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06/25/2009 09:14:39 AM · #26 |
How about Define 2 within NIK
This is the noise reduction tool that seems to apply an adjustment layer in normal mode.
In fact after you have applied it you can switch off the background layer and just use the new layer |
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06/25/2009 09:30:52 AM · #27 |
um, ok. deb: if you can post a workflow that will help.
i will get the demo later today and goof with it.
my gut still says no because the software is using an algorithm to variably apply the effect, instead of a curve or contrast layer that applies the effect consistently throughout the image.
pending.... |
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06/25/2009 11:22:30 AM · #28 |
And there is Nik for Aperture, no layers--just a conversion (as long as no u-point selections are made)--applied to the entire image, same as dfine, which does noise reduction across the entire image (unless one deliberately chooses selective areas for noise reduction). Seems like those should be legal, same as overall application of sharpening, contrast, etc. |
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06/25/2009 12:20:42 PM · #29 |
When you click on Silver Efex to start the program, it does the following, according to the history in Photoshop:
New layer
Stamp visible
Layer properties
Add layer mask
Then if you leave it at the default setting (neutral conversion), and say OK, it does the following:
Silver Efex Pro (the magic recipe, I guess - probably includes any tweaks you do beyond the neutral conversion)
Fill
Apply layer mask
Layer properties
So I'm guessing all this "mask" stuff is what will kill it for basic. But if you get a chance, take a look and see what you think. |
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06/25/2009 01:19:58 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Melethia: So I'm guessing all this "mask" stuff is what will kill it for basic. But if you get a chance, take a look and see what you think. |
Absent any specific input from you, the mask has no meaning; it's featureless. Just like you can lay a mask on any layer in Photoshop but it doesn't actually mask anything until you paint on it or whatever. Nik is just preparing the layer for the work you're about to do. If you don't actually USE any of the u-point features, you haven't done anything illegal. I don't think... That's my sense of it anyway...
R. |
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06/25/2009 05:40:02 PM · #31 |
you can use the U-point and make it big enough that it covers the entire image. How ever only effecting that color. Is it still not legal?
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06/25/2009 06:01:14 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
New layer
Stamp visible |
I'm guessing this is what would kill it since only adjustment layers are allowed. These two steps would create a new layer with information in it. (at the very least it would be a dup of the background layer)
It would be nice to know, I believe I've used the Efex b/w conversion in basic before. |
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06/26/2009 12:03:18 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: If you don't actually USE any of the u-point features, you haven't done anything illegal. I don't think... That's my sense of it anyway...
R. |
Agreed. |
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06/26/2009 12:34:30 AM · #34 |
I personally hope there is an administrative announcement regarding this. To be honest,we can banter back and forth the tool's legality but its up to SC to make an actual ruling.
Message edited by author 2009-06-26 00:35:22. |
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06/26/2009 12:36:39 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Citadel: I personally hope there is an administrative announcement regarding this. To be honest,we can banter back and forth the tool's legality but its up to SC to make an actual ruling. |
We're just giving friendly bumps to show the need for such a clarification :) |
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06/26/2009 12:41:07 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula: Originally posted by Citadel: I personally hope there is an administrative announcement regarding this. To be honest,we can banter back and forth the tool's legality but its up to SC to make an actual ruling. |
We're just giving friendly bumps to show the need for such a clarification :) |
Touche. Bring on the bumps! :) |
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07/04/2009 01:09:17 AM · #37 |
is this still under consideration? |
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07/04/2009 06:17:43 AM · #38 |
I'm going to assume "No" for the time being. Which is too bad - I do like the way it converts in most instances. But I also do support the need for basic challenges, too. |
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08/02/2009 06:47:09 PM · #39 |
How do I vignette with black instead of white? please reply to ronisrael@yahoo.com as well as forum |
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08/02/2009 06:49:20 PM · #40 |
Adding a vignette is not allowed at all in Basic Challenges. |
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08/02/2009 08:35:30 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by ronisrael: How do I vignette with black instead of white? please reply to ronisrael@yahoo.com as well as forum |
If you are talking about Nik softwre for vignetting then once in the CFE module look in the upper right hand corner of the window and you will see a color picker. Just click on the white and it will bring up the picker to chose a different color.
edit: to add that this only answers the question of how. But it is obviously not legal in Basic.
Message edited by author 2009-08-02 20:36:40. |
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08/02/2009 09:38:38 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by jbsmithana: Originally posted by ronisrael: How do I vignette with black instead of white? please reply to ronisrael@yahoo.com as well as forum |
If you are talking about Nik softwre for vignetting then once in the CFE module look in the upper right hand corner of the window and you will see a color picker. Just click on the white and it will bring up the picker to chose a different color.
edit: to add that this only answers the question of how. But it is obviously not legal in Basic. |
In Nik Silver EFX, on the right side menu panel, there is a choice called Stylizing--you can select from very customizable vignette controls, or separate edge burns. |
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08/02/2009 11:05:16 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by chromeydome: Originally posted by jbsmithana: Originally posted by ronisrael: How do I vignette with black instead of white? please reply to ronisrael@yahoo.com as well as forum |
If you are talking about Nik softwre for vignetting then once in the CFE module look in the upper right hand corner of the window and you will see a color picker. Just click on the white and it will bring up the picker to chose a different color.
edit: to add that this only answers the question of how. But it is obviously not legal in Basic. |
In Nik Silver EFX, on the right side menu panel, there is a choice called Stylizing--you can select from very customizable vignette controls, or separate edge burns. |
Right you are. Somewhere I missed the part about SEP and was just looking at the Vignetting tab in CEP. |
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08/02/2009 11:08:21 PM · #44 |
It's all good...
Color EFX has a nice "Paper Toner" selection that does some very nice b/w conversions, too :-) Gotta love the Nik Suite |
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08/03/2009 03:09:23 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by ben4345: you can use the U-point and make it big enough that it covers the entire image. How ever only effecting that color. Is it still not legal? |
A good question, since this would seem very similar to using curves in CS4 with the click and slide in picture interface. I suppose this would depend on whether Silver Efex Pro makes a mask when it does this..... |
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08/04/2009 03:05:03 AM · #46 |
Did we ever get an answer as to the use of Silver Efex in Basic?
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08/04/2009 03:07:57 AM · #47 |
I'm going to assume "yes" now, given the overall change to basic rules not restricting the software methods. But my "yes" is only for my use, and it will be the bare minimum - neutral setting, no vignetting, no "control points" obviously, nothing other than the neutral setting it defaults to, with maybe a bump in brightness and/or contrast to the overall picture. Make sense?
Message edited by author 2009-08-04 03:08:25. |
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08/04/2009 03:17:56 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Melethia: I'm going to assume "yes" now, given the overall change to basic rules not restricting the software methods. But my "yes" is only for my use, and it will be the bare minimum - neutral setting, no vignetting, no "control points" obviously, nothing other than the neutral setting it defaults to, with maybe a bump in brightness and/or contrast to the overall picture. Make sense? |
Yes. That's what I thought, just needed some reassurance! It's still "better" than the CS4 BW adjustment layer. BTW, I see no reason why the global structure slider can not be used. I just need to remember to stay away from the control points!
Thanks Deb! |
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08/07/2009 11:53:56 AM · #49 |
Wahoo! My first Basic Nik Silver entry has been validated. You can see my Nik steps in the image details. I was a bit nervous as I'm still within 25 submissions from Demotivational Poster DQ.
We are happy to inform you that your submission to the Death II challenge ("To Swat, or Not to Swat") has been validated.
Your entry has been reviewed by the Site Council and/or Administrators, who have confirmed your submission.
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05/04/2010 09:54:03 PM · #50 |
Just trying to clarify if Silver Efex High Contrast Orange Filter - applied with no moving of sliders etc is legal in Basic? |
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