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01/22/2004 04:57:49 PM · #51
There are situations where a photo is dq'ed because of an oversight or mistake. Those happen.

There have also been situations in the not so distance past where it was a blatant rules violation, repeatedly. >:(

As a member of the site council, it is not fun for me personally to go through the pictures that are recommended for dq (though I did have a chuckle at that James Bond portion of the thread), because it is disheartening and discouraging to think that when I enter a challenge there are people cheating to win.

The easiest way not to have to deal with a bunch of dq's?
1) Be honest; follow the rules.

2) Know what the rules are.
01/22/2004 05:06:47 PM · #52
I would like all my 3's & 4 scoring shots to be disqualified! Not bc I cheated but bc they SUCK!
he he he! :)
01/22/2004 05:07:53 PM · #53
I'm not sure I understand this whole argument about the rules including the dates, editing etc. If people don't like the rules that are in effect here then the answer is simple, there are a ton of photography websites out there, if you don't like one move on to another it's that simple.

Every week I strive harder and harder to maybe someday win one of those beautiful virtual blue ribbons, I know that that ribbon would mean nothing to be if I knew the only way I could get it was by cheating, I guess I just don't see the point.

Shannon
01/22/2004 05:19:49 PM · #54
I'm sorry, but I still like the public flogging idea best. I even volunteered to test it, but noooooooo, the robot shot it down. :/
01/22/2004 06:31:42 PM · #55
A suggestion. What about a cheaters gallery. Put all the photos DQ'd in a gallery for all to see. Then we can see who the best cheaters are!

I'll say it again. If you feel the need to cheat on a internet contest where the only prize is a pat on the back, you lead a very pathetic life (and you're a loser). If the prize was a trip around the world, I'd understand the cheating, but you would still be lower then the scum on pond scum.
01/22/2004 06:36:35 PM · #56
I don't want to be in a 'Wall of Shame' :(
01/22/2004 06:37:19 PM · #57
Originally posted by Konador:

I don't want to be in a 'Wall of Shame' :(


Why? Have you been DQed in the past?
01/22/2004 06:38:19 PM · #58
Yep. I think a wall of shame will group the full-on cheaters with the people who simply didnt understand the rules, which I think is unfair.

Message edited by author 2004-01-22 18:39:13.
01/22/2004 06:40:37 PM · #59
Originally posted by mariomel:

Originally posted by Konador:

I don't want to be in a 'Wall of Shame' :(


Why? Have you been DQed in the past?

I have been too.
01/22/2004 06:43:21 PM · #60
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by mariomel:

Originally posted by Konador:

I don't want to be in a 'Wall of Shame' :(


Why? Have you been DQed in the past?

I have been too.


I guess the DPC rehab center must work then ;-0
01/22/2004 06:45:38 PM · #61
Originally posted by mariomel:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by mariomel:

Originally posted by Konador:

I don't want to be in a 'Wall of Shame' :(


Why? Have you been DQed in the past?

I have been too.


I guess the DPC rehab center must work then ;-0


I'm still accepting donations for financing further rehabilitation if anyone is kind enough to offer? :P

Message edited by author 2004-01-22 18:46:05.
01/22/2004 06:49:29 PM · #62
Originally posted by deafwolf:

I'm sorry, but I still like the public flogging idea best. I even volunteered to test it, but noooooooo, the robot shot it down. :/


Oh, don't get me wrong, there are definitely cases where the robot favors a public flogging! And more! But, you know, fairness and taking the higher road and blah blah blah.
01/22/2004 06:52:12 PM · #63
i've always wanted to see some sort of DQ gallery--not to tag or highlight the cheaters by any means--because many of the shots were DQ'ed for reasons other than deliberate cheating. I just think there have been some really fabulous shots that are no longer available for viewing..and i kinda miss 'em. :)
01/22/2004 07:13:24 PM · #64
I think a DQ Gallery would only encourage some people.
01/22/2004 07:29:47 PM · #65
Even though my curiousity gets the best of me sometimes, I dont think this site is about cheaters & therefore it I think there shouldnt be a DQed gallery. People cheat 'cause they think they can get away with it. I dont think a gallery will change that. Besides, it takes away from the integrity of the site &^ what is it here for.

Fun challenges for everyone!
01/22/2004 07:36:41 PM · #66
There are two problems with a cheater's gallery that I can think of:
1 Some of those were honest mistakes, as mentioned.
2 Some broke rules which have since been changed, so knowing the reason they were disqualified wouldn't teach us anything.

01/22/2004 07:44:31 PM · #67
I personally think that he who cheats will be cheated. So, if someone wants to cheat to win some illusional merit, then so be it. They get nothing out of it. If someone has to cheat to submit a photograph worthy of voting, then they will never learn to be a true photographer and only cheat themselves. That's the beauty of it!

I can't imagine why someone would want to cheat to win on this site anyway. You don't win anything tangible - pride maybe, but even that is false if they cheat. So their entire self will be a lie. I pitty that. What's the point of entering this site if you aren't going to learn anything?
01/22/2004 07:51:23 PM · #68
oh, i'm totally with you guys. i suppose calling it a DQ gallery was not the best choice of words... because i wasn't looking at it as a way to teach people a lesson--but merely for the lost art.

i was basically just lamenting the loss of some of the pics--konador's first entry, for example, and many more that i can't even think of off hand--but were fabulous. no big deal, i was just saying that i wouldn't mind having access to some of them. hm. how about having a *lost art* gallery? :) could be fairly cool.

Message edited by author 2004-01-22 19:59:11.
01/22/2004 07:58:43 PM · #69
Originally posted by brett2004:

...I can't imagine why someone would want to cheat to win on this site anyway. You don't win anything tangible - pride maybe, but even that is false if they cheat...


Those that consistently, intentionally cheat don't cheat to win, they cheat to cheat. The "thrill" seems to be the getting away with it. Taking "the hard line" on this is of course necessary, however it will not stop all the cheaters, but hopefully it will discourage all but the really hard-core ones. Thinking about that is a bit depressing; I'd rather focus on all of the positive things this site is about. It's a great "upper" to see and experience the learning that goes on here.

Here's to the Site Council on taking on a very difficult task, and doing it with great integrity [raises glass of orange juice in a toast].
01/22/2004 08:10:42 PM · #70
I can personally tell you that it is no fun to be DQed and be considered a "Cheater" When you know in your heart you did nothing wrong. I agree that rules are rules but one should not be castigated for an honest mistake.
01/22/2004 08:17:46 PM · #71
I can totally agree with that! My friend turned me on to this site, and it is awesome! And I personally think that a pat on the back is the best prize you could get. Because that pat on the back is from the population of fellow photographers.

The idea of posting the cheaters isn't bad, but maybe even put a mark on their profile would be better. "This person was DQed for..." I don't agree with giving them a gallery though. If the picture was validated as a cheat, then it should be omitted from the site. That way they have no fuel for their "thrill." And I can definitely see that they get a thrill from cheating and getting away with it. But those who get caught should be noticed by the community. My opinion.
01/22/2004 08:37:31 PM · #72
I don't think a "wall of Shame" is a healthy approach. I think if the photographer wants to show the picture in the forum for everyone to learn from it, they can.

I think all this cheater stuff is sad. I'm glad to see the rules being enforced.
01/22/2004 09:11:11 PM · #73
"Wall Of Shame", The civil liabilities would be HUGE. However it would be interesting to know where the DQ's are coming from the Open or Member challenges.
01/22/2004 09:22:52 PM · #74
how about listing the number of DQs (and maybe DQ challenges survived) on the profile.
01/22/2004 09:44:32 PM · #75
This is partially in on topic, I promise. I'm very new to the site, and... well let's just say that calling myself an "amateur" would even be kind when it comes to any kind of photography. I know that it has to be somewhere, and I've looked, but I must also now be blind! Could someone direct me to instructions on setting the date on your camera?

See, and you thought it wouldn't tie in. hehe
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