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 03/29/2009 06:44:35 PM · #1
Howdy,

I know the rules state that borders are legal provided it is a clear border. You can't make vignettes though.

My usual technique for borders (as such) is making a 6 pixel stroke on a seperate layer and blurring it with guassian blur so it darkens the edges and gradually dissipates making the centre the focal point. Would this be legal in basic? I know it comes down to subjectivity as to whether it constitutes a "clear border" or not.

What you reckon?

I'm talking about a border like this:





03/29/2009 06:47:33 PM · #2
I don't believe that's legal, it is not clear and just looks like vignetting. "Clear" I would think would be defined as a hard edge, if this method were legal it would circumvent a lot of editing rules.
 03/29/2009 06:57:20 PM · #3
I dunno if it's legal or not, but I *LOVE* the shot of the pissed-off camel! LOL!!!
 03/29/2009 06:57:43 PM · #4
Bollocks. I was worried you'd say that.

Back to the drawing board!
 03/29/2009 07:02:12 PM · #5
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
I dunno if it's legal or not, but I *LOVE* the shot of the pissed-off camel! LOL!!!

Doubt if it is legal (I agree fully with AP). Suspect you'll be looking pissed off like this camel when the DQ rolls in.
 03/29/2009 07:04:03 PM · #6
yeah that camel shot is rockin!
 03/29/2009 07:34:25 PM · #7
And not to be an ass but can I get the SC opinion on this? Conjecture is all well and good but a defining line would be most appreciated.
 03/29/2009 07:36:09 PM · #8
I know of a shot that was DQ'ed for using a similar type border.....one that looked like a vignette. This will get you DQ'ed.

This is the photo I was thinking of. She used a buttonized black frame.


Message edited by author 2009-03-29 19:37:13.
 03/29/2009 07:40:11 PM · #9
Originally posted by Tez:
And not to be an ass but can I get the SC opinion on this? Conjecture is all well and good but a defining line would be most appreciated.


Send a ticket to SC with your before and after...and do it fast, before time runs out.
 03/29/2009 07:49:06 PM · #10
whether it's legal or not - the camel, and the shot of the man are VERY nice !!!


03/29/2009 07:51:09 PM · #11
Originally posted by Tez:
Howdy,

I know the rules state that borders are legal provided it is a clear border. You can't make vignettes though.

My usual technique for borders (as such) is making a 6 pixel stroke on a seperate layer and blurring it with guassian blur so it darkens the edges and gradually dissipates making the centre the focal point. Would this be legal in basic? I know it comes down to subjectivity as to whether it constitutes a "clear border" or not.

This is not a question of subjectivity -- you can't do this in Basic because you are not allowed to make that layer where you apply and blur the stroke. The only layers allowed in Basic are Adjustment Layers which contain no selections/masks.
 03/29/2009 08:38:40 PM · #12
well there we go.

Cheers!
 03/29/2009 08:45:32 PM · #13
what about doing it like this. It may not look the same as vignettes but on a dark picture its close.

this is just a quick sample.



1. Using the Marquee tool go around the outside of the image.
2. Goto Select > Modify > contract and use 20 pixels.
3. Now go back to Select > Modify > feather 20 pixels.
4. Goto Edit > Stroke 50 pixels - Centered.

All on the original layer.
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