Using new effects in a challenge....

02/28/2009 05:31:53 PM · #1

Question - mainly to site council but throwing it out there for you to chew on..

I have a freestudy entry in at the moment that was created using software that is under currently development. Now, if (and its a big if) I manage to somehow scrape the top 5 and I am asked for my original image and processing steps how would the SC validate these steps without the software? Granted the software doesn't do loads, its a refined tonemapping software quite akin to Topaz, however it does give the images a bit of `pop` and I love my freestudy entry for this month. To be honest I originally used Topaz on this shot but preferred this new applications result a lot more.

How does it work if the SC can't actually test the effect when looking at a validation created with non-available software?

cheers!

Message edited by author 2009-02-28 17:32:31.

LVicari

Canon EOS-50D

02/28/2009 05:42:40 PM · #2

I wouldn't chance it!! Pull the entry:)

02/28/2009 05:44:11 PM · #3

Originally posted by LVicari:

I wouldn't chance it!! Pull the entry:)

I am actually debating it and considering entering the (inferior) Topaz version.

LVicari

Canon EOS-50D

02/28/2009 05:48:27 PM · #4

Originally posted by Simms:

Originally posted by LVicari:
I wouldn't chance it!! Pull the entry:)

I am actually debating it and considering entering the (inferior) Topaz version.

I was half joking so the rest of us would have a chance!

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

02/28/2009 05:54:05 PM · #5

I'm with Leo. In fact, I suspect you probably shouldn't enter at all! :-)

Oh, wait. Mine is going to score rather poorly. Go ahead and enter. Make Leo sweat a bit... (bwaaaahaaahaaa!)

02/28/2009 05:59:25 PM · #6

It aint that good, hopefully top 30.. but hope springs eternal.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

02/28/2009 06:03:51 PM · #7

In all seriousness, you should be able to reasonably determine if it's "legal" - ie if it doesn't create anything "new" in the photo and meets all the other criteria for advanced editing. If the SC needs to validate it, can you provide a link to the software? And if it gets past beta, will you share that with the rest of us?

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

02/28/2009 06:05:00 PM · #8

Out of the box usually gets me a low score. LOL! I say go for it!

Yo_Spiff

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

02/28/2009 06:05:04 PM · #9

It's a fine line, but what have you got to lose? If it gets DQ'd post challenge, you will then know. Topaz and similar pugins are generally legal in advanced and I've seen many entries where an effect was applied that made an image look unrealistic. Maybe bounce the shot off someone who will agree to not vote on it.

tnun

Ricoh GR III

Pentax DA 18-135mm F3.5-5.6ED AL [IF] WR DC

02/28/2009 06:12:04 PM · #10

Enter it! I want to see it! I want to see it on the front page!

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

02/28/2009 06:47:05 PM · #11

While you've still got over a day, open a ticket, and attach the original for reference. Since Advanced is not tools-based but results-based, it does not matter what software you used, if the result is legal, it's legal no matter what path you took to get there and if it's illegal, no workaround should exist to make it legal.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

02/28/2009 06:50:07 PM · #12

kirbic, you don't look like Captain Kirk anymore! And rollover for the FS is at midnight east coast time tonight, given that February only has 28 days this year. :-)

Yo_Spiff

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

02/28/2009 06:56:24 PM · #13

Originally posted by Melethia:

kirbic, you don't look like Captain Kirk anymore!

He does to me, but I'm using the Greasmonkey script that shows me the profile pics. You are right though, the custom icon is gone and he's a plain blue shirt now.

Originally posted by Melethia:

And rollover for the FS is at midnight east coast time tonight, given that February only has 28 days this year. :-)

Oops, you are right. Somehow I thought that was tomorrow night. I had mine uploaded earlier in the week, though. Voting ought to be at a brisk pace, with rollover on the weekend this time.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

02/28/2009 07:57:32 PM · #14

Originally posted by Melethia:

kirbic, you don't look like Captain Kirk anymore! And rollover for the FS is at midnight east coast time tonight, given that February only has 28 days this year. :-)

That would be Captain Picard -- Captain Kirk had hair ... ;-)