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10/12/2008 06:18:05 PM · #1			 | 
		
		...if I'm ever to oust Queen of the Macros,   IreneM! Hey I can dream, can't I? :-)
 
 Alas I *only* have a D40, and though I love my 18-200mm lens I tend to end up with unwanted bokeh whenever I try to get macros.
 
 So, if I can somehow arrange for another miracle to occur...where all respondents magically agree on the same lens...that would really rock.
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10/12/2008 06:22:31 PM · #2			 | 
		
		Originally posted by snaffles:   ...if I'm ever to oust Queen of the Macros, [user]IreneM![/user] Hey I can dream, can't I? :-)
 
 Alas I *only* have a D40, and though I love my 18-200mm lens I tend to end up with unwanted bokeh whenever I try to get macros.
 
 So, if I can somehow arrange for another miracle to occur...where all respondents magically agree on the same lens...that would really rock.  |   
 
 60mm 2.8 micro by Nikon....Awesome stuff |  
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10/12/2008 06:30:34 PM · #3			 | 
		
		real choice is between the 60mm 2.8 AF-s or 105 VR afs
 that is if you have to have AF 
 otherwise  keep your eye on //ottawa.kijiji.ca (search for nikon ;)
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10/12/2008 06:40:20 PM · #4			 | 
		
		This is the other one   ralph mentioned.
 Micro 105 mm 2.8 VR
 With this you get a longer focal length (useful for butterflies, bees and the like) and vibration reduction (helpful if you plan to use it without a tripod).  But the price is almost double.
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10/12/2008 06:46:51 PM · #5			 | 
		
		| The price would be double for a shaky-handed amateur who uses a tripod oh every 10 challenges or so, dammit! :-)  My comp's acting weird right now, not letting me go to pricegrabber.com so I may take ralph's advice and try kijiji.  Thanks all! |  
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10/12/2008 07:06:26 PM · #6			 | 
		
		I was so inspired by   IreneM's shots that I got the Tamron SP AF 90mm 2.8 that she used for many of her ribbon shots (and she should have gotten a commission).  That has been my favorite lens ever since, but it is my only experience with macro lenses, so take my suggestion with a grain of salt. |  
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10/12/2008 07:21:12 PM · #7			 | 
		
		Originally posted by snaffles:   The price would be double for a shaky-handed amateur who uses a tripod oh every 10 challenges or so, dammit! :-)  My comp's acting weird right now, not letting me go to pricegrabber.com so I may take ralph's advice and try kijiji.  Thanks all!  |   
 sorry / not to get yer hopes up - there is nothing currently listed on kijiji
 but just this past week there was a 60mm for 300$ .. its a good thing to keep an eye on 
 
 carefull though !! only deal with people in person & anything low ball is a scam 
 (the 600$ d300 , the 1200$ d3, the 1200$ 600mm f4 ,.... scam scam scam .. ) 
 but! i've picked up some real nice glass off there .. 85f1.4 and 14f2.8 so occasional deals to be had... |  
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10/12/2008 07:24:36 PM · #8			 | 
		
		Thanks ralph, was just looking there and posted an ad for the glass I want, may check out the Tamron lens Jmart mentioned too.  And no fear, I have the bs detector turned up to max whenever I go to buy stuff online!
 
 May try UsedOttawa too, you ever had any luck there? |  
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10/12/2008 07:26:41 PM · #9			 | 
		
		Originally posted by snaffles:   Thanks ralph, was just looking there and posted an ad for the glass I want, may check out the Tamron lens Jmart mentioned too.  And no fear, I have the bs detector turned up to max whenever I go to buy stuff online!
 
 May try UsedOttawa too, you ever had any luck there?  |   
 not a site i usually look at , so no ....
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10/12/2008 07:41:39 PM · #10			 | 
		
		Originally posted by ralph:   Originally posted by snaffles:   Thanks ralph, was just looking there and posted an ad for the glass I want, may check out the Tamron lens Jmart mentioned too.  And no fear, I have the bs detector turned up to max whenever I go to buy stuff online!
 
 May try UsedOttawa too, you ever had any luck there?  |   
 not a site i usually look at , so no ....  |   
 
 Was just there, saw some repetition of ads from kijiji...like the guy downgrading from his D200 to a D90!  Don't want to start a whole new thread, but what's your take on that situation?  I've heard that the D90 is just as capable as the D300 but at a 1/4 the price.  I'm not about to buy one, but once I start to outshoot the D40(BWWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA)I will look at the D90. |  
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10/12/2008 07:54:45 PM · #11			 | 
		
		Originally posted by snaffles:  Was just there, saw some repetition of ads from kijiji...like the guy downgrading from his D200 to a D90!  Don't want to start a whole new thread, but what's your take on that situation?  I've heard that the D90 is just as capable as the D300 but at a 1/4 the price.  I'm not about to buy one, but once I start to outshoot the D40(BWWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA)I will look at the D90.  |   
 
 Many things are similar between the D90 and D300, but the 6.5 fps, the 51 focus points, the ability to meter AI-S lenses and several other features make the D300 a slam dunk for me |  
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10/13/2008 09:53:44 AM · #12			 | 
		
		Originally posted by bassbone:   Originally posted by snaffles:  Was just there, saw some repetition of ads from kijiji...like the guy downgrading from his D200 to a D90!  Don't want to start a whole new thread, but what's your take on that situation?  I've heard that the D90 is just as capable as the D300 but at a 1/4 the price.  I'm not about to buy one, but once I start to outshoot the D40(BWWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA)I will look at the D90.  |   
 
 Many things are similar between the D90 and D300, but the 6.5 fps, the 51 focus points, the ability to meter AI-S lenses and several other features make the D300 a slam dunk for me  |   
 
 *shrugs* not dissing them, but I've simply heard of on- and offsite members saying that they're going back from the D300 to D90.  Is all. |  
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10/13/2008 09:59:34 AM · #13			 | 
		
		Definitely take a look at the Tamron.  Three things you will notice, 1) the lens is recessed; 2) the lens hood is included and 3) the push pull mechanism for changing between AF and MF.  The latter is what I think is one of the best features on this lens.  You don't have to take your eye away from the viewfinder to change from AF to MF and vice versa.
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10/13/2008 10:03:31 AM · #14			 | 
		
		| Thanks all for the suggestions!  Now, the big question is, what is a reasonable price range for these lenses? |  
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10/13/2008 10:34:55 AM · #15			 | 
		
		The tamron runs between 400 and 500 CDN new.
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10/13/2008 11:26:32 AM · #16			 | 
		
		Hey Linda, I did some (most) of my best stuff with my D70 or D50, so don't worry about "only" having the D40.
 I can definitely recommend the Nikkor Micro 60 mm or the Tamron 90 mm Macro. They are both great lenses! |  
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10/13/2008 11:39:12 AM · #17			 | 
		
		Originally posted by IreneM:   Hey Linda, I did some (most) of my best stuff with my D70 or D50, so don't worry about "only" having the D40.
 I can definitely recommend the Nikkor Micro 60 mm or the Tamron 90 mm Macro. They are both great lenses!  |   
 
 Thanks Irene, getting your endorsement on a lens was something I was hoping to see!  And no fear, I love the D40, it'll be a long time before I ever outshoot it...and so far, in terms of scores, I have yet to outshoot the pix I took with my P&S! |  
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10/13/2008 12:26:05 PM · #18			 | 
		
		Not sure if anyone mentioned it before but the new Nikon 60mm micro is now AF-S which makes it a great combo with the D-40.
 
 Nikon 60mm AF-S
 
 Good luck in your search.
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10/13/2008 12:40:56 PM · #19			 | 
		
		| The 60mm AF-S was worth mentioning as the original 60mm has no focus motor, which means no AF with the D40. This isn't su much a problem for macro, but it's a great all-round lens and I think investing in the new model for the D40 would be worthwhile. |  
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10/13/2008 01:03:00 PM · #20			 | 
		
		Just remember that with the shorter macro lenses working distance may become an issue, depending on what you are shooting.
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10/13/2008 01:05:07 PM · #21			 | 
		
		| I use sigmas 18-50 2.8 macro |  
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10/13/2008 01:09:20 PM · #22			 | 
		
		Originally posted by cpanaioti:   Just remember that with the shorter macro lenses working distance may become an issue, depending on what you are shooting.  |   
 Not sure I understand -- could you elaborate?  :-) |  
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10/13/2008 01:09:54 PM · #23			 | 
		
		Originally posted by Frozenforever:   I use sigmas 18-50 2.8 macro  |   
 
 That's not a true macro lens though probably allows you to get quite close to your subjects to achieve near 1:1 ratios.
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10/13/2008 01:11:15 PM · #24			 | 
		
		Originally posted by citymars:   Originally posted by cpanaioti:   Just remember that with the shorter macro lenses working distance may become an issue, depending on what you are shooting.  |   
 Not sure I understand -- could you elaborate?  :-)  |   
 
 The shorter the lens the closer to your subject you need to be to achieve 1:1.  You could scare off your subject. 
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10/13/2008 01:13:03 PM · #25			 | 
		
		Originally posted by cpanaioti:   The shorter the lens the closer to your subject you need to be to achieve 1:1.  You could scare off your subject.  |   
 Ah, thanks.  So, good for diamonds, maybe not so good for insects? |  
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