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 07/02/2009 02:33:59 PM · #26
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
and who the heck wears underpants that size and style anymore?

*Art slumps in his chair*


Can I borrow your underpants?
 07/02/2009 03:15:51 PM · #27
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
and who the heck wears underpants that size and style anymore?

*Art slumps in his chair*


Can I borrow your underpants?


You got another photo session coming up?
 07/02/2009 03:28:40 PM · #28
She's not about a DPC-style world of photography at all. She's about documentation, plain and simple, not about craft. You may appreciate what she's doing, or not, but I guarantee you that out there in the art world her stuff will is getting a lot more favorable attention than practically any DPC ribbon-winning image ever would. Here's her "Artist's Statement":

Artist's Statement

I set out to find some redeeming value in the mundane of vernacular American culture and to include in my photographs its symbols and iconography. I continually redefine a place in the world that strives to unite incongruent aspects of our culture and the natural world. The landscape and our visibility in it are constant reminders of our values and how we wish to make ourselves be known; what we are willing to build, buy, discard, neglect or preserve. The objects and activities of people and nature are left as a measure of these hidden driving forces.

She has an MFA from Yale, btw, considered to be a first-rate school for serious artists.

I'm not arguing for or against this aspect of the thing, btw, just sayin' that in the "art world" she has earned chops, regardless of how we value them.

R.

Message edited by author 2009-07-02 15:29:06.
 07/02/2009 03:29:34 PM · #29
Originally posted by cynthiann:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
and who the heck wears underpants that size and style anymore?

*Art slumps in his chair*


Can I borrow your underpants?


You got another photo session coming up?


=)
 07/02/2009 03:32:26 PM · #30
Hey thats not nice even I get low 5 scores and I think my photographs are better then hers, even I wouldnt put them up on my site
 07/02/2009 03:38:10 PM · #31
It looks like someone told her she had to have some shots online, so she went out in her yard for 1 minute and 12 seconds, spun in place, and snapped off some shots on her cell phone.

The underwear shot was the only one with an interesting concept in play.

Take advantage of the free stuff: models, environment, and the chance to meet other photographers (you might learn from some of them). Thicken your skin in case she is hard over on Her Style and critiques your work according to her own standard.
 07/02/2009 03:38:16 PM · #32
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
(Does she have an E-mail I can send one of my famous JPEG compression comments to?)

ROFL!
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Underpants: artistic or voyeuristic? discuss.


Here you go ... //people.eku.edu/mary.tortorici/

07/02/2009 03:40:58 PM · #33
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
She's about documentation, plain and simple, not about craft.

I can accept this. Perhaps I am just a caveman who is not getting it, but I still don't see anything inherently fascinating about drying laundry the way it has been photographed. Maybe if she was documenting the life of the 21st century housewife, it would have something.

Maybe with the right connections, anyone can be an appreciated artist. My acquaintance that does the demolition photos has had a gallery showing in Dallas. Maybe it is time to contact some galleries myself.

I just don't know. I feel like I must accept anything offered as art forms that are beyond me.
 07/02/2009 03:44:16 PM · #34
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
She's not about a DPC-style world of photography at all. She's about documentation, plain and simple, not about craft. You may appreciate what she's doing, or not, but I guarantee you that out there in the art world her stuff will is getting a lot more favorable attention than practically any DPC ribbon-winning image ever would. Here's her "Artist's Statement":

Artist's Statement

I set out to find some redeeming value in the mundane of vernacular American culture and to include in my photographs its symbols and iconography. I continually redefine a place in the world that strives to unite incongruent aspects of our culture and the natural world. The landscape and our visibility in it are constant reminders of our values and how we wish to make ourselves be known; what we are willing to build, buy, discard, neglect or preserve. The objects and activities of people and nature are left as a measure of these hidden driving forces.

She has an MFA from Yale, btw, considered to be a first-rate school for serious artists.

I'm not arguing for or against this aspect of the thing, btw, just sayin' that in the "art world" she has earned chops, regardless of how we value them.

R.


At that, in and of itself, is why I've decided to take her class. She's undoubtable got a wealth of knowledge and just as importantly, background. I do think she need to include that stuff on her faculty page so people like me don't get the wrong impression by just seeing her 'sample photos'.
 07/02/2009 03:51:27 PM · #35
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Maybe with the right connections, anyone can be an appreciated artist.


That's pretty close to the mark. The art and literature worlds are dominated by the academics and critics, and they are very incestuous places. IN many, if not most, cases, "success" is an outgrowth of connections made more than it is of stunning work created.

For people who live in the "serious" art world, craft and beauty are close to anathema, or at least it seems that way. These people are suspicious of, and generally dismiss, anything lovely & pictorial. We, on the other hand, in DPC, tend to go to the other extreme; we tend ridicule whatever is NOT lovely & pictorial. And so it goes...

R.

Message edited by author 2009-07-02 15:52:24.
 07/02/2009 03:52:37 PM · #36
Originally posted by chromeydome:
It looks like someone told her she had to have some shots online, so she went out in her yard for 1 minute and 12 seconds, spun in place, and snapped off some shots on her cell phone.

The underwear shot was the only one with an interesting concept in play.

Take advantage of the free stuff: models, environment, and the chance to meet other photographers (you might learn from some of them). Thicken your skin in case she is hard over on Her Style and critiques your work according to her own standard.


My skin is properly thickened... I've been here awhile.

I'm getting pretty excited about the free stuff and I can't wait to meet some local photography students, though they'll make me feel old, no doubt.
 07/02/2009 04:25:02 PM · #37
Rate My Professor

07/02/2009 04:30:12 PM · #38
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Rate My Professor


Looks like the only negative was from a drawing student. I can deal with mood swings. Not sure what the money is for. I guess I'll find out. Probably paper, mount, frames, class fees to hire model?... I already did the whole darkroom class year ago before her time so I won't need chemicals. hmmmmm.
 07/02/2009 04:40:41 PM · #39
Good luck. I would really like to know just exactly what you learn from her, as it seems her personal emphasis is conceptual. I happen to prefer your own ability to extract the essence of what you see: it is light and delightful. (I suspect that our concepts are ultimately and intimately tied up with sensual experience; it is just possible that some choices of underwear are limiting our ultimate grasp).
 07/02/2009 07:26:42 PM · #40
I just showed them to my wife and her response was "Interesting". (When someone tells me my photo is interesting, I figure they don't like it, but they want to try and say something nice) When I told her this was a college professor teaching photography, and these are examples of her work, she insisted that they were truly interesting, but she was not wowed.

Message edited by author 2009-07-02 19:28:16.
 07/02/2009 08:34:07 PM · #41
i like the underpants photo, but not for it's quality.

still, there's $100,000 well spent. :P
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