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07/02/2009 01:25:31 PM · #1
Okay, so I learned that in Photoshop I should choose "Monitor RGB" and "proof colors" to see how my photo will look on the web. There is a HUGE difference in color. Then, when I try to edit the photo I want to go on the web so that it looks like my original, I just can't get it right!! What am I doing wrong. No matter what I have tried I just can't get my proof for the web to look like the original. I want to be able to share my images - not just share crappy colored versions of my images. Can somebody please de-mystify this for me? I just want to be able to enter a color photo on DPC and have it actually look like it should. I see so many beautiful color photos here - are these photographers actually editing twice (once for print and onece for web) or is there some magic thing I am missing?

HELP!!!!!
07/02/2009 01:39:53 PM · #2
Step into the depths of color management.

Every image contains numbers representing the pixels that form it. Each color space will interpret these numbers differently.

What color space is your image in?
Is this color space the same as your working color space set in PS?
If they're different, what do you do when you load the image? There are four choices: ignore (not recommended), assign (just don't do it), convert (possibility) or edit using the embedded color space.

I use the embedded color space but converting to the working space is also ok. It all depends on what you are doing.

Before uploading an image for web viewing, it should be in the sRGB color space. This ensures that the image colors will be interpreted correctly in all browsers since not all are color managed.
07/02/2009 01:50:07 PM · #3
I know all about color space and that - but it doesn't seem to matter. My photos are taken in Adobe RGB (1998). That is also my color space set in PS. I set my working space also to Adobe RGB (1998). So - that is fine. But then when I save for web and upload - the colors are WAY OFF!!! Help please.......I know about color profiles and working space and all of that....that is not the problem. My problem is that no matter what I try, it seems like my only option is to edit my original for print or whatever and then edit it AGAIN for the web - - and it never turns out how I want it.
07/02/2009 01:50:57 PM · #4
Did you convert to sRGB when doing save for web?

If using CS3 or 4 there's a check box in the save for web window to ensure of the conversion.

In prior versions of PS you need to do the conversion prior to invoking save for web.

Message edited by author 2009-07-02 13:52:17.
07/02/2009 02:04:18 PM · #5
Originally posted by charidy_b2000:

I know all about color space and that - but it doesn't seem to matter. My photos are taken in Adobe RGB (1998). That is also my color space set in PS. I set my working space also to Adobe RGB (1998). So - that is fine. But then when I save for web and upload - the colors are WAY OFF!!! Help please.......I know about color profiles and working space and all of that....that is not the problem. My problem is that no matter what I try, it seems like my only option is to edit my original for print or whatever and then edit it AGAIN for the web - - and it never turns out how I want it.


There's your problem. Most video applications will be better served with sRGB. Adobe RGB is a bigger color space than sRGB so when you are saving for web photoshop has to cram the larger space into the smaller sRGB space and that leads to color changes. Adobe RGB is primarily used for printing. If you aren't planning on doing some high-end printing it is probably easier to shoot in sRGB. You may not be able to take full advantage of the larger Adobe space if you print, but sRGB looks great printed anyway and many printers prefer to use it.

In the meantime, you can also get around this problem by converting the picture to sRGB before you start working so that you can take into account the color shift before you use your adjustment layers.
07/02/2009 02:05:13 PM · #6
Yes, I did check that box. The problem is not the sRGB setting. The problem is that I was told that in order to get an accurate representation of what my photo would look like on the web, I need to go to view, proof colors. When I do that, the color changes drastically....but it is an accurate representation of what I end up with on the web. The thing is, that I don't want to have to edit each photo twice (once for print and once for web). I can't ever get the photo to look how I want for the web.
07/02/2009 02:41:26 PM · #7

Most printers and monitors are calibrated for sRGB. Convert your Adobe RGB files to sRGB before saving as jpegs. You will have no need to "proof" them - they will be in the correct colorpace.

07/02/2009 02:58:03 PM · #8
Originally posted by LindaLee:

Most printers and monitors are calibrated for sRGB. Convert your Adobe RGB files to sRGB before saving as jpegs. You will have no need to "proof" them - they will be in the correct colorpace.


scary realization: ive always thought sRGB and Adobe RGB were the same

Message edited by author 2009-07-02 14:58:17.
07/02/2009 05:48:06 PM · #9
indeed - they are not !~ ;)

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_space

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colorspace.png


07/02/2009 06:00:48 PM · #10
You can use the information on wiki to help you. If your pictures are primarily changing in the blues and greens then somewhere you are switching from Adobe 1998 to sRGB. The reds should stay relatively the same.
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