not attack people in demeaning tones for something that can't be known without being your close buddy(?) kthx
yay you changed your profile location now we all know and i look like a jerk.. please continue with the thread |
Ohhhh kay - got that off your chest.. feel better.. you're right - lets continue. |
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08/20/2009 02:22:51 PM · #10 |
| I can't imagine how the families must be feeling.. |
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08/20/2009 02:29:34 PM · #11 |
You know, I'm a good liberal (no funny comments about that needed, thanks), but I was shocked by this release. Is there even an inkling of a chance that his early release will promote a softening of attitudes towards this U.S. among other potential terrorists? Like, "Huh, those infidels aren't so bad after all, maybe we should quit killing them?" More likely it will be "Suckers!"
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08/20/2009 02:32:07 PM · #12 |
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08/20/2009 02:39:56 PM · #13 |
| Will be interesting to see how he is welcomed back to Libya.. Hero or Villan? |
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08/20/2009 02:42:55 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by citymars:
You know, I'm a good liberal (no funny comments about that needed, thanks), but I was shocked by this release. Is there even an inkling of a chance that his early release will promote a softening of attitudes towards this U.S. among other potential terrorists? Like, "Huh, those infidels aren't so bad after all, maybe we should quit killing them?" More likely it will be "Suckers!" |
I'm guessing "Suckers". According to the article the US has tried to block or discourage his release but maybe potential terrorists will look more favorably towards Scotland... |
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08/20/2009 03:07:39 PM · #15 |
The news this morning tried to tie this to some recent courting that brittish oil firms have been doing to obtain oil business from lybia. Conspiracy theory anyone?
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08/20/2009 05:18:57 PM · #16 |
Well, he has landed to cheering crowds, the waving of flags and the honking of car horns.
So that`s answered my earlier question.
He didnt look that ill either, compared to the frail man we saw earlier.
sigh.
Message edited by author 2009-08-20 17:19:05. |
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08/20/2009 05:26:53 PM · #17 |
awww... but even mass murders want to see their mommy!
I think it's despicable. I'm completely floored that they would release him. |
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08/20/2009 05:31:36 PM · #18 |
Welcomed back as a hero! Just been on BBC news. I agree with Simms, he should have left to rot in prison. But, Libya has a lot of Oil and UK want to be friends with them again, go figure??
Remember, in the UK now, it isn't want the people want, but what Mandy and his cronies want. Brown is no longer Prime Minister, he is just a figurehead, while Mandy(Mandleson) runs the country and speaks for the government.
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08/20/2009 05:44:16 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by SteveJ:
Remember, in the UK now, it isn't want the people want, but what Mandy and his cronies want. Brown is no longer Prime Minister, he is just a figurehead, while Mandy(Mandleson) runs the country and speaks for the government. |
Shudder. |
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08/20/2009 06:08:59 PM · #20 |
He should have never been put in prison in the first place. His crime was bad enough to justify a firing squad. Whom ever decided to cut this guy loose should be kicked in the nuts 270 times with a steal toe boot.
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08/20/2009 06:10:06 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by BeefnCheez:
what does this have to do with USA justice systems? he wasn't jailed in the us nor did the us let him go |
I understood the thread topic, and OP to be an apology to the USA for letting this guy out early, considering he killed many Americans. |
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08/20/2009 06:54:17 PM · #22 |
I read that 189 of the 270 killed were Americans.
Originally posted by VitaminB:
Originally posted by BeefnCheez:
what does this have to do with USA justice systems? he wasn't jailed in the us nor did the us let him go |
I understood the thread topic, and OP to be an apology to the USA for letting this guy out early, considering he killed many Americans. |
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08/20/2009 07:13:42 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by VitaminB:
Originally posted by BeefnCheez:
what does this have to do with USA justice systems? he wasn't jailed in the us nor did the us let him go |
I understood the thread topic, and OP to be an apology to the USA for letting this guy out early, considering he killed many Americans. |
TO give BeefnCheez credit, he didn`t realise that I was from the UK and hence didn`t get the general gist of the thread - I was just pretty annoyed about the whole thing ( I get wound up over stupid decisions by our Government and their little puppet government up in Scotland) and sort of snapped back in that rather condescending way of mine.. my bad (as you would say in the US). |
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08/20/2009 07:28:43 PM · #24 |
| I have to ask, was he given a life sentence, because ummmmmmm. |
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08/20/2009 07:43:12 PM · #25 |
| I an interesting twist, I heard a report that some of the families of those killed on the ground aren't all that upset, since they're unconvinced that this fellow was actually guilty, and that certainly he didn't work alone -- they're more upset with the failure of both the British and US governments to pursue justice to its ultimate end, and instead to scapegoat this one person, be he perpetrator or patsy. |
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