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 02/11/2009 09:30:47 AM · #1
So way back when, I deleted all my photos into the trash. Now everytime I click the trash iPhoto freezes... There is more the 7000 photos in there and I want them completely off my computer... Can someone help me?
 02/11/2009 09:37:12 AM · #2
Locate the iPhoto Library and move it to the trash. That'll clear everything.
 02/11/2009 09:44:32 AM · #3
Ok ill try that when I get home! Thank you!
 02/11/2009 10:49:06 AM · #4
Originally posted by scalvert:
Locate the iPhoto Library and move it to the trash. That'll clear everything.


To complete the purge, rebuild thew library (quit iPhoto, hold down Command + Option keys while relaunching it again).
 02/11/2009 11:02:56 AM · #5
Or, you could just solve the problem by getting a PC.

...Sorry about that, but turnabout it fair play.

02/11/2009 11:05:11 AM · #6
Originally posted by yospiff:
Or, you could just solve the problem by getting a PC.
...Sorry about that, but turnabout it fair play.

That's not a solution. iPhoto doesn't work at all on a PC and there's no real equivalent.
 02/11/2009 11:11:11 AM · #7
In your opinion.
 02/11/2009 11:13:07 AM · #8
Besides, I was just posting that to be annoying. Every time someone has a problem with their PC, someone pipes in with "get a Mac".

I use both platforms and they both have good things and annoyances about them
 02/11/2009 11:42:43 AM · #9
Originally posted by scalvert:
iPhoto doesn't work at all on a PC and there's no real equivalent.


I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac. So what's good about iPhoto? I read about the visage recognition thing, but I don't think that would be useful to me. What else?
 02/11/2009 01:42:30 PM · #10
Originally posted by MistyMucky:
Originally posted by scalvert:
iPhoto doesn't work at all on a PC and there's no real equivalent.


I'm toying with the idea of getting a Mac. So what's good about iPhoto? I read about the visage recognition thing, but I don't think that would be useful to me. What else?


I've got a collection of photo/asset management tools that I've collected over the years, including iView Media Pro, Aperture, Lightroom, etc. Despite the fact that most of these tools are quiet powerful (and expensive), I still find myself putting photos into iPhoto for both professional and personal work. It is simple, yet amazingly affective, for managing a library of photos. I also use it with customers for browsing proofs and doing image selections. The full screen slide show looks amazing and features very smooth transitions. Navigation and rating of images is simple and can be driven by the keyboard as well as with the mouse.

I'm not saying there aren't better tools available, but the fact that I keep falling back to this despite having access to "better" solution suggests that there is something here worth looking at.
 02/11/2009 01:46:51 PM · #11
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
I've got a collection of photo/asset management tools that I've collected over the years, including iView Media Pro, Aperture, Lightroom, etc. Despite the fact that most of these tools are quiet powerful (and expensive), I still find myself putting photos into iPhoto for both professional and personal work.

Same here (I have iView, Extensis Portfolio and Aperture, but not Lightroom). I've tried to push myself toward Aperture, but iPhoto has worked better for me.
 02/11/2009 01:52:36 PM · #12
I've been trying to push myself toward Lightroom or Aperature, but haven't decided what I really need yet. I just need something to batch change, similar to Digital Photo Professional...
 02/11/2009 02:01:30 PM · #13
Hmmm, have Aperture, but haven't yet tried the iPhoto. (Still new to "this side". :)
And lovin' it, I might add! (I find myself not using the mouse pad on a laptop PC correctly anymore, lol! What a dummy, hehehehehe!
 02/11/2009 02:05:00 PM · #14
Not to hijack...

but what's the difference between aperture and lightroom (in the OSX light)?

Message edited by author 2009-02-11 14:05:16.
 02/11/2009 02:59:56 PM · #15
Originally posted by goinskiing:
Not to hijack...

but what's the difference between aperture and lightroom (in the OSX light)?


I've got both and am using neither (heavy sigh). Both solutions address the same need with slightly different approaches. Lightroom has a slightly more regimented process with different panels for different phases of workflow. Aperture is a little more free flowing in the workflow. I'm sure there are lists that compare the capabilities of each, but I think they only way to decide which is best for you is to try them and see which works better for you.

I have some personal issues with the RAW processing from both of these solutions. In one case I shot an outdoor wedding and found some 'abrupt' transitions between tones, such as from a persons skin to the blue sky in the background. I did some research and found a lengthy discussion with an Adobe engineer about changes in the RAW processing, to address performance, and how it might affect the appearance of edges. Lightroom is very popular with a lot of pros, so I'm in the minority, but I don't like it's treatment of edges. I also did some work with a model in a wonderful deep red dress and found the aperture completely fell on it's face and turned the deep red into a putrid magenta. After these experiences I fell back to either using Canon DPP or Capture One 4 to handle my RAW conversion.
 02/11/2009 03:03:48 PM · #16
I like Aperture, but sometimes use iphoto--great for quick edits, putting together web page galleries, emailing and such. It has a pretty decent editing suite, too.
 02/11/2009 04:35:07 PM · #17
Originally posted by chromeydome:
I like Aperture, but sometimes use iphoto--great for quick edits, putting together web page galleries, emailing and such. It has a pretty decent editing suite, too.

My biggest issues with Aperture are deleting files and creating DVD backups. With iPhoto, you can simply select photos and hit the delete key, and backups are as simple as selecting the images you want and hitting Burn. With Aperture, I have to either flag the photo as rejected or do them one at a time, hit delete and then confirm that I wanted to delete them. Burning a DVD means setting up a "vault." I could do without the extra steps.
 02/11/2009 04:45:14 PM · #18
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by chromeydome:
I like Aperture, but sometimes use iphoto--great for quick edits, putting together web page galleries, emailing and such. It has a pretty decent editing suite, too.

My biggest issues with Aperture are deleting files and creating DVD backups. With iPhoto, you can simply select photos and hit the delete key, and backups are as simple as selecting the images you want and hitting Burn. With Aperture, I have to either flag the photo as rejected or do them one at a time, hit delete and then confirm that I wanted to delete them. Burning a DVD means setting up a "vault." I could do without the extra steps.


If your burning DVD's as backup I would just skip the vault and burn your Aperture library as is. If you don't like how Aperture manages files don't let it, just bring them all in as referenced files and leave them where they are, that allows you to organise them as you see fit.

For deleting you can select multiple photos using the usual methods and then hit command delete, it does confirm but not a huge issue if you're doing 20 or so at a time. I prefer the reject method though, it lets me run through all my shots I've just imported and use the + / - keys to rate them or reject them as I go along.

Mind you, I'm a big fan of Aperture (as you can probably tell), and have never spent much time in iPhoto, so I can't really compare them.
 02/11/2009 04:50:04 PM · #19
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
If your burning DVD's as backup I would just skip the vault and burn your Aperture library as is. If you don't like how Aperture manages files don't let it, just bring them all in as referenced files and leave them where they are, that allows you to organise them as you see fit.

My Aperture Library is a LOT bigger than a DVD. With iPhoto, I can select 4GB of keepers from a photo shoot or vacation and burn DVD backups (no need to create a vault).
 02/11/2009 04:50:06 PM · #20
I've seriously been contemplating either Lightroom or Aperture and I'm about split down the middle with a slight leaning towards Aperture for workflow reasons, just need to figure it out and save up a bit.
 02/11/2009 05:11:00 PM · #21
I use aperture, and all the files in my library are referenced files. I have them organized on my disc in folders by date. When i want to burn a backup of originals, I don't even have to use Aperture, I can do it OSX.
 02/11/2009 05:13:08 PM · #22
Aperture is good for more editing, imo--plus adding the nik plugins (silver efx, color efx, sharpen pro, viveza, dfine) make it very powerful. To me, Aperture is more intuitive: no layer/opacity/flattening stuff to figure out. If you want to do a lot of masking and composite images, Aperture won't do that directly (but I don't think LR does either).

I think organizing is a bit tricky in Aperture--I keep all my files separate, but once I import an image and edit it in a "project", I can't seem to find a way to COPY that edited image to another project. I can Move it just fine, but if I want to copy images from several different projects into a new project, well, no joy so far.

I wanted to publish several images to a web gallery direct from Aperture, but it was not as user friendly as I thought it should be. I eventually just exported to jpegs, imported the jpegs into iphoto and had the gallery online in minutes from that point.

Aperture is a great tool for workflow, editing/processing the RAW files, and I really like it. But, as scalvert says, iPhoto works better for some of the external outputing/saving things.

Oh, I highly recommend downloading the BorderFX plugin for aperture--really helps with applying watermarks or text copyright notices when exporting.
 02/11/2009 05:14:54 PM · #23
for backup, though, I do what sjl2116 describes: I keep all my images organized outside, and then I let Time Machine back em up for me.
 02/11/2009 05:16:36 PM · #24
Originally posted by sjl2116:
I use aperture, and all the files in my library are referenced files. I have them organized on my disc in folders by date. When i want to burn a backup of originals, I don't even have to use Aperture, I can do it OSX.


This is what I'm looking to do right here. Perfect. I have SO many RAW files and each time I do a shoot it's literally hundreds of RAW images and I'm feeling a tad overwhelmed with. I've just heard the workflow for converting RAW is pretty smooth with Aperture.

To the OP, did you get the library thing worked out okay?
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