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01/27/2004 11:50:42 AM · #1 |
I have thought long and hard about this. I need a new camera, I can not bring myself to shell out the bucks for a digital camera that is comparable to a film SLR, the difference as far as I can tell would be at least $1,200.00 bucks and that's if you think the Nikon D100 is anywhere near the picture quality of a film SLR, I have my doubts.
I have two digital cameras, the Minolta Dimage 5, which is essentially broken, I was never happy with that camera anyways and the Canon powershot A300 which is a point and shoot camera I bought for backpacking. Don't get me wrong, I like digital but, I always go back and use my Nikon 6006(film) when I want really good pictures, when people hire me for portraits and weddings I use my 6006.
So now my 6006 is on the fritz, I have had it to the shop twice to the tune of 300 bucks, no fix-um.
So where do I find good info on film SLR's? Like DPrieview? I assume DPrieview is only digital.
I realize that the body isn't as important as the lens, but would like to read up and get as much info as I can before I make my purchase.
Message edited by author 2004-01-27 11:53:29. |
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01/27/2004 11:57:45 AM · #2 |
i would look into something where you can use your current accessories on the new camera.
as far as digital slr goes, i bought mine in october this year, and for what i have taken in shots, i would have spent what i paid for the camera on film had i been using film since then, not considering processing the film. something to consider.
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01/27/2004 12:17:43 PM · #3 |
Thanks Soup,
What DSLR did you buy and how does it compare to your film camera?
I have been using Shutterfly for developing, they charge $3.99 for developing a roll, that doesn't include prints, but I usually only want a few anyways and when I want an enlargement I take it to a film processor in town. It feels like the best of both worlds, I get my shots onlins and I get my negatives.
Yes, you're right in the long run it will save me money. Although I am more carefull when I take film shots, not just firing at will, taking my time and putting thought into each shot.
I am worried though that I will not be happy with the quality of the shots with a DSLR. |
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01/27/2004 12:25:20 PM · #4 |
I shot for years with my Minolta 7xi 35mm film rig, and never once considered going digital. That all changed when I read about the Canon D60. After purchasing the D60 over a year ago, Ive long gotten rid of the Minolta. The quality is definately there, and the flexibility I get with the D60 is more than I ever had with the Minolta.
The only film shooting I do now, is with my toy, antique, and classic camera collection.
All the photos that Ive sold for advertising, have been digital.
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01/27/2004 12:48:37 PM · #5 |
Scab,
The D60 looks like a nice camera, wish I could afford it :( That's kind of what I am talking about though, comparing that price with the price of your Minolta gives me a headache. But as you said you're paying for the flexability and in the long run, as Soup said, I guess you save in film and developing costs.
I am also worried about durability with these digital cameras, so far I have had two break on me just after the warranty(1year) has expired of course.
I guess I could buy the extended warranties, but that tacks on another couple hundred bucks!
Thing is, I need a good camera pretty soon, can't afford to shell out a couple thousand for a digital SLR so Film SLR here I come so, back to original question, any ideas where I can get some good info on them? |
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01/27/2004 01:16:23 PM · #6 |
photography review Keep in mind, you can always go DSLR down the road and use your lenses. Keep that in mind when building your system.
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01/27/2004 02:19:21 PM · #7 |
| I'll miss your dpc photos if you depart forever. But I can understand your feelings about image quality considering you shot with film before you came to digital. You may want to check the D70 before you take an expensive plunge, and also the DiMAGE A1 since you have used the 5. |
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01/27/2004 03:04:36 PM · #8 |
you'll also have to consider if buying a film slr what you will need for lenses, and how much you'd spend on them on top of the camera...
if you buy a film slr - its likely going to be as automated as a dSLR - and just as likely to break... same as with the lenses
if you want something rock solid for reasonable ( lacking the automatic control )- look into purchasing some older Nikon equipment.
i have an older canon 35mm slr since i was 12, the camera is older than me i think, and its still functional. my mother shoots 35mm with an even older Nikon... and has had no trouble with it.
as far as dSLR - goes - i think the image qualty is real good. considering you are starting with a larger format image to work with - you can get the quality out of prints above that of 35mm enlargments.
plus full control over them with the computer.
i seriously thought about upgrading my film set up, and revamping my darkroom - but then got to thinking about continous costs, and that happened to be the reason i took a 7yr break from photography to begin with. so i changed my tune, kept my old 35mm stuff, and bought a dSLR.
as i mentioned about at $3.99 a roll 24exp - to purchase film.
i would have spent $600 on film. -vs $110 for CF cards... since October
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01/27/2004 03:48:04 PM · #9 |
Thanks Soup,Coolhar and Scablab,
Lots of things to consider, I love the internet!
I looked at Nikons line of manual cameras, they are tempting and I was surprised they still make them, but on top of every other demand I have, the camera has to be lightweight. I have a bad neck that heavier cameras aren't very nice to. Plus I would like to bring the camera backpacking, I get to places that alot of people don't get to, being able to photograph those places with a nice camera is really fun.
I'll check into the D70 and the Dimage A1, I have a sour feeling for Dimages after mine went kaputz, but I am willing to research them.
I checked out photographyreview.com good info there, thanks Scab.
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01/27/2004 04:28:20 PM · #10 |
Paige;
I notice that the market are putting together film and digital cameras by now. The great price diference is dropping every day. A professional film camera is near of a semi-pro DSLR. Easy to compare. Catch the Nikon F-100 and D100 or D1. Try to do the same with Canon EOS 3 and the 10D or EOS 300D. Why do you think it is happening? Because Film or digital sensor had less impact in camera price every day. The performance, focus system, electronics and computer science applyed there has more value than a film or digital back. And these semi-pro DSLR are all the same high end components of the best film cameras. I´m not trying to convince you to get a digital. Only to think that may be you are to be faced to increassing development, printing prices and putting your money on the past. I respect your feeling about the thought of take film shoots. The mistical and magical process of development and many other issues that can talk to your heart. But quality is not the question. Your will can be. The 35mm are practile the same as a 6.3MP. And a 10MP are incledible better in detail. The price... you can get some low. |
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01/27/2004 04:38:11 PM · #11 |
Paige....
I, also shoot a 6006. Settled on a 4300 to try digital...couldn't part with the dollars for a D100 (let alone a D1X/D2H) when a F100 was less and way way superior. But...this spring the D70's will be priced at or below the F100, which makes it a little more of a decision. Body for body dollar, there is no doubt that film will get you more, but over time and the convienence of review, I really want to touch and feel a D70. I may not decide to get it, and may choose to do a film body as well, but I at least want to "see" the D70. Have too much invested in Nikkor's.
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01/28/2004 11:20:39 AM · #12 |
Thanks Flash and Goodend,
Those are all the reasons I am struggling with this. I still haven't totally made up my mind and if the tax man is kind perhaps I will get a high end digital. I can dream, can't I ;)
Message edited by author 2004-01-28 11:21:26. |
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