Notes on the Artwork Rule - DPChallenge Forums

12/11/2008 11:36:04 PM · #653

never mind...

Message edited by author 2008-12-12 01:00:59.

glad2badad

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12/11/2008 11:47:33 PM · #654

Originally posted by chromeydome:

Dec 9th 2:03 PM

Alan already stated the new interpretation of the existing rule. Why not add this wording to the existing rule and move forward?

Originally posted by alanfreed:
If the artwork/photo within the submission is realistic AND important enough that voters are likely judging the photographic qualities of the elements within that art as if they were real, then it's a problem.

Still subjective and easily interpreted several ways...not much better than the current wording IMO.

Basically this potential rewrite says that "If the artwork/photo"..."judged...as if...real" - meaning if the voter was fooled. That argument has been batted around in this thread without a majority agreement.

Also, "If the artwork"... - what is artwork? Define that subjectively without any grey area.

Try to make changes to the existing rule, in a firm concrete way, that pleases everyone, is not likely to happen. Someone, at some point, will cross the new line and this event (DQ & discussion thread) will repeat itself.

sempermarine

Apple iPhone 5s

12/11/2008 11:52:19 PM · #655

If nothing else this thread has afforded us a new challenge idea:

Futility

12/11/2008 11:52:54 PM · #656

never mind

Message edited by author 2008-12-12 01:00:28.

12/11/2008 11:53:28 PM · #657

never mind

Message edited by author 2008-12-12 00:59:56.

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12/12/2008 01:00:53 AM · #658

What would be the difficulty in saying if a DQ is not unanimous by the SC, that it goes up for a simple popular vote (i.e. just use a poll)?

togtog

Nikon D300

12/12/2008 01:05:56 AM · #659

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

What would be the difficulty in saying if a DQ is not unanimous by the SC, that it goes up for a simple popular vote (i.e. just use a poll)?

I like this suggestion. The SC could attach a note about what the issue seems to be and let the members decide.

12/12/2008 01:39:02 AM · #660

Originally posted by togtog:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
What would be the difficulty in saying if a DQ is not unanimous by the SC, that it goes up for a simple popular vote (i.e. just use a poll)?

I like this suggestion. The SC could attach a note about what the issue seems to be and let the members decide.

Seems like it would be simple to implement and would help avoid angering the masses who threaten to storm the gates of the SC palace.

I'd note also, that like chromeydome, I don't care that much about this particular DQ or even the rule or the debate about it, but I too, am disappointed by the attitudes of a few of the SC. All due respect and appreciation for the positive contributions, though. Just seems like it's time to pass your key to the SC lounge to someone else if you've reached the point of being overly cynical.

...and no, I don't want the key. I can break in whenever I like and steal donuts. I'm good.

12/12/2008 01:44:59 AM · #661

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by togtog:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
What would be the difficulty in saying if a DQ is not unanimous by the SC, that it goes up for a simple popular vote (i.e. just use a poll)?

I like this suggestion. The SC could attach a note about what the issue seems to be and let the members decide.

Seems like it would be simple to implement and would help avoid angering the masses who threaten to storm the gates of the SC palace.

I'd note also, that like chromeydome, I don't care that much about this particular DQ or even the rule or the debate about it, but I too, am disappointed by the attitudes of a few of the SC. All due respect and appreciation for the positive contributions, though. Just seems like it's time to pass your key to the SC lounge to someone else if you've reached the point of being overly cynical.

...and no, I don't want the key. I can break in whenever I like and steal donuts. I'm good.

Ahh so that was you leaving that mouse trail...sheez...I had to hide in the corner until you left!!

crayon

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

12/12/2008 01:50:51 AM · #662

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

What would be the difficulty in saying if a DQ is not unanimous by the SC, that it goes up for a simple popular vote (i.e. just use a poll)?

this works only for after-voting-period entries, but it's not a bad idea.
the SC can continue to moderate forums and perform CSI on the originals, and other policing work.

12/12/2008 01:52:30 AM · #663

Originally posted by Judi:

Ahh so that was you leaving that mouse trail...sheez...I had to hide in the corner until you left!!

Next time, we can sneak in together so I can get some shots of you contorting around the laserbeams in your black spandex. :)

12/12/2008 01:54:20 AM · #664

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Judi:
Ahh so that was you leaving that mouse trail...sheez...I had to hide in the corner until you left!!

Next time, we can sneak in together so I can get some shots of you contorting around the laserbeams in your black spandex. :)

Wahooo...now that would upset some of the SC members....you are sooooooo nasty!!! LMAO!

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12/12/2008 01:54:50 AM · #665

Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
What would be the difficulty in saying if a DQ is not unanimous by the SC, that it goes up for a simple popular vote (i.e. just use a poll)?

this works only for after-voting-period entries, but it's not a bad idea.

That's typically only when it becomes a hotly contraversial issue, so I think it would work well. It's not a major change and it would allow the members to have a participating role in these decisions.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

12/12/2008 01:55:50 AM · #666

Originally posted by Judi:

Wahooo...now that would upset some of the SC members....you are sooooooo nasty!!! LMAO!

Nonsense -- we never get upset about anything ...

12/12/2008 01:57:21 AM · #667

Anyways...to keep this thread on track (don't want to get into tooooo much trouble!!!!) There are obvious issues with the members agreeing with some of the rule explanations,...a\nd obviously SC can't agree on them either...so how about a poll is put together finding out what members/SC think may work...and this includes the 'wording' of such rules!!!

12/12/2008 01:58:07 AM · #668

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Judi:
Wahooo...now that would upset some of the SC members....you are sooooooo nasty!!! LMAO!

Nonsense -- we never get upset about anything ...

LMAO!!! Don't tempt me Sir General!!! Hey Art...where's that Spandex???

12/12/2008 02:01:14 AM · #669

Originally posted by Judi:

LMAO!!! Don't tempt me Sir General!!! Hey Art...where's that Spandex???

*embarassed look* Um, I'm wearing it. Sorry, it just looked so comfy.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Judi:
Wahooo...now that would upset some of the SC members....you are sooooooo nasty!!! LMAO!

Nonsense -- we never get upset about anything ...

Um, I seem to recall you personally ordering the arrest of one of the peasants who snuck into the SC Lounge and broke your coffee cup...

12/12/2008 02:02:41 AM · #670

So what do you think of my suggestion, General?

12/12/2008 02:41:09 AM · #671

Black spandex
Laser beams
Contortion
Judi

This thread is finally headed in a positive & intriguing direction :-)