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03/01/2009 09:45:41 PM · #1
I plan to join Mephisto's side challenge, and for my first trick: an old-fashioned, Quaker Oats pinhole camera.

I need some help shopping. I'll probably order from Ad*rama (masked lest Helen O'ster, the Ad*rama forum genie, show up).

The photographic paper I've chosen is this:
Ilford Multigrade IV RC Deluxe Resin Coated VC Variable Contrast Black & White Enlarging Paper - 5x7" - 25 Sheets - Pearl Surface

I hear it's easy to manipulate and good in multiple lighting conditions. And pearl won't reflect light like the glossy.

Also, I need help with the chemicals. For the developer and fixer, I hear Kodak chemicals are the best (Dektol for instance). I can choose between powder and liquid. Any thoughts? I don't expect to be developing very often, if that's a consideration.

What about stop bath? I read that I can use tap water or mix my own. Or I can order a dedicated chemical.

Thanks in advance for any guidance. This is all very new to me.
03/01/2009 09:54:09 PM · #2
The Ilford Pearl is a nice surface. The Dektol is a fine all-around developer. The liquid version is much easier/less messy to mix, but the powdered version has a much longer shelf life. Stop bath = acetic acid + water, I forget the concentration now. There are dedicated solutions, but acetic acid is fine. Some people just use plain water for the stop bath; you just have to change it frequently. An acetic acid stop bath can be left in its tray with a lid on it and sued for some time. If you're breaking down the darkroom after each session, that's obviously not much of an option. Anyway, acetic acid is cheap...

R.
03/01/2009 09:57:01 PM · #3
bvy-

wow, its been several years now since I have been in the darkroom, but from what I remember, Ilford paper came out pretty darn grany looking when processed in kodak chemicals. Directly through a pinhole, I doubt that this would be an issue, but if you are planning on also using film on this, I would hold out. May want to take a look at Rodinal by Agfa. Ilford and Agfa papers were definately my favorite- mmmm especially with neopan film- what a combo! get a dedicated chem for your stop- trust me its worth it. Kodak stop works fine here, its really not nearly as important as your developer.
03/01/2009 10:49:43 PM · #4
mmmm darkroom, I might get back in the dark room at my old school over Easter - that's if they let non-students use it!

I love doing the test strips for exposure, they're cool.
03/02/2009 10:31:38 PM · #5
Thanks to all so far.

B&H has Rodinal. Is it good for occasional use?

Also, what about fixer? Surely they're not all the same.
03/02/2009 11:05:05 PM · #6
honestly I have never used more than a kodak fix, so I dont know- its the developers that I have really played with. From my recollection, rodinal has a decent shelf life. Any fixer, after a while, will go bad- most of em are good for a bit though and rodinal holds true to that.

Let us know how it goes :)
03/03/2009 04:45:20 PM · #7
Okay, I'm about ready to order:

-Ilford Multigrade IV RC Deluxe Resin Coated VC Variable Contrast Black & White Enlarging Paper - 5x7" - 25 Sheets - Satin Surface

-Ilford Universal Paper Developer 500 Milliliter

-Ilford Rapid Fixer 500 Milliliter Bottle

Obviously I'll be making some local purchases also for this starter darkroom. I'll need trays, safelight... What else?
03/03/2009 04:51:19 PM · #8
You might look for, The Darkroom handbook By Michael Langford and Alfred A Knopf. I don't know if it's still in print.
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