DPCO IV-Alternate Scoring -- THIS WEEK OFF

03/04/2009 02:57:24 PM · #1

In honor of the special 1000th challenge and to encourage everyone to freely participate with their best shot from years past The DPC Olympics IV - Alternate Scoring will NOT include this challenge in the competition.

Effectively, there will be a week hiatus.

I'm not sure if the regular DPCO (or other competitive side-challenges) will also take this week off and encourage them do so, but if they do not, then we will be a week out of synch.

Scores from week#2 will be posted shortly in the regular thread.

Thanks!

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03/04/2009 02:59:59 PM · #2

Good news I think that makes perfect sense

03/04/2009 03:00:42 PM · #3

umm...why?

When we signd up for the DPCO we signed up for 8 consecutive weeks. No one expected to be able to pick and chose which weeks will count based on whether they like the challenges or not.

What would ever make you think that excluding the 1000th competition would be "honouring" the occasion? If you ask me it is a major insult!

03/04/2009 03:01:01 PM · #4

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

Good news I think that makes perfect sense

it is dumb.

03/04/2009 03:19:11 PM · #5

Originally posted by basssman7:

Originally posted by Lutchenko:
Good news I think that makes perfect sense

it is dumb.

Well if you have been into digital photography for years I guess you will have a huge selection to choose from compared to those who are new to this.

Whilst I accept that the 1000th challenge is a good idea I do think it would potentially disadvantage those who don't have a portfolio of 1000s of images to chose from as far as the olympic competition is concerned.

Just my opinion.

Lonni

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

03/04/2009 03:19:20 PM · #6

this doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, sorry. Particularly if the regular olympics is continuing regardless. Isn't this supposed to just be an alternate scoring of DD's tournament? I would have thought that the weeks that count would be guided by him. I have no real excitement about this week or anything, it's just that it doesn't make much sense to me.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

03/04/2009 03:22:38 PM · #7

If it's unfair to exclude this challenge then by the same token surely it's unfair not to be given the usual choice of two open challenges

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

03/04/2009 03:25:14 PM · #8

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

What you seem to forget is that we all continue to improve over time. Many photographers would see their past images and cringe in some form at how they should have done this or should have done that. I feel that very few entries will actually be from long, long ago. The majority, IMO, will be from within the last 18 months.

This is a challenge for celebration...so why be a killjoy in putting forth this protest. Enjoy it....and who knows...your current photo (just like many other current photos from members) may just take the jackpot.

As they say...you gotta be in it to win it. Imagine if you did enter with a current photo...and you did win or score highly...wouldn't you be pissed if your score didn't count.

Food for thought.

Dirt_Diver

Nikon D3s

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

03/04/2009 03:25:32 PM · #9

The regular DPCO is not going to be taking a week off. I had planned on 2 challenges but because it's open to everyone it's all game.

Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM

03/04/2009 03:26:14 PM · #10

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

Well if you have been into digital photography for years I guess you will have a huge selection to choose from compared to those who are new to this.

Whilst I accept that the 1000th challenge is a good idea I do think it would potentially disadvantage those who don't have a portfolio of 1000s of images to chose from as far as the olympic competition is concerned.

Just my opinion.

If you can take a good photo during a particular week to enter in a challenge, why would you not be able to either pick one that you took before, regardless of how many you have to choose from, or even take one this week, treating it like a FS?

I could just as easily whine and say "but it is not fair, I should not have to compete against all those Icelandic landscapes with the Northern Lights in them, let's not count those"!

Or the next time a "trees" challenge comes up like it did a few weeks ago I could say "but that is not fair, it is winter up here and the trees are all ugly and have no leaves, this should not count"!

We agreed to enter the DPCO IV knowing that it would be 8 consecutive weeks of open challenges. We did not reserve the right to choose which ones, or the subjects of those challenges.

So with all due respect, please just deal with it.

Alain

Nikon D7100

03/04/2009 03:27:17 PM · #11

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

If it's unfair to exclude this challenge then by the same token surely it's unfair not to be given the usual choice of two open challenges

I don't understand your point of view... instead of having to choose between 2 subject, you can submit whatever you want, whatever subject you want....

03/04/2009 03:27:38 PM · #12

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

If it's unfair to exclude this challenge then by the same token surely it's unfair not to be given the usual choice of two open challenges

That has no bearing. It is the same for everyone, so no one is losing a choice. If anything there is more choice because it is a FS, you can enter anything you want. What more choice could there be then that?

03/04/2009 03:27:53 PM · #13

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

The regular DPCO is not going to be taking a week off. I had planned on 2 challenges but because it's open to everyone it's all game.

Thank you. :)

03/04/2009 03:39:25 PM · #14

Judi, that is twice now in just a few days we have agreed on something!

THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

03/04/2009 03:41:15 PM · #15

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Ummm...I don't understand what you're trying to say here. How would the DPCO impact whether people "freely participate" or not? It's just another week. If anything this 1000th challenge will be generating MORE interest - what a great way to showcase this whole DPCO (& Alt Scoring) side event.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

03/04/2009 03:44:47 PM · #16

Look I don't have a problem in entering a pic in this weeks challenge and I don't really have any problem if it counts or not, I was just giving my opinion and that opinion is still that I would prefer not to have a FS count
but it's not my competition so hey.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

03/04/2009 03:47:03 PM · #17

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

... I was just giving my opinion and that opinion is still that I would prefer not to have a FS count ...

Hmmm. Missed that part. So that's the issue for you - you're afraid of some stiff competition? :-D

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

03/04/2009 03:47:06 PM · #18

Originally posted by basssman7:

Judi, that is twice now in just a few days we have agreed on something!

THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!

Yeah I know...I must be drunk from getting all those one votes...damnnn!!! We should have a challenge called Nudity, where no Nude people are allowed. Then I would get pissed and start arguing with you again...ROFLMFAO!! Now that would be an interesting challenge for the DPCO....as I wonder how many DNMC entries would end up in that one.....woohoo...I predict loads of low scores...hahahahaha!!!

03/04/2009 03:52:10 PM · #19

Originally posted by basssman7:

Not sure where you get "No one expected to be able to pick and chose which weeks will count based on whether they like the challenges or not." -- I intend to enter and think I'll do reasonably well.

This challenge is different from the rest for two reasons:

1. There is only one challenge instead of two -- and just because it's a free study doesn't negate that fact.

2. It has been put forth that the voting period might be extended to allow for more votes. This too would be a major difference from the DPCO format.

So we are still proceeding with 8 consecutive weeks of the same format. Since this week's challenge is not of that format, then it only makes sense to skip it.

Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM

03/04/2009 03:55:25 PM · #20

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Lutchenko:
... I was just giving my opinion and that opinion is still that I would prefer not to have a FS count ...

Hmmm. Missed that part. So that's the issue for you - you're afraid of some stiff competition? :-D

Whilst I have had some success in the open challenges, a 2nd and a top 10 finish, I have found the free studies to be considerably more dificult to do well in, therefore introducing a free study into the DPCO gives, IMO, an advantage to those very experienced photographers.

You can argue that they have an advantage anyway but I can get reasonable sucess in open challenges where the topic is specific but I can't even get close in the FS

Alain

Nikon D7100

03/04/2009 03:58:59 PM · #21

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by basssman7:
umm...why?

When we signd up for the DPCO we signed up for 8 consecutive weeks. No one expected to be able to pick and chose which weeks will count based on whether they like the challenges or not.

What would ever make you think that excluding the 1000th competition would be "honouring" the occasion? If you ask me it is a major insult!

Not sure where you get "No one expected to be able to pick and chose which weeks will count based on whether they like the challenges or not." -- I intend to enter and think I'll do reasonably well.

This challenge is different from the rest for two reasons:

1. There is only one challenge instead of two -- and just because it's a free study doesn't negate that fact.

2. It has been put forth that the voting period might be extended to allow for more votes. This too would be a major difference from the DPCO format.

So we are still proceeding with 8 consecutive weeks of the same format. Since this week's challenge is not of that format, then it only makes sense to skip it.

I must be dumb because I still don't understand your reasoning

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

03/04/2009 04:00:33 PM · #22

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

... So we are still proceeding with 8 consecutive weeks of the same format. ...

Messed up your code, eh? :-)

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

03/04/2009 04:00:42 PM · #23

Originally posted by Lutchenko:

So that is what this is boiling down to. If a challenge isn't seen as fair because you are put at a disadvantage, then it shouldn't count. But what if you were one of those 'experienced' photographers with 1000's of images to choose from? Would you be annoyed if someone tried to exclude the challenge from counting simply because they didn't want to go up against someone that has taken more images?

It only takes one image to win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03/04/2009 04:02:11 PM · #24

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
... So we are still proceeding with 8 consecutive weeks of the same format. ...

Messed up your code, eh? :-)

Not at all.. just being consistent. :)