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11/05/2008 11:24:28 PM · #1 |
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11/05/2008 11:30:28 PM · #2 |
| There are some really nice photos here. Thanks for sharing! |
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11/05/2008 11:36:58 PM · #3 |
| Those are gorgeous. This is my favourite. |
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11/05/2008 11:38:55 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Those are gorgeous. This is my favourite. |
How funny, that was my fave, too! |
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11/06/2008 12:47:41 AM · #5 |
Thanks so much for posting these.
They were all my favorites.
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11/06/2008 12:53:19 AM · #6 |
| Talk about some kickass photos, regardless of your politics the photos really captured the road he traveled. The rain shot is my fav though I agree with you Louis that the counter shot is pretty cool and a unique perspective. |
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11/06/2008 04:32:20 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Those are gorgeous. This is my favourite. |
Yup, I like that one too. He has a "gimee something to eat" look. He was probably starving. hehe |
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11/06/2008 08:07:18 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by fir3bird:
Originally posted by Louis:
Those are gorgeous. This is my favourite. |
Yup, I like that one too. He has a "gimee something to eat" look. He was probably starving. hehe |
Great shot.
Just look at the images folks, skip the comments. What a bunch of haters. |
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11/06/2008 08:33:26 AM · #9 |
Really great shots.
Gotta hand it to the US, they picked well.. Lets just hope he doesnt f**k up this amazing vibe that pretty much seems to be felt around the western world at the moment.
Not wanting this to turn into a rant, how would Americans feel if he decided to open dialogue with some of the more dubious groups in Iraq/Afghanistan etc.. The way the British did with the IRA and actually managed to get a result! Hell, why not get Tony Blair/Gerry Adams/Martin Mcguiness on board to advise? Surely continued violence isnt the answer from either side? There was no chance of Bush ever wanting to talk and reach an agreement, so maybe Obama is the man to help sort this whole mess out.
(edit - yes I know the British Government had to make a number of concessions, but lets face it, killing each other will NEVER get a desirable result, but ultimately, we have no more dead British Soldiers in Northern Ireland, no more dead civilians (men, women AND children) so surely swallowing a bitter pill sometimes does work?)
Message edited by author 2008-11-06 08:39:17. |
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11/06/2008 08:50:20 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Really great shots.
Gotta hand it to the US, they picked well.. Lets just hope he doesnt f**k up this amazing vibe that pretty much seems to be felt around the western world at the moment.
Not wanting this to turn into a rant, how would Americans feel if he decided to open dialogue with some of the more dubious groups in Iraq/Afghanistan etc.. The way the British did with the IRA and actually managed to get a result! Hell, why not get Tony Blair/Gerry Adams/Martin Mcguiness on board to advise? Surely continued violence isnt the answer from either side? There was no chance of Bush ever wanting to talk and reach an agreement, so maybe Obama is the man to help sort this whole mess out.
(edit - yes I know the British Government had to make a number of concessions, but lets face it, killing each other will NEVER get a desirable result, but ultimately, we have no more dead British Soldiers in Northern Ireland, no more dead civilians (men, women AND children) so surely swallowing a bitter pill sometimes does work?) |
Exactly.
If we never sat down to talk with our enemies how do you think WW I and WW II would have ended? |
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11/06/2008 08:54:47 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Simms:
Really great shots.
Gotta hand it to the US, they picked well.. Lets just hope he doesnt f**k up this amazing vibe that pretty much seems to be felt around the western world at the moment.
Not wanting this to turn into a rant, how would Americans feel if he decided to open dialogue with some of the more dubious groups in Iraq/Afghanistan etc.. The way the British did with the IRA and actually managed to get a result! Hell, why not get Tony Blair/Gerry Adams/Martin Mcguiness on board to advise? Surely continued violence isnt the answer from either side? There was no chance of Bush ever wanting to talk and reach an agreement, so maybe Obama is the man to help sort this whole mess out.
(edit - yes I know the British Government had to make a number of concessions, but lets face it, killing each other will NEVER get a desirable result, but ultimately, we have no more dead British Soldiers in Northern Ireland, no more dead civilians (men, women AND children) so surely swallowing a bitter pill sometimes does work?) |
Exactly.
If we never sat down to talk with our enemies how do you think WW I and WW II would have ended? |
Agree, in a way - but they were more `conventional` wars.. against a clearly defined enemy.. what we have in Iraq is many different groups fighting under an idealogy - which is far harder to defeat through conventional means. |
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11/06/2008 08:55:52 AM · #12 |
| wwII ended cause we did some major arse whuppin.... |
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11/06/2008 08:56:41 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Simms:
Really great shots.
Gotta hand it to the US, they picked well.. Lets just hope he doesnt f**k up this amazing vibe that pretty much seems to be felt around the western world at the moment.
Not wanting this to turn into a rant, how would Americans feel if he decided to open dialogue with some of the more dubious groups in Iraq/Afghanistan etc.. The way the British did with the IRA and actually managed to get a result! Hell, why not get Tony Blair/Gerry Adams/Martin Mcguiness on board to advise? Surely continued violence isnt the answer from either side? There was no chance of Bush ever wanting to talk and reach an agreement, so maybe Obama is the man to help sort this whole mess out.
(edit - yes I know the British Government had to make a number of concessions, but lets face it, killing each other will NEVER get a desirable result, but ultimately, we have no more dead British Soldiers in Northern Ireland, no more dead civilians (men, women AND children) so surely swallowing a bitter pill sometimes does work?) |
Exactly.
If we never sat down to talk with our enemies how do you think WW I and WW II would have ended? |
Agree, in a way - but they were more `conventional` wars.. against a clearly defined enemy.. what we have in Iraq is many different groups fighting under an idealogy - which is far harder to defeat through conventional means. |
It doesn't matter who the enemy is. If you're not talking to them you're never going to resolve anything. That's the point.
ETA: The logistics in the case of Iraq and Afghanistan will just be harder to work out.
Message edited by author 2008-11-06 08:57:54. |
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11/06/2008 09:01:29 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Simms:
Really great shots.
Gotta hand it to the US, they picked well.. Lets just hope he doesnt f**k up this amazing vibe that pretty much seems to be felt around the western world at the moment.
Not wanting this to turn into a rant, how would Americans feel if he decided to open dialogue with some of the more dubious groups in Iraq/Afghanistan etc.. The way the British did with the IRA and actually managed to get a result! Hell, why not get Tony Blair/Gerry Adams/Martin Mcguiness on board to advise? Surely continued violence isnt the answer from either side? There was no chance of Bush ever wanting to talk and reach an agreement, so maybe Obama is the man to help sort this whole mess out.
(edit - yes I know the British Government had to make a number of concessions, but lets face it, killing each other will NEVER get a desirable result, but ultimately, we have no more dead British Soldiers in Northern Ireland, no more dead civilians (men, women AND children) so surely swallowing a bitter pill sometimes does work?) |
Exactly.
If we never sat down to talk with our enemies how do you think WW I and WW II would have ended? |
Don't know about WWI but WWII was won with bombs, not dialogue. I can't remember Hitler sitting down to chat about peace. Or did you mean that it took some dialogue to get the Americans involved? |
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11/06/2008 09:13:24 AM · #15 |
WWII was won with the blood of our fathers, not words. You win war by destroying your enemies ability and will to continue the fight. You defend yourself against a lethal enemy that is intent on your destruction by fighting back.
Sure if he wants to talk, let's talk. But if his talk is about destroying us and our way of life, or that of our allies, the conversation will be short.
Peace and love can rule the day only when there are two parties that desire it.
Meanwhile, let's keep up our guard.
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11/06/2008 09:38:01 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by farfel53:
WWII was won with the blood of our fathers, not words. You win war by destroying your enemies ability and will to continue the fight. You defend yourself against a lethal enemy that is intent on your destruction by fighting back.
Sure if he wants to talk, let's talk. But if his talk is about destroying us and our way of life, or that of our allies, the conversation will be short.
Peace and love can rule the day only when there are two parties that desire it.
Meanwhile, let's keep up our guard. |
exactly |
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11/06/2008 09:59:33 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Simms:
Really great shots.
Gotta hand it to the US, they picked well.. Lets just hope he doesnt f**k up this amazing vibe that pretty much seems to be felt around the western world at the moment.
Not wanting this to turn into a rant, how would Americans feel if he decided to open dialogue with some of the more dubious groups in Iraq/Afghanistan etc.. The way the British did with the IRA and actually managed to get a result! Hell, why not get Tony Blair/Gerry Adams/Martin Mcguiness on board to advise? Surely continued violence isnt the answer from either side? There was no chance of Bush ever wanting to talk and reach an agreement, so maybe Obama is the man to help sort this whole mess out.
(edit - yes I know the British Government had to make a number of concessions, but lets face it, killing each other will NEVER get a desirable result, but ultimately, we have no more dead British Soldiers in Northern Ireland, no more dead civilians (men, women AND children) so surely swallowing a bitter pill sometimes does work?) |
Exactly.
If we never sat down to talk with our enemies how do you think WW I and WW II would have ended? |
Don't know about WWI but WWII was won with bombs, not dialogue. I can't remember Hitler sitting down to chat about peace. Or did you mean that it took some dialogue to get the Americans involved? |
I was talking about the treaty talks. Bombs are what started it all. The desire of both parties to end it brought them to the table to talk about how to end it. |
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11/06/2008 10:20:25 AM · #18 |
thanks for sharing all of those are awesome photos, everytime I see one that I really like I see another one.....but #11 is a cool shot but again so are so many more
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11/06/2008 10:47:37 AM · #19 |
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11/06/2008 10:50:31 AM · #20 |
| Some very powerful images there. |
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11/06/2008 10:50:37 AM · #21 |
Now that he's going to be president maybe he could get more than 4 neckties... hahahhaaha
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11/06/2008 10:55:42 AM · #22 |
I wonder how much michelle paid for that red and black dress she has in the photo..
sorry couldn't resist.. |
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11/06/2008 11:04:41 AM · #23 |
| He is quite photogenic. I hope there is more to him than that. Picked a Pit Bull for his Chief of Staff. So much for unifying us. |
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11/06/2008 11:15:28 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by Photomom1981:
I wonder how much michelle paid for that red and black dress she has in the photo..
sorry couldn't resist.. |
You should be able to find out here. |
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11/06/2008 12:19:07 PM · #25 |
| it was a joke General.... |
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