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06/22/2009 12:27:44 AM · #1 |
| soooo.... what's the best way to get a nice grain? pump ISO obviously... other than that? tips/tricks please =) |
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06/22/2009 12:29:14 AM · #2 |
| Besides that, you could try using some filters on your lens, or filter layers in Photoshop |
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06/22/2009 12:32:04 AM · #3 |
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06/22/2009 12:32:19 AM · #4 |
hmm.. what type of filter on my lens?
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06/22/2009 12:33:03 AM · #5 |
You could also use really low light with lots of dark area, then try to adjust it to show detail in the shadowed area. Talk about grain. I can't wait. I can do grain with the best of them. I could win. Well, not really. Last time I participated I did really bad.
Image Grain - The Original
Message edited by author 2009-06-22 00:37:00. |
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06/22/2009 12:33:09 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Shutter-For-Hire:
hmm.. what type of filter on my lens? |
Errr....Try some salt and pepper.....hehehehe!
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06/22/2009 12:35:07 AM · #7 |
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06/22/2009 12:37:54 AM · #8 |
I will probably just add it in post-processing.. is that not what most people do (besides ISO)?
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06/22/2009 01:40:57 AM · #9 |
I predict WhiteRook will win this in a landslide. Called it here first, he is the master
Message edited by author 2009-06-22 01:44:10. |
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06/22/2009 03:34:39 PM · #10 |
It's obvious that Langdon reads the forums, I'll say that: first challenge since I got a 5D in my greedy little hands, and the topic is "Image Grain"? Sheesh. 5D is the anti-grain machine...
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06/22/2009 03:37:03 PM · #11 |
ISO noise is sooooo ugly compared to image grain. It's also opposite in the sense the most noise is in the darks and least in the lights while film image grain is most in the lights and least in the darks.
I recommend adding it in PP. |
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06/22/2009 03:42:44 PM · #12 |
Silver Efex Pro is a nice plugin for emulating film grain. I haven't tried it myself but it might be worth a look. There's apparently a 15 day trial. Not sure if it watermarks the image or anything like some demos do though.
eta: The linky!
Message edited by author 2009-06-22 15:43:05.
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06/22/2009 04:39:17 PM · #13 |
| I like to shoot with a high ISO, convert to black and white, boost contrast, and then do multiple passes of Unsharp Mask to bring out the grain to what I like. |
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06/22/2009 04:47:38 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Citadel:
Silver Efex Pro is a nice plugin for emulating film grain. I haven't tried it myself but it might be worth a look. There's apparently a 15 day trial. Not sure if it watermarks the image or anything like some demos do though.
eta: The linky! |
It is the best black and white conversion filter I know at the moment, I use it for all my B&W conversions. Highly recommendable. |
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06/22/2009 05:00:30 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by Citadel:
Silver Efex Pro is a nice plugin for emulating film grain. I haven't tried it myself but it might be worth a look. There's apparently a 15 day trial. Not sure if it watermarks the image or anything like some demos do though.
eta: The linky! |
It is the best black and white conversion filter I know at the moment, I use it for all my B&W conversions. Highly recommendable. |
I'm guessing you used it for this shot?
If so, you've got me sold! :) |
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06/22/2009 05:08:58 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Citadel:
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by Citadel:
Silver Efex Pro is a nice plugin for emulating film grain. I haven't tried it myself but it might be worth a look. There's apparently a 15 day trial. Not sure if it watermarks the image or anything like some demos do though.
eta: The linky! |
It is the best black and white conversion filter I know at the moment, I use it for all my B&W conversions. Highly recommendable. |
I'm guessing you used it for this shot?
If so, you've got me sold! :) |
Yeah I sure did :) |
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06/22/2009 05:23:23 PM · #17 |
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06/22/2009 06:13:56 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
ISO noise is sooooo ugly compared to image grain. It's also opposite in the sense the most noise is in the darks and least in the lights while film image grain is most in the lights and least in the darks.
I recommend adding it in PP. |
Can we add image grain? Rules say we are not supposed to add what is not there. It is one thing to process to bring out the grain, but to add it would seem to be a rule breaker. Not that I don't think that adding the grain would not be a good idea. Today's cameras do their best not to have noise.
SC care to weigh in on this?
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06/22/2009 06:18:38 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by ambaker:
Can we add image grain? Rules say we are not supposed to add what is not there. It is one thing to process to bring out the grain, but to add it would seem to be a rule breaker. |
even in advanced editing?
Message edited by author 2009-06-22 18:19:01. |
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06/22/2009 06:28:07 PM · #20 |
Noise filters have always had their own special place as far as I know. Adding or removing noise has never fallen in the major element category. I don't think my shots came top 5 in the last two challenges so they weren't validated, but I'm pretty sure I've had this conversation before and it was deemed legit.
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06/22/2009 07:03:15 PM · #21 |
| I was having the same doubt regarding adding noise in Photoshop. Guess I will do it then... |
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06/22/2009 07:20:47 PM · #22 |
we'll be a bunch of photography zombies.. ::groans:: GRAAAIIINSSSS... GRRAAAAAIIIINSSSS
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06/22/2009 07:29:12 PM · #23 |
| Don't worry. If I know DPC there are going to be 10 arguments of "There is no grain at all on the blue ribbon!" for every "That's an illegal application of image grain!" |
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06/22/2009 08:41:11 PM · #24 |
If we all do it, they can't DQ us all, right?
OK then, onward! Never seen a challenge with no finishers.
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06/22/2009 10:12:34 PM · #25 |
Adding "noise" is legal even in basic - check out the basic ruleset:
Under you may..."No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur." |
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