Amber Alert...this just sickens me.

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10/18/2008 10:33:54 AM · #1

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I am just continuing this thread from other web sites.

I have heard this kidnapping on the radio, and during the news.

This just sickens me.

Anyone with kids should be appalled as well.

Please, if you can help get this kid home, in any way, shape or form....help.

Missing Boy's Grandpa is in Custody: New Article

vtruan

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10/18/2008 10:40:48 AM · #2

They found him in. And we was okay

MacDonald

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10/18/2008 10:48:25 AM · #3

They have the grandfather in custody, not the little boy. His photograph really got to me too horse. Praying for a good outcome.

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10/18/2008 12:32:38 PM · #4

any dead beat drug dealer who steals money from the BOSS man should be appalled. this kind of thing doesn't generally happen to normal working class people...

i feel for the missing boy - but really are YOU worried about this happening to you ?

why weren't the parents arrested ?

why were they there ?

shamrock

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10/18/2008 02:45:58 PM · #5

And why is this particular case more sickening that the other ones?

BeeCee

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10/18/2008 02:47:17 PM · #6

Originally posted by soup:

any dead beat drug dealer who steals money from the BOSS man should be appalled. this kind of thing doesn't generally happen to normal working class people...
i feel for the missing boy - but really are YOU worried about this happening to you ?

why weren't the parents arrested ?

why were they there ?

No, in a "normal" home invasion the residents normally "just" end up severely injured or dead :(

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10/18/2008 03:33:53 PM · #7

come on now.
in a 'normal' home invasion why was the house invaded to begin with ?
are homes generally invaded by fake cops at breakfast time - searching for whatever cash and goods they can find to make good on a deadbeat debt owed to a methamphetimine king pin ?

likely not - and in this case we're talking about 8-20 million dollars... why did the parents bring the kid there ? yeah it sucks he's missing, but jeez. the parents should be in custody too.

did you read the recent vermont story of a 12 year old girl who was picked up by her uncle - drugged, raped, and murdered ? probably not - was there an amber alert ? maybe. did it involve a kid being put in a situation where there was a 'real' reason to invade her house ? no.

point is - like i mentioned - i feel for the missing kid, but why all the hub bub about this particular case ? it seems like a scenerio where the end result was almost guaranteed. or at least a similar ending like you mentioned in your 'real world' home invasion theory.

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BeeCee

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10/18/2008 04:02:27 PM · #8

Originally posted by soup:

My point was that this kind of thing DOES happen to ordinary people, too, though more often they're elderly or in some other way unlikely to offer much resistance.

My first reaction, though, is much like yours beyond that one point. But it IS just possible (maybe not likely, but possible) that they didn't know just what the grandfather was involved in, or at least to what extent. Not all families are close, you know. They may not have realised they were in such danger.

ANY child abduction is a tragedy and causes harm, even those done out of love. And I include those that are taking a child from a legal but damaging environment as a last resort to protect the child. The tragedy there is that the system has failed the child and kidnapping appears the only remaining choice.

Bear_Music

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10/18/2008 04:02:42 PM · #9

Originally posted by soup:

I don't understand this position. Am I missing something? As far as I can see, the grandfather, who lived in California, owed huge amounts of money to the drug cartel, and had been on the lam from them since maybe August. The thugs who kidnapped the little boy from his family home in Las Vegas were presumably planning to use him as leverage against the grandfather, who has now been detained as a "material witness" by the police.

So the "sickening" thing is that an innocent kid is being used as a pawn by drug dealers to enforce their deals, and that IS sickening. I don't see anything that suggests the kid's father (the grandfather's son) has anything at all to do with any of this.

So what am I missing?

R.

10/18/2008 05:33:39 PM · #10

you're not missing anything, and i'm not saying it's alright that the kid was abducted.

what i'm trying to say is this specific type of thing doesn't happen everyday, and this particular incident has some MEDIA grab to it, so it's used like propaganda to attract attention ( and $$$ ) for the media outlets.

kids get abducted everyday - unfortunately - but most of the time no-one outside of the local viscinity hears anything about it. what makes this case drive me a little batty - is the fact the drug dealer grandpa and his $8+ million dollar debt makes cause for our news groups to make a 'story' out of it.

i felt the same way about the miner incident a fews years back - trapped in the mine they worked in. a big money maker for the media and a debacle at the same time - it turned out.
and what did it do for the miners involved ?

again i feel for the kid. it's unfortunate for sure.

10/18/2008 05:46:24 PM · #11

You know.....

.... this isn't a high school debate on weather the parents are at fault, or if the grandfather is part of the whole problem.

This is a thread to reach out and try and help a 6 year old boy.

Like everyone else that ever were born on this Earth, he didn't have a choice to what kind of family he was born into.

Argueing over symantics are for the lawyers.

Assumptions are for ass's.

If you don't care, then don't post.

If you can help, then help.

10/19/2008 09:23:01 AM · #12

The kid has been found safe and unharmed.

10/19/2008 01:07:22 PM · #13

that's great !

you know...

i read about the case on a news site - like millions of other people. then i read it, again, here on a photography site. you get my point ?

how come you didn't try to help the 12yr old girl i mentioned earlier - in the same manner ? much worse outcome for her, as well as much different and more common place circumstance.

i know the answer, and i've stated my opinion. if you feel i don't care - so be it.

that's your opinion...