Site Council change - DPChallenge Forums

12/09/2008 01:35:40 PM · #26

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:
The job of list admin/forum moderator/SC is not any bowl of cherries and generally involves having to make decisions that are unpopular, involves no pay, and is pretty much flat guaranteed to garner you insults and character assassination by the nature of the position.

You're sugar coating it.

SC always omits any reference to the non-monetary compensation: the weekly massages, annual Carribean spa retreat, limousine service and free beer just to name a few.

SC Clubhouse

The SC has to keep a low public profile on the outside, but check out this interior shot.

12/09/2008 01:48:17 PM · #27

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

The SC has to keep a low public profile on the outside, but check out this interior shot.

That's just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong! ROFL!!!

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

12/09/2008 01:53:18 PM · #28

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:
The SC has to keep a low public profile on the outside, but check out this interior shot.

That's just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong! ROFL!!!

Such a vulgar display of wealth by the SC, and in this economy too.

Next thing you know, they'll be taking the SC's Gulfstream to Washington to ask for a bailout.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

12/09/2008 01:54:13 PM · #29

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

That's just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong! ROFL!!!

Don't laugh -- YOU might be wrong ... ;-)

12/09/2008 01:58:20 PM · #30

IN the spirit of DPC rules I suggest to the three of you, if you have nothing to add to the actual discussion to please take your comments elsewhere.

Matt

12/09/2008 02:01:14 PM · #31

Originally posted by MattO:

IN the spirit of DPC rules I suggest to the three of you, if you have nothing to add to the actual discussion to please take your comments elsewhere.

Matt

Wow.....

I hope you get what you want out of this little pissing contest you're looking for....

Have a nice day.....

12/09/2008 02:03:47 PM · #32

This is not a pissing contest, this is a website suggestion I feel has some merit and could benefit the community. If you dont feel it does you can suggest why it doesnt or does have merit. However hijacking a thread of a member who feels they have something to add to the over all experience is rude and in poor taste.

Matt

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

12/09/2008 02:13:31 PM · #33

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
I do like the time limit suggestion. Say what like 4 years in, goodbye?

Why? I think having people with experience of how DPChallenge started and has changed over the years is a good thing.

That's why I suggested a poll. So we can get the votes of other people beside you and myself.

scarbrd

Leica M10

12/09/2008 02:15:22 PM · #34

Originally posted by TrollMan:

I don't see any reason for change. The SC we have are IMO doing a great job. I.e. If it ain't broken, don't mess with it! :)

SC suck up ;-)

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II

12/09/2008 02:19:22 PM · #35

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

That's why I suggested a poll. So we can get the votes of other people beside you and myself.

Good idea.......we do polls.

toddhead

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

12/09/2008 02:19:27 PM · #36

Good gravy... don't you think you are getting a little carried away? I think having stability in the SC is a good thing. Voting on and changing the SC every year or couple of years would be the beginning of the end of this site. Some claim the challenges are a popularity contests and I can't even begin to imagine what would happen if we actually had to vote for the SC... Would there be campaigning? Would we get to know everyone's stance on editing before we voted? It would be a mess...

I know losing a virtual ribbon can really ruin one's day, but it doesn't mean we should trash everything and start over.

12/09/2008 02:19:28 PM · #37

Originally posted by TrollMan:

I don't see any reason for change. The SC we have are IMO doing a great job. I.e. If it ain't broken, don't mess with it! :)

We get the option of a new president every 4 years why can't we get new SC members? Why does it have to be broke to get fixed? Don't think of it as being broke think of it as an upgrade.
I don't think anyone said that SC wasn't doing a good job but I'm sure there are other people that would like to take part in the SC community.

sfalice

Canon PowerShot SX60 HS

12/09/2008 02:20:50 PM · #38

An auxiliary site council?
Sure, but only if they get a MUCH bigger clubhouse
and very special privileges.

Seriously? No, the one we've got does a fine job.
:-))

12/09/2008 02:21:58 PM · #39

Originally posted by toddhead:

Would there be campaigning?

No the decision would be up to D&L just like it was with the rest of the applicants when they applied for the position.

12/09/2008 02:23:29 PM · #40

Originally posted by toddhead:

Did you read my post? I've not once suggested getting rid of the current council. I have no beef with them. Hell I've not ribboned nor will I ever. But I do think adding some people with new thoughts and ways of looking at things every once in a while is a great idea. You dont, great but at least lets consider ways of putting new eyes on things every now and then.

Matt

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

12/09/2008 02:24:34 PM · #41

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

I don't think anyone said that SC wasn't doing a good job but I'm sure there are other people that would like to take part in the SC community.

And it would serve them right.

I guess having been there in that job on a pretty volatile website, and knowing how much it can work on you makes me more aware of just how much grief goes with the task.

You wouldn't believe how some people think nothing of tearing you a new.....one for the most imagined of slights.

I think there wqould definitely have to be some kind of vetting process to determine if the possible candidate was qualified to do the job.

A popularity contest simply won't be enough to determine the preparedness of the candidate.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

12/09/2008 02:29:20 PM · #42

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Originally posted by toddhead:
Would there be campaigning?

No the decision would be up to D&L just like it was with the rest of the applicants when they applied for the position.

Then how is that site chosen, which is what I understood MattO's original suggestion to be? For that matter, how is that different from now. SC has imput, but if D&L wanted to supercede that decision, they can.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

12/09/2008 02:35:41 PM · #43

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Originally posted by toddhead:
Would there be campaigning?

No the decision would be up to D&L just like it was with the rest of the applicants when they applied for the position.

Then how is that site chosen, which is what I understood MattO's original suggestion to be? For that matter, how is that different from now. SC has imput, but if D&L wanted to supercede that decision, they can.

That's just about the same thing I said so I'm not sure what or who your talking too Todd or me but okay, :)

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

12/09/2008 02:37:54 PM · #44

Originally posted by MattO:

But I do think adding some people with new thoughts and ways of looking at things every once in a while is a great idea.

I think that's called the "Forums" here -- think of it as a "committee of the whole" where every single one of you is able to publicly express your opinion on just about any subject.

Unless you are suggesting a change in who gets to make decisions I don't see the need for any further sub-divisions than Registered Users and Paid Members.

12/09/2008 02:42:26 PM · #45

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by MattO:
But I do think adding some people with new thoughts and ways of looking at things every once in a while is a great idea.

I think that's called the "Forums" here -- think of it as a "committee of the whole" where every single one of you is able to publicly express your opinion on just about any subject.

Unless you are suggesting a change in who gets to make decisions I don't see the need for any further sub-divisions than Registered Users and Paid Members.

I am suggesting just that.........people who make the decisions that effect us all. That is why I suggested adding some SC seats that instead of being hand picked are nominated and voted on by the forum users.

I feel there are some great people in this forum who care deeply about the site and are passionate about the site who I feel have ideas and thoughts that would benefit us all by being in a position where rather then suggesting something, have a say in getting it done. Sort of representative of the people chosen by the people.

Matt

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

12/09/2008 02:57:39 PM · #46

Originally posted by karmat:

... but if D&L wanted to supercede that decision, they can.

Nail on the head. DPChallenge is a business, not a democracy. Your vote (talking to anyone reading this) is the $25 renewal that includes many nice perks. Really...think about it. In the overall scheme of things D&L do a great job of listening to the DPC community and make changes, offer polls for feedback before making major updates, etc...

12/09/2008 03:10:36 PM · #47

Originally posted by MattO:

I feel there are some great people in this forum who care deeply about the site and are passionate about the site who I feel have ideas and thoughts that would benefit us all by being in a position where rather then suggesting something, have a say in getting it done. Sort of representative of the people chosen by the people.

Matt

Who, besides you, would you nominate?

Except for my DQ, the SC has done an excellent job, both in administering the site and implementing changes. All I see in your proposal is adding another layer to muddle a fairly clear path to the top. If there's a need for more SC members, I'm sure D&L and the current SC can add more.

12/09/2008 03:13:20 PM · #48

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by MattO:

I feel there are some great people in this forum who care deeply about the site and are passionate about the site who I feel have ideas and thoughts that would benefit us all by being in a position where rather then suggesting something, have a say in getting it done. Sort of representative of the people chosen by the people.

Matt

Who, besides you, would you nominate?

Except for my DQ, the SC has done an excellent job, both in administering the site and implementing changes. All I see in your proposal is adding another layer to muddle a fairly clear path to the top. If there's a need for more SC members, I'm sure D&L and the current SC can add more.

I would not nominate myself........I dont feel I could be objective enough in some cases. Of course I'm not sure anyone can. But publically pointing out who I feel would add to the site wont serve any purpose at this point. If you really want a small list I can send you one through PM.

Matt

chromeydome

Nikon D7000

12/09/2008 03:16:34 PM · #49

Well, I think the SC does a great job, under difficult circumstances, and often deal very patiently with some extraordinarily difficult individuals.

It's not like they are Evil Oppressive Management and We Must Form A Union To Oppose Them. If they need additional SC members to share the workload, that is fine. But an oversight panel seems out of place and unnecessary to me.

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