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11/26/2008 05:25:22 PM · #26
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by yanko:

I was thinking of making up my own super power (and super hero). Does anybody think that would be DNMC?


The yankinator?


No, nothing that powerful. :P
11/26/2008 05:30:41 PM · #27
Originally posted by yanko:

I was thinking of making up my own super power (and super hero). Does anybody think that would be DNMC?


I'd have no problem with it...


Being that it's not expert editing, I'd have to do some serious crunches to pull that off legally. So... I'm out. :/
11/26/2008 05:36:31 PM · #28
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by yanko:

I was thinking of making up my own super power (and super hero). Does anybody think that would be DNMC?


I'd have no problem with it...


Being that it's not expert editing, I'd have to do some serious crunches to pull that off legally. So... I'm out. :/


Chickern shit.....just beuild a big bon fire....put on a muscle shirt and stand reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal close to the fire! And don't forget the red cape and horns!
11/26/2008 05:54:07 PM · #29
Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by yanko:

I was thinking of making up my own super power (and super hero). Does anybody think that would be DNMC?


I'd have no problem with it...


Being that it's not expert editing, I'd have to do some serious crunches to pull that off legally. So... I'm out. :/


Chickern shit.....just beuild a big bon fire....put on a muscle shirt and stand reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal close to the fire! And don't forget the red cape and horns!


What if he photoshopped everything? It wouldn't surprise me if the real Art is just a pair of hands and a keyboard.
11/26/2008 06:28:42 PM · #30
Long time I did not read the challenge rules, and it seems that, from what I understand, multiple exposures (in camera) might not be allowed anymore.
I am not sure if I totally understood the rules correctly, so could anyone enlighten me about this: are multiple exposures allowed or not?
11/26/2008 06:52:38 PM · #31
Originally posted by Gabriel:

Long time I did not read the challenge rules, and it seems that, from what I understand, multiple exposures (in camera) might not be allowed anymore.
I am not sure if I totally understood the rules correctly, so could anyone enlighten me about this: are multiple exposures allowed or not?


You can combine multiple exposures for the purpose of correcting the overall exposure, reducing noise, etc so long as the basic scene remains unchanged. For example, bracketing several exposures of a landscape (i.e. one exposes for the sky and another for the foreground) and then combing those to form one HDR image. That's allowed. What you can't do is combine several exposures where each exposure shows a different composition or content. For example, you're not allowed to take several photos of a person moving around in a scene and then combine it all into one. Does that make sense?

Message edited by author 2008-11-26 18:57:15.
11/26/2008 06:56:30 PM · #32
Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by Gabriel:

Long time I did not read the challenge rules, and it seems that, from what I understand, multiple exposures (in camera) might not be allowed anymore.
I am not sure if I totally understood the rules correctly, so could anyone enlighten me about this: are multiple exposures allowed or not?


You can combine multiple exposures for the purpose of correcting the overall exposure so long as the basic scene remains unchanged. For example, bracketing several exposures of a landscape that exposes for the sky and another for the foreground separately and then combing those to form one HDR image. That's allowed. What you can't do is combine several exposures where each exposure shows a different composition/content. For example, you are not allowed to photograph say a person moving around in a scene and then combine it all into one. Does that make sense?


Just want to add that what Yanko described is only allowable in Advanced Editing and not Basic Editing rules.
11/26/2008 06:58:24 PM · #33
Originally posted by Larus:

Pfff, thx for the vote of confidence but I might not have time to even enter this one. Besides, I would think this would be a perfect opportunity to use the Expert editing rules, not even half of the superhero series you can find on my flickr stream would be legal in advanced editing...


Your FLickr's stream is more than amazing, diffinitly you would've benifitted from an expert editing, I've added you as a contact in there to go through your stream with a cup of coffee latter :)
Can't wait to see what you'll come with in this challenge :) all the best,
11/26/2008 06:59:15 PM · #34
Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by Gabriel:

Long time I did not read the challenge rules, and it seems that, from what I understand, multiple exposures (in camera) might not be allowed anymore.
I am not sure if I totally understood the rules correctly, so could anyone enlighten me about this: are multiple exposures allowed or not?


You can combine multiple exposures for the purpose of correcting the overall exposure so long as the basic scene remains unchanged. For example, bracketing several exposures of a landscape that exposes for the sky and another for the foreground separately and then combing those to form one HDR image. That's allowed. What you can't do is combine several exposures where each exposure shows a different composition/content. For example, you are not allowed to photograph say a person moving around in a scene and then combine it all into one. Does that make sense?


Just want to add that what Yanko described is only allowable in Advanced Editing and not Basic Editing rules.


True. I assumed he meant advance editing since the Superpower challenge is running under that ruleset but it's good to point that out.
11/26/2008 07:05:23 PM · #35
Originally posted by Larus:

Pfff, thx for the vote of confidence but I might not have time to even enter this one. Besides, I would think this would be a perfect opportunity to use the Expert editing rules, not even half of the superhero series you can find on my flickr stream would be legal in advanced editing...


Nice to see you have changed your mind on expert editing. I agree it would have been nice to see it especially for this challenge.
11/26/2008 07:48:34 PM · #36
Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by Gabriel:

Long time I did not read the challenge rules, and it seems that, from what I understand, multiple exposures (in camera) might not be allowed anymore.
I am not sure if I totally understood the rules correctly, so could anyone enlighten me about this: are multiple exposures allowed or not?


You can combine multiple exposures for the purpose of correcting the overall exposure so long as the basic scene remains unchanged. For example, bracketing several exposures of a landscape that exposes for the sky and another for the foreground separately and then combing those to form one HDR image. That's allowed. What you can't do is combine several exposures where each exposure shows a different composition/content. For example, you are not allowed to photograph say a person moving around in a scene and then combine it all into one. Does that make sense?


Just want to add that what Yanko described is only allowable in Advanced Editing and not Basic Editing rules.


Just clarifying further & don't know how useful this might be here, but the rules refer specifically to "captures". I believe that even in basic editing you may use a long "capture" and expose the the sensor manually multiple times, even changing the scene, to get effects like levyj413's Jefferson & Washington (tutorial here).


11/26/2008 07:53:08 PM · #37
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Holy Double Weenies Batman!
11/26/2008 07:54:56 PM · #38
Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by Gabriel:

Long time I did not read the challenge rules, and it seems that, from what I understand, multiple exposures (in camera) might not be allowed anymore.
I am not sure if I totally understood the rules correctly, so could anyone enlighten me about this: are multiple exposures allowed or not?


You can combine multiple exposures for the purpose of correcting the overall exposure so long as the basic scene remains unchanged. For example, bracketing several exposures of a landscape that exposes for the sky and another for the foreground separately and then combing those to form one HDR image. That's allowed. What you can't do is combine several exposures where each exposure shows a different composition/content. For example, you are not allowed to photograph say a person moving around in a scene and then combine it all into one. Does that make sense?


Just want to add that what Yanko described is only allowable in Advanced Editing and not Basic Editing rules.


True. I assumed he meant advance editing since the Superpower challenge is running under that ruleset but it's good to point that out.


That too is also true. I realized that after posting. I figured I would leave it as it was for anyone who didn't know. I pick up stuff here and there so why not. ;]
11/26/2008 07:57:13 PM · #39
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by JMart[url=//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=495497:

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Holy Double Weenies Batman!


rofl

I heard they're killing off Batman in the next issue and the killer is the original Robin! True this, google it.
11/26/2008 08:45:06 PM · #40
Originally posted by JMart:

Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by Gabriel:

Long time I did not read the challenge rules, and it seems that, from what I understand, multiple exposures (in camera) might not be allowed anymore.
I am not sure if I totally understood the rules correctly, so could anyone enlighten me about this: are multiple exposures allowed or not?


You can combine multiple exposures for the purpose of correcting the overall exposure so long as the basic scene remains unchanged. For example, bracketing several exposures of a landscape that exposes for the sky and another for the foreground separately and then combing those to form one HDR image. That's allowed. What you can't do is combine several exposures where each exposure shows a different composition/content. For example, you are not allowed to photograph say a person moving around in a scene and then combine it all into one. Does that make sense?


Just want to add that what Yanko described is only allowable in Advanced Editing and not Basic Editing rules.


Just clarifying further & don't know how useful this might be here, but the rules refer specifically to "captures". I believe that even in basic editing you may use a long "capture" and expose the the sensor manually multiple times, even changing the scene, to get effects like levyj413's Jefferson & Washington (tutorial here).


It might help if you explain the actual technique used in that photo. What levyj413 did was cover the lens during a long exposure which acted as a second shutter and that in turn create multiple exposures on one capture (i.e. 1 raw/jpg file). This technique has always been allowed under all rulesets.

Another trick along the same lines, which is legal in all rulesets is using multiple flash bursts in a dark environment. This is sort of the opposite of Jeffrey's technical above. He used his hand to cover the light getting to the lens in his photo where as here the lens doesn't need to be covered because it sees no light until a flash burst goes off.

There are much better examples of this but I'm too lazy to look so here is one I did a while back:



Message edited by author 2008-11-26 20:54:21.
11/26/2008 08:53:46 PM · #41
Originally posted by yanko:


It might help if you explain the actual technique used in that photo. What levyj413 did was cover the lens during a long exposure which acted as a second shutter and that in turn create multiple exposures on one capture (i.e. 1 raw/jpg file). This technique has always been allowed under all rulesets.

Yes, thanks for explaining that more clearly.
11/26/2008 10:36:08 PM · #42
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

ooh, I love challenges like this where I get a mental picture of a shot, but really don't know how to accomplish it. Now I get to tinker until I get it right. It's times like this where you actually learn about taking pictures.


OK, it's not quite as fun when your second attempt is worse than your first attempt and you don't know why you can't get the same results but improve on them... :(
11/27/2008 01:03:09 AM · #43
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

ooh, I love challenges like this where I get a mental picture of a shot, but really don't know how to accomplish it. Now I get to tinker until I get it right. It's times like this where you actually learn about taking pictures.


OK, it's not quite as fun when your second attempt is worse than your first attempt and you don't know why you can't get the same results but improve on them... :(


Try taking the lens cap off when you are underwater!!!
11/27/2008 10:29:59 AM · #44
Originally posted by yanko:



. What you can't do is combine several exposures where each exposure shows a different composition or content. For example, you're not allowed to take several photos of a person moving around in a scene and then combine it all into one. Does that make sense?


You can do this I think. For instance if you use 10 shots and the stars are in a slightly different position, added togther they will form a star trail, which I believe is legal?

Anyone?

11/27/2008 03:37:33 PM · #45
Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by Larus:

Pfff, thx for the vote of confidence but I might not have time to even enter this one. Besides, I would think this would be a perfect opportunity to use the Expert editing rules, not even half of the superhero series you can find on my flickr stream would be legal in advanced editing...


Nice to see you have changed your mind on expert editing. I agree it would have been nice to see it especially for this challenge.


Try working in the real world of advertising for the last 18 months, it´ll do that to you :)
11/27/2008 03:52:57 PM · #46
Originally posted by AlexSaberi:

Originally posted by yanko:



. What you can't do is combine several exposures where each exposure shows a different composition or content. For example, you're not allowed to take several photos of a person moving around in a scene and then combine it all into one. Does that make sense?


You can do this I think. For instance if you use 10 shots and the stars are in a slightly different position, added togther they will form a star trail, which I believe is legal?

Anyone?


I thought you can't do that as the scene has changed

You may not
"combine captures of different scenes, move or change a feature between frames, or combine different captures to create a new scene."
11/27/2008 03:59:19 PM · #47
Originally posted by bobonacus:

Originally posted by AlexSaberi:

Originally posted by yanko:



. What you can't do is combine several exposures where each exposure shows a different composition or content. For example, you're not allowed to take several photos of a person moving around in a scene and then combine it all into one. Does that make sense?


You can do this I think. For instance if you use 10 shots and the stars are in a slightly different position, added togther they will form a star trail, which I believe is legal?

Anyone?


I thought you can't do that as the scene has changed

You may not
"combine captures of different scenes, move or change a feature between frames, or combine different captures to create a new scene."


As far as I am aware it is mainly for exposure benefits. Example...Shooting one frame for the sky at sunset...and another frame for the foreground to allow for correct exposure across the two. You do need to ensure that the composition has not changed between the two frames...example, a yellow flower on the left of the image in the first frame...but the yellow flower on the right in the second frame....they need to be in the same location. Wind movement is taken into account.
11/28/2008 10:36:22 PM · #48
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

ooh, I love challenges like this where I get a mental picture of a shot, but really don't know how to accomplish it. Now I get to tinker until I get it right. It's times like this where you actually learn about taking pictures.


OK, it's not quite as fun when your second attempt is worse than your first attempt and you don't know why you can't get the same results but improve on them... :(


Hey, I just realized this post quoted was my 10,000 forum post. Woo hoo! Who wants a drink?
11/30/2008 04:20:11 PM · #49
Originally posted by yanko:

I was thinking of making up my own super power (and super hero). Does anybody think that would be DNMC?


I hope not because I have created the most coolest superest hero EVER! Stand by to be blown away at the awesomeness of....
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