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07/25/2009 04:22:31 PM · #51
lol, this represents us well
young vs old
07/25/2009 04:27:51 PM · #52
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

When we got our first TV, TV had just come to town and there were exactly 2 channels - channel 2 and channel 4. They started broadcasting at 4:00 PM and quit at 8:00 PM. There simply wasn't enough content to fill more time. It was 10 years later that one of them broadcast until midnight. When they signed off, they played the Star Spangled Banner and showed a flag waving in the wind.

Oh, and TV was live. If someone screwed up, it went out live and everybody laughed at it.

ETA: When someone screwed up, they felt no pressure to apologize because they might have offended this interest or that group or this other sensibility. They just screwed up, and went on as best they could.


This always puzzled me...what happened to channel 1 and 3??

I used to go to my neighbours to watch Popeye, they were the first in our street to get TV. Although on reflection, I wasn't normally indoors long enough to watch it in the summer.
07/25/2009 04:32:43 PM · #53
I was going through some of my late Father-in-law's super 8mm films. We are having a sort out and the projector and reels of film proved too much of a draw. There was some film of me, my wife and our two oldest kids at Xmas 1972...I was 21 years old...then it struck me, that was taken 37 years ago!!

And there I was just a few hours earlier thinking I was just a kid still:))
07/25/2009 07:01:56 PM · #54
It's funny (well not lol funny but funny-strange). I am nigh-on to 60 years old but I'm in pretty good health. I am active physically and mentally. And mostly I feel - young. I'm curious. Engaged. Experimental. Social. Willing to take risks. Eager to learn.

Yet I meet so many young people who are cynical, skeptical, negative, fearful, angry, anti-change, with a scarcity mentality. Not all by any means, but some seem "old" and "crotchety" to me.

How could the world have gotten turned so upside down?

If you're a young'en ... how do you "feel?" ... and why?
07/25/2009 08:53:55 PM · #55
Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by shamrock:

Where i went to college, you literally *could* walk uphill both ways to get to class. Damn hill country...


yep. not only *could* you walk up hill both ways, but you *had* to as well. :) My first three years of college, it snowed every "reading day" (the day before exams when classes were canceled and we were supposed to study) -- both in December and MAY.

So, we had to walk uphill both ways in the snow.

(The joke at Appalachian State is that you could always tell the freshmen because they took their winter clothes home at Spring Break).


That's nothing, I went to Oswego State University of NY, They have to tie ropes between the buildings so they don't lose too many students and the trees grow out of the ground at 45 degree angles due to the wind and snow.

For those of you that might not know about Oswego here is a little info to help you understand.

News about Oswego
07/25/2009 08:56:18 PM · #56
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

It's funny (well not lol funny but funny-strange). I am nigh-on to 60 years old but I'm in pretty good health. I am active physically and mentally. And mostly I feel - young. I'm curious. Engaged. Experimental. Social. Willing to take risks. Eager to learn.

Yet I meet so many young people who are cynical, skeptical, negative, fearful, angry, anti-change, with a scarcity mentality. Not all by any means, but some seem "old" and "crotchety" to me.

How could the world have gotten turned so upside down?

If you're a young'en ... how do you "feel?" ... and why?


Im a bit of an oxymoron. Im 20 yrs old but I have already graduated from college, have a full time job with a top Fortune 500 company, and I've ventured into the house-buying realm a bit. I already look at younger kids and I'm like "wow...". This generation is just sad.... So lazy, rude, obnoxious, ignorant.
Guess I'm what they call an "old soul".
07/25/2009 08:58:40 PM · #57
Originally posted by SteveJ:

This always puzzled me...what happened to channel 1 and 3??

I forget why there was never a designated Channel 1 (probably political considerations, but whether Channel 3 or 4 is active is a regional issue -- for example, there is a Channel 3 in Sacramento and a Channel 4 in San Francisco -- that's why your VCR-type device usually has a selector switch to choose the locally-unused band.
07/25/2009 08:59:18 PM · #58
Originally posted by ralph:

when i was a kid ...
they were shooting the best politicians & civil rights leaders
there 100's of American dead a week in Vietnam
good musicians were over dosing on heroin

and they landed on the moon ....


The musicians did? Cool!
07/26/2009 01:27:13 AM · #59
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

It's funny (well not lol funny but funny-strange). I am nigh-on to 60 years old but I'm in pretty good health. I am active physically and mentally. And mostly I feel - young. I'm curious. Engaged. Experimental. Social. Willing to take risks. Eager to learn.

Yet I meet so many young people who are cynical, skeptical, negative, fearful, angry, anti-change, with a scarcity mentality. Not all by any means, but some seem "old" and "crotchety" to me.

How could the world have gotten turned so upside down?

If you're a young'en ... how do you "feel?" ... and why?


-I'm 21 and that seems like a pretty accurate observation. On a personal note: I was born when my parents were 35 and 40 as an only child and never really had a desire to have friends until I was 9 years old. Therefore, I mostly was around adults and mirrored their mannerisms and speech because of this.

-As for the cynical part, I was around a lot of verbal fighting between my parents as they were going through their divorce, and even when they did split when I was 5, they would always badmouth each other to me. Nearly all of my friends also grew up in unsettled homes. My best friend's (practically sister) parents didn't marry until she was 3 and they divorced 2 years later. She absolutely hated her father until she was about 17. Her mother became an alcoholic when she was about 14 and had to deal with so many problems because of it. She even had to illegally drive herself to school when her mom was too wasted in the morning. She grew up faster than anyone else I have ever met and was living in her own apartment, going to school and working full time by the time she was 16. Amazingly, she is also one of the most well-rounded people I know. She had a baby when she was 19, but she is a wonderful mother and lives with her boyfriend and has many hopes and dreams, including getting a house.

My other good friend's parents never divorced, but we think it may have been better if they had. It is one of those "stay together for the kids" situations. Her father has even hit his children (in front of me) and him and his wife are extremely bitter towards each other. They are also very strict, which has caused a lot of rebellious behavior from the kids including involvement (consuming, addiction, selling) with drugs.

2 other friends of mine were orphaned at ages 7 and 13. One of them has relationship issues, but the other one is doing well. Only 1 of my friends has a healthy relationship with her parents who are still married and she turned out really well. It's easy to get jealous about it.

-As for myself, my dad (who was my "favorite" parent) died when I was 16. Over a time period of about 6 months, I felt as though I had aged from 16 to 35. I never really mentally went back to being a teenager, and even my doctors have said that my body seems much older than it actually is. It took a lot out of me, but I was actually not cynical and didn't allow myself to become depressed again because I knew it wasn't worth it. A time when I was very cynical was when I was 12-15. I was deeply depressed and unhappy with myself and even considered suicide when I was 13. It was also the time when my grandma was going through the later stages of Alzheimer's and my dad and I had to take care of her. That was probably the most difficult time because I hated showing sympathy to a empty shell of my grandma who was basically a walking corpse by the end. I only came out of my depression when she died when I was 15, lost weight, and realized that the only person making me unhappy was myself. Now I will still go through a couple of low points per year, but overall I am happy and looking forward to the future.

-I think we are all skeptical, or should be. We are given so much information today, and most of it is crap, so we have to sort through all of it to find out what is right, or risk being called gullible or ignorant.

-Fearful...hmm, I guess you could say that about some of us, but I think that skeptical was a better word. However, I do think there is a lot to be afraid of that maybe you never had to deal with like high rates of STDs, HIV/AIDS, global warming, pandemics, terrorism, bio-terrorism, new wars, financial problems, healthcare problems, etc. I also live in California, which is very expensive and therefore very difficult to live in at my age. I was rearin' and ready to move out of my parents house when I was 17. Unfortunately, 4 years later, I'm still here. I would feel worse about it, but all of my friends but the one I mentioned above, rely on their parents for "shelter." If I didn't have to be in school full time (I have to be a full time student in order to keep my insurance) I might be a able to get a full time job and move out. Of course, in this economy, you would be lucky to find a job as a janitor (what I have to do at my job sometimes). I also go to a community college and will be getting my AA in photography in the Fall. I have achieved a 3.2 and will be able to apply and transfer to San Jose State by next summer. The problem? San Jose State just stopped accepting applications through next summer because of budget cuts. A real FML situation.

-I used to think that me and my friends were just a bit unlucky, but now I'm starting to see this as the norm for our age group. We have to deal with harder things and so sometimes we have to grow up faster. So yes, long story short, in many ways I do feel "old." :p
07/26/2009 01:55:52 AM · #60
One of the other things I am getting sick and tired of, "We old ones" and "you young ones" thing. I used to thought this was a big deal, but it's not. It's an evolution of human kind without getting 6th finger in one hand.

"We had this, we were like that, we never..., we didn't..." every generation has its own way to say the same stuff over and over again. I still remember my grandpa telling exact things to my dad, and of course, my dad saying the same things to me, and now, I found myself (for a while) saying the same exact things to my son.

I stopped

Born, live die... try to survive, do your best, achieve, fail but never compare "generations" because no matter how bad it looks, upcoming generations are getting much better. They all will survive in any conditions.

End of story :|

"No offens to JulietNN"
07/26/2009 02:03:14 AM · #61
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

One of the other things I am getting sick and tired of, "We old ones" and "you young ones" thing. I used to thought this was a big deal, but it's not. It's an evolution of human kind without getting 6th finger in one hand.

"We had this, we were like that, we never..., we didn't..." every generation has its own way to say the same stuff over and over again. I still remember my grandpa telling exact things to my dad, and of course, my dad saying the same things to me, and now, I found myself (for a while) saying the same exact things to my son.

I stopped

Born, live die... try to survive, do your best, achieve, fail but never compare "generations" because no matter how bad it looks, upcoming generations are getting much better. They all will survive in any conditions.

End of story :|

"No offens to JulietNN"


When I was young, we never said what you just said. ;-)
07/26/2009 02:16:52 AM · #62
Originally posted by Ivo:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

One of the other things I am getting sick and tired of, "We old ones" and "you young ones" thing. I used to thought this was a big deal, but it's not. It's an evolution of human kind without getting 6th finger in one hand.

"We had this, we were like that, we never..., we didn't..." every generation has its own way to say the same stuff over and over again. I still remember my grandpa telling exact things to my dad, and of course, my dad saying the same things to me, and now, I found myself (for a while) saying the same exact things to my son.

I stopped

Born, live die... try to survive, do your best, achieve, fail but never compare "generations" because no matter how bad it looks, upcoming generations are getting much better. They all will survive in any conditions.

End of story :|

"No offens to JulietNN"


When I was young, we never said what you just said. ;-)


Good Lord "son"... you have to be my age t say all that. Now drink your milk and go to bed, it's 10 pm
07/26/2009 05:03:20 AM · #63
I'm only 25 and life was like that when I was young, too... I remember saving all the old batteries my mother threw out to power my almost dead walkman that chewed every tape I put in it... rubbing them to get extra power and maybe hear one more song... hehe...
07/26/2009 06:48:52 AM · #64
When you were young? For us over 50s, wired for sound was a drug propelled dream. We didn't even have aids. The man who has everything needs the cure.
07/26/2009 10:34:16 AM · #65
Well Jesus! this thread took a turn for the worse! God what a bummer.
07/26/2009 10:41:48 AM · #66
well so much for having a giggle and laugh.

Thanks for bring it down
07/26/2009 05:08:28 PM · #67
Originally posted by FocusPoint:


Born, live die... try to survive, do your best, achieve, fail but never compare "generations" because no matter how bad it looks, upcoming generations are getting much better.


i still want my flying car though ..
07/26/2009 05:36:55 PM · #68
Originally posted by FocusPoint:


Born, live die... try to survive, do your best, achieve, fail but never compare "generations" because no matter how bad it looks, upcoming generations are getting much better. They all will survive in any conditions.

End of story :|


Wow! Can we try to have a little fun along the way?
07/26/2009 06:23:57 PM · #69
Originally posted by jbsmithana:

...Wow! Can we try to have a little fun along the way?


Fun is inevitable
07/26/2009 06:47:41 PM · #70
stop being negative Focus, please, just this once, for me, call it a favor
07/26/2009 07:18:41 PM · #71
Originally posted by JulietNN:

stop being negative Focus, please, just this once, for me, call it a favor


Just for you

07/26/2009 07:32:44 PM · #72
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