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11/28/2008 10:20:48 AM · #1
No matter WHAT you do, people bitch!!!

Thread after thread, people whine and complain that they don't get comments, then they turn around and complain that the comments aren't constructive, too short, aren't related in a technical way, the list goes ON!!!!

Now [user]K10D Guy[/user] has a special thread going on to accomodate the whiners who can't be bothered to just move on after they get one of his delightfully eclectic, and interesting and decide they don't like it.

Man, how sad is that?

I guess it's only a mater of time before there'll be a way to tag your entry with a "No Comments, Please" box.

As the recipient of a couple of the story comments, and I think they're freakin' AWESOME!

That someone would be willing to take the time to inject some humor and pathos into a challenge with comments is really something.....and people BITCH!?!?!?!?!?!?

I'm just plain flat sick of it!

From now on, if someone bitches about commenting, I'm going to report it as a mean and self-indulgent post!

Better yet, I'm going to go look at their stats and they better damn well be able to support their position, or I'll whine right back at them in the thread!

Okay.......I'm all better now.....rant off.

Seriously, what is the average voter supposed to think?

Comment, or not????
11/28/2008 10:34:06 AM · #2
Thanks for saying it Jeb. I'm sick of it too and I've developed this instinctive reaction to them, ignore thread.

I've noticed that the biggest whiners are the ones that expect their shot to do well and when they are not, they feel let down by the community and start a thread to ramble on about this and that. It's part of the learning process I think. The sooner you learn that you are not going to score high just because you love your shot and that everyone around you, in real life, has told you it was good too, the better off you'll be. The most untruthful critique you can get is from family members or friends. They all want to encourage us and that's ok but you need to be able to put that aside and judge for yourself if your photograph has what it takes to compete against the very experienced photographers here at DPC.

11/28/2008 10:35:46 AM · #3
I'm with you all the way on this. The situation is beyond pathetic.

R.
11/28/2008 10:56:14 AM · #4
Ummm... I'm still leaving comments. And I still appreciate all the comments I get (and TrollMan, I wasn't really giving you a hard time about yours on my one entry - I thought it a fair and appropriate response, and very much appreciate the follow-up comment as well.) I have two entries in now - on one I got a comment that it's too light (and on some monitors that does indeed appear to be the case) and on the other I have a comment that it's too dark, and that one is valid as well. All very good feedback, all very much appreciated.
11/28/2008 11:16:17 AM · #5
I don't get a lot of comments on my pictures and the ones that I do get I don't mind them at all for the most part they the (comments) are spot on or reflect the persons opinions giving them. Not everyone is the same and not all pictures are the same. When I give comments its because the picture moves me in some way or I want to let them know that I thought they did a good job (and that is just my opinion). I do not make technical comments as I am not technical enough to know what has been done to the photo. Remember if you give someone a million dollars they would complain because it was in pennies.
11/28/2008 11:28:58 AM · #6
Originally posted by cosprenks:

I don't get a lot of comments on my pictures and the ones that I do get I don't mind them at all for the most part they the (comments) are spot on or reflect the persons opinions giving them. Not everyone is the same and not all pictures are the same. When I give comments its because the picture moves me in some way or I want to let them know that I thought they did a good job (and that is just my opinion). I do not make technical comments as I am not technical enough to know what has been done to the photo. Remember if you give someone a million dollars they would complain because it was in pennies.


I would. First of all it is illegal in Canada to pay something with more than 25 pennies in cash. The retailer has the right to refuse your money (pennies). Even if it is in rolls.

Where would you put 100,000,000 pennies? ;}

As for the topic at hand.

If you think about it, any comment has a message in it. Even if the comment contains 2 words or less. A comment comes from being inspired, positively or negatively, and we should learn to appreciate these reactions to our images instead of being hurt by the negative ones. I look at my past challenge entries and go over the comments sometimes and I realize that the ones that kind of pissed me off for whatever reason were in fact telling me something that wasn't apparent while I was so motivated about my great work of art, at the time. Looking back on your past work and the comments they received gives you a fresh POV to them and you may just learn something that passed you by when in voting.

Cheers
11/28/2008 11:43:25 AM · #7
Originally posted by cosprenks:

I don't get a lot of comments on my pictures and the ones that I do get I don't mind them at all for the most part they the (comments) are spot on or reflect the persons opinions giving them. Not everyone is the same and not all pictures are the same. When I give comments its because the picture moves me in some way or I want to let them know that I thought they did a good job (and that is just my opinion). I do not make technical comments as I am not technical enough to know what has been done to the photo. Remember if you give someone a million dollars they would complain because it was in pennies.
Originally posted by Jac:

If you think about it, any comment has a message in it. Even if the comment contains 2 words or less. A comment comes from being inspired, positively or negatively, and we should learn to appreciate these reactions to our images instead of being hurt by the negative ones. I look at my past challenge entries and go over the comments sometimes and I realize that the ones that kind of pissed me off for whatever reason were in fact telling me something that wasn't apparent while I was so motivated about my great work of art, at the time. Looking back on your past work and the comments they received gives you a fresh POV to them and you may just learn something that passed you by when in voting.

Cheers

It's been my experience that the comments I least want to hear are the ones I most need to consider.

Like this one: " marred, IMO, by the careless juxtaposition of the bench's leading edge precisely over the shoreline."

Funny part??? I didn't even notice that!!!! And it's dead-on right!!!

Now, I learned something from the comment, and it's a mistake that I won't likely make again (I hope! LOL!!!) and the best part?

Here's the rest of the comment where the viewer took a moment and pointed out the positive aspects of the image. Completely unnecessary and TOTALLY THOUGHTFUL!!!!

"A very serene image, nicely crafted in PP, marred, IMO, by the careless juxtaposition of the bench's leading edge precisely over the shoreline. Lowering the POV perhaps six inches would have resolved this issue."

Now THAT'S a comment!!!

The cold facts about the faux pas spelled out (unerringly) correctly, yet the sting of any possible slight taken off by thoughtful praise of the image's positive aspects.

Thank you very much, you know who you are!
11/28/2008 11:48:27 AM · #8
Originally posted by Melethia:

Ummm... I'm still leaving comments. And I still appreciate all the comments I get (and TrollMan, I wasn't really giving you a hard time about yours on my one entry - I thought it a fair and appropriate response, and very much appreciate the follow-up comment as well.) I have two entries in now - on one I got a comment that it's too light (and on some monitors that does indeed appear to be the case) and on the other I have a comment that it's too dark, and that one is valid as well. All very good feedback, all very much appreciated.

Thanks, Deb for jogging my memory of something else I wanted to say.

I will continue to leave comments when I can, and can stand my interminably slow dialup, because IMNSHO, I need to comment as much for myself, to do my part in return for all I get from this site.

Taking the time to examine images closely enough to try to leave a constructive comment teaches me as much about what I'm doing as anything else I can do for myself.

By viewing multiple different takes on a theme inspires me like nothing else can, and constantly opens my eyes to other points of view.

There is no downside to thoughful, conscientious commenting.

Even if somone doesn't like your comment, you've taken the time and effort.....that's a good thing.
11/28/2008 11:54:13 AM · #9
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Thank you very much, you know who you are!


You're welcome :-)

R.

ETA: Incidentally, that sort of observation kind of evolves naturally from a working lifetime as an architectural photographer, where otherwise excellent images can be utterly ruined by thoughtless juxtapositions; especially interiors, where things often have to be arranged asymmetrically to appear symmetrical from the camera's POV.



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