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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:34:18 PM · #1 | 
		| | So I'm talking to a client last week when her mother suddenly states, "I'll need you to use a filter for every photo that includes me." Of course my first reaction is WTF, but I simply asked what type of filter she would like me to use. She got very frustrated and explained that the photographer on her last cruise offered to use a filter and the results were amazing. She was proud to also add that she only needed a #1 filter but that her mother looked great with a #2. She then looked at me as though I was completely incompetent and walked away to offer advice on another topic. I explained to my client that there would be an additional charge for every photo where I had to use a "filter". I know I can apply a skin softening filter in photoshop and then mask it to only affect her mother, but I still have no idea what filter had been applied on the cruise. Anybody actually pay attention to the cruise photographer so they can explain this to me?? 
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 ~ Dave
 
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:38:40 PM · #2 | 
		| | They don't PP on cruises, that's all about turnover. The "filter" will be a softening filter, it imparts a nice glow. #1 is weak, #2 medium, #3 extreme. Lemme dig up a shot I just made testing my new #1 and post it, hang on. 
 R.
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:40:17 PM · #3 | 
		| | I do believe it's the Distort > Spherize filter...  ;-) | 
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:43:18 PM · #4 | 
		| | dear god i could use some filtering today, can you stack the number 3 filters to make about a 12 filter???? | 
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:44:52 PM · #5 | 
		| | Smear tons of vasaline over a cheap skylight that'll make her skin look soft ;) 
 Haha should have given her the reply "Oh that would be a soft focus style filter it makes your skin look so much better than it actually is" LOL you might not have got the job though ;)
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:45:31 PM · #6 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Bear_Music: They don't PP on cruises, that's all about turnover. The "filter" will be a softening filter, it imparts a nice glow. #1 is weak, #2 medium, #3 extreme. Lemme dig up a shot I just made testing my new #1 and post it, hang on.
 
 R.
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 Thank you!! I get the feeling that I will find out, once again, that I am incompetent and this is one of those things that every real photographer knows.
 
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:45:31 PM · #7 | 
		| | If it's that bad ma'am we might be better off leaving the lens cap on for every shot? ;) 
 
 | Originally posted by JulietNN: dear god i could use some filtering today, can you stack the number 3 filters to make about a 12 filter????
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:47:07 PM · #8 | 
		| | Yeah, i would go with the lens cap on, even leaving  the camera at home might work out well too! | 
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:49:39 PM · #9 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Nusbaum: 
 | Originally posted by Bear_Music: They don't PP on cruises, that's all about turnover. The "filter" will be a softening filter, it imparts a nice glow. #1 is weak, #2 medium, #3 extreme. Lemme dig up a shot I just made testing my new #1 and post it, hang on.
 
 R.
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 Thank you!! I get the feeling that I will find out, once again, that I am incompetent and this is one of those things that every real photographer knows.
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 Nah, it's fairly esoteric unless you're a PPoA shooter LOL. I never actually used one before, but one of our members sent me his. It's pretty cool. Here it is; see how nice and soft the highlights are? Will be great for skin tones.
 
 
   
 R.
 
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:49:56 PM · #10 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Mark-A: If it's that bad ma'am we might be better off leaving the lens cap on for every shot? ;)
 
 
 | Originally posted by JulietNN: dear god i could use some filtering today, can you stack the number 3 filters to make about a 12 filter????
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 Make sure you charge extra extra $$$ to leave lens cap on.
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			|  | 06/09/2009 04:55:00 PM · #11 | 
		| | you all are so mean!! 
 I am having a bad week!!
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			|  | 06/09/2009 05:03:29 PM · #12 | 
		| | I'm searching B&H just to see one, but I don't think I could make myself screw one of those onto the end of my 70-200 2.8L. I almost teared up just thinking about it. 
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			|  | 06/09/2009 05:23:47 PM · #13 | 
		| | Here's a few shots I've taken using a Tiffen Soft Fx 3 filter... 
 
     
     
 They can come in handy at times.
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			|  | 06/09/2009 05:24:10 PM · #14 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Nusbaum: I'm searching B&H just to see one, but I don't think I could make myself screw one of those onto the end of my 70-200 2.8L. I almost teared up just thinking about it.
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 just throw on a UV filter telling them its a "soft filter" then do the adjustments on a PS. The lady sounds kinda like a b!%*h, huge pet peeve of mine is when some one is telling me what they want in a image but talking down to me like they know more about photography then I do.
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			|  | 06/09/2009 05:32:16 PM · #15 | 
		| | | Originally posted by bradshaw: The lady sounds kinda like a b!%*h, huge pet peeve of mine is when some one is telling me what they want in a image but talking down to me like they know more about photography then I do.
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 Yeah, me too...  Only they usually do.  But I'm not gonna let that stop me.
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			|  | 06/09/2009 05:37:14 PM · #16 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Nusbaum: I'm searching B&H just to see one, but I don't think I could make myself screw one of those onto the end of my 70-200 2.8L. I almost teared up just thinking about it.
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 Be brave! That lens is just too danged sharp for old ladies with alligator skin ;-)
 
 R.
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			|  | 06/09/2009 07:03:48 PM · #17 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Bear_Music: 
 | Originally posted by Nusbaum: I'm searching B&H just to see one, but I don't think I could make myself screw one of those onto the end of my 70-200 2.8L. I almost teared up just thinking about it.
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 Be brave! That lens is just too danged sharp for old ladies with alligator skin ;-)
 
 R.
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 Once again I'm reminded how much I don't know about photography. Thanks for pointing out the softening filters and the example. I've been readying about the options and now I'm wondering if I am better off with an actual filter on the lens or leaving the softening to post processing. As usual, there are opinions both ways. A number of people suggest that software filters don't match the affect of the original Ziess Softar filters.
 
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			|  | 06/09/2009 07:26:16 PM · #18 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Nusbaum: I've been readying about the options and now I'm wondering if I am better off with an actual filter on the lens or leaving the softening to post processing. As usual, there are opinions both ways. A number of people suggest that software filters don't match the affect of the original Ziess Softar filters.
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 I'd say yes, for portrait work. Remember you can shoot it both ways, then if the soft filter isn't what you want you have a sharp image to work on instead.
 
 R.
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			|  | 06/09/2009 07:58:40 PM · #19 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Nusbaum: So I'm talking to a client last week when her mother suddenly states, "I'll need you to use a filter for every photo that includes me." Of course my first reaction is WTF, but I simply asked what type of filter she would like me to use. She got very frustrated and explained that the photographer on her last cruise offered to use a filter and the results were amazing. She was proud to also add that she only needed a #1 filter but that her mother looked great with a #2. She then looked at me as though I was completely incompetent and walked away to offer advice on another topic. I explained to my client that there would be an additional charge for every photo where I had to use a "filter". I know I can apply a skin softening filter in photoshop and then mask it to only affect her mother, but I still have no idea what filter had been applied on the cruise. Anybody actually pay attention to the cruise photographer so they can explain this to me??
 
 Thanks again,
 ~ Dave
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 I had to laugh my ass off when I read this.
 
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			|  | 06/09/2009 08:07:39 PM · #20 | 
		| | I would go with a Godzilla filter. It does wonders... 
 
   
 You should've seen her before the filter was used!
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			|  | 06/09/2009 08:49:44 PM · #21 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Art Roflmao: I would go with a Godzilla filter. It does wonders...
 
 
   
 You should've seen her before the filter was used!
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 Is that a #2 or a #3?
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			|  | 06/10/2009 07:44:07 AM · #22 | 
		| | | Originally posted by eschelar: 
 | Originally posted by Art Roflmao: I would go with a Godzilla filter. It does wonders...
 
 
   
 You should've seen her before the filter was used!
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 Is that a #2 or a #3?
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 There can be only one.
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			|  | 06/10/2009 07:53:40 AM · #23 | 
		| | Hey I thought you said you were having a bad day JulietNN? Doesn't look that bad to me, although Art is very good with his post work ;) 
 Sorry couldn't resist... I'll go stand in the corner now!
 
 
 | Originally posted by Art Roflmao: I would go with a Godzilla filter. It does wonders...
 
 
   
 You should've seen her before the filter was used!
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			|  | 06/10/2009 08:19:32 PM · #24 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Nusbaum: So I'm talking to a client last week when her mother suddenly states, "I'll need you to use a filter for every photo that includes me." Of course my first reaction is WTF, but I simply asked what type of filter she would like me to use. She got very frustrated and explained that the photographer on her last cruise offered to use a filter and the results were amazing. She was proud to also add that she only needed a #1 filter but that her mother looked great with a #2. She then looked at me as though I was completely incompetent and walked away to offer advice on another topic. I explained to my client that there would be an additional charge for every photo where I had to use a "filter". I know I can apply a skin softening filter in photoshop and then mask it to only affect her mother, but I still have no idea what filter had been applied on the cruise. Anybody actually pay attention to the cruise photographer so they can explain this to me??
 
 Thanks again,
 ~ Dave
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 You know what I would of said to that B!tch, "Here's my #1 (using my middle figure), and tell her that there isn't a filter for ugly".
 
 
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			|  | 06/10/2009 08:25:33 PM · #25 | 
		| | | Originally posted by ben4345: "there isn't a filter for ugly".
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 LENS CAP!
 
 She's got the face......for radio!
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