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07/22/2009 10:52:33 PM · #51 |
On the other hand, some people do not care if they hurt a person's score. They may just feel that as compared to the rest of life, that this just isn't that big of a deal. Some days we get a little too wound up over a virtual ribbon. (I include myself in that opinion.)
While I do not and would not go through marking all the images 1 or 2 and then go back, in the end we all have our own vote and cast it as we see fit. For those whose voting style offends even the SC, there is the almighty vote scrubber. Other than that, it is their vote and I'll live with it.
For those of you who do give all ones and twos to start with, anytime you want to go back and correct your vote on my image this week I'm ready. ;-)
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07/23/2009 02:29:32 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by albc28:
But I know that there are several people who go through a challenge and vote each photo a 1 or a 2....and then go back later to do their real voting.
Can someone explain to me why you would do that? What is the logic or reasoning behind that? And I don't mean just voting everyone a 1 or a 2, but this goes to the people who vote everyone a 10 also. |
because the voters are tired of those post-submission whats-your-score threads. |
You better disappear. I'm finding these everywhere.
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hey! wait a minute... i'm gonna sue to SC for revealing my voting pattern! ka-phoeey |
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07/23/2009 07:19:54 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by chromeydome:
and we have yet to address the fantasy-problem of fantasy-voters giving every entry a 10, and then coming back and changing them later. If the OP can edit the original post to suggest both kinds of things are happening, then this thread can cover it all!! |
Chromey, I think you didn't finish my original post. I did include those who vote every photo a 10 also. I don't think that is right either. When you go back and change the vote, if you don't finish then you have put some crappy images above the some of the amazing images in the group.`
I also want to make sure that it's clear....this is not about those "trolls" that vote low for a challenge and leave photos low. This is just curiosity about those who vote every image a single low score or every photo a single high score on the first pass then try and vote accurately over the next couple of days. Obviously if you went through and gave everyone a 5, it doesn't boost or lower anyone score and you aren't giving bad shots higher scores than good shots if you don't make it through every photo on the second pass. But you are doing that if you are giving everyone 1's or 10's. |
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07/23/2009 07:21:53 AM · #54 |
| Which assumes that the person is not trying to be maliscious. That the person actually plans on going back and changing the vote, but may not get to every photo. |
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07/23/2009 11:20:46 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
To sum up for people coming in late:
OP made up something that voters might be doing, and then asked them why they were doing it.
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The voting roll-over "1" troll does exist. I've seen this animal one time. This miscreant will quickly vote all images a one just after midnight roll-over voting start. This will give all the peeps who constantly watch their scores a real s&(tty score in the first hour of voting. Later they change their votes to what they'd really vote, or.... I guess now that we've got the scrubber they'd just leave them and they'd all be scrubbed without any effort. It's why I turned scoring off in my DPC control panel. That way I can look at comments during voting but don't see any scores until the voting is over. I scored my only blue ribbon the first challenge after I turned it off. It was amazing watching the comments come in and I knew I must have a high score. Much more fun than looking at the number score used to be. |
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07/23/2009 11:29:51 AM · #56 |
I *highly* recommend that you don't read that tutorial.
Not that I've read it, or know what's in it, I don't.
I'd just prefer your raw vote without someone else trying
to influence it. |
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07/23/2009 11:34:34 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by albc28:
But I know that there are several people who go through a challenge and vote each photo a 1 or a 2....and then go back later to do their real voting.
Can someone explain to me why you would do that? What is the logic or reasoning behind that? And I don't mean just voting everyone a 1 or a 2, but this goes to the people who vote everyone a 10 also. |
because the voters are tired of those post-submission whats-your-score threads. |
Ahhhhh, suspect number one identified. :) |
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07/23/2009 12:07:07 PM · #58 |
Just to add to the perceived controversy:
- It seems that the first half hour after roll-over usually has my scores much higher than their final result.
- More than several of my images have finished without a "1" vote (could be the scrubber in action...).
The OP's premise seems unlikely in my view. |
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07/23/2009 02:04:31 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by FireBird:
The voting roll-over "1" troll does exist⦠|
The âvoting roll-over trollâ is really much ado about nothing. I have a random vote generator that I use for voting . Using the generator I ran two experiments. The first has a single lead-off vote of â1â. On the second experiment the first 3 votes are â1â. In both experiments all the other votes are randomly generated with an average of 5.5 and a standard deviation of 1.5. This generates a pretty typical DPC distribution of votes. I ran each experiment 100 times and here are the results:
Experiment A
Typically the Moving Average settled to within 0.5 of the Final Average in 11 votes. Sometimes it settled within as few as 3 votes.
Hereâs a typical screen shot of one of the cycles:
Experiment B
Typically the Moving Average settled to within 0.5 of the Final Average in 22 votes. Sometimes it settled within as few as 9 votes.
Hereâs a typical screen shot of one of the cycles:
The bottom line is that even if 1 or 3 of the âvoting roll-over trollsâ exist donât fret. The effect is limited and short lived. Thereâs no reason to turn off your scores just let 25 or so votes build before you start to put much credence in your score. This is true whether the troll exists or not.
Originally posted by C_Steve_G:
The OP's premise seems unlikely in my view. |
I agree, even in the unlikely event that someone is using a 1-2 sorting scheme I doubt that they would not revisit a significant portion and if they didn't I suspect that the scrubber would catch them.
Message edited by author 2009-07-23 14:07:34. |
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