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10/05/2008 04:10:08 PM · #1
I have been thinking about buying a noise reducer, I just don't know which one to get. If you have used either of these, I would love to hear your feedback. I am leaning towards noise ninja because it is available as an aperture plug-in.
10/05/2008 04:12:19 PM · #2
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10/05/2008 04:13:54 PM · #3
I have neat image, I like it....though I know nothing about noise ninja. I have the Pro+ version with the plug in for CS3 and PSPX2 (I use both)...as well as the stand alone (the plugin gets used 99.9% of the time). Its very easy to use and I have no gripes about it.
10/05/2008 04:35:52 PM · #4
I use Neatimage and like it, but saying that I have never used Noise Ninja but by all accounts its just as good.
10/05/2008 06:24:44 PM · #5
I've tried both and settled on noise ninja as i found it slightly easier to use, both gave pretty much the same results. both have free trials and take a couple of minutes to install so give them a try.
10/05/2008 06:46:07 PM · #6
I use neatimage when photoshop's noise reduction doesn't seem to cut the mustard. Which is rare.
10/05/2008 06:52:29 PM · #7
As I always answer to this same thread every time, throw them both away. If it is a skin softener you are after, then the Kodak Airbrush beats both those plugins hands down!
10/05/2008 06:55:15 PM · #8
I have both as plug ins. I cant remember the last time I actually used Neat Image. It was my choice for a long time. Until friend helped me use Noise Ninja, now its the only one I use.

Matt
10/05/2008 11:05:53 PM · #9
Originally posted by MattO:

I have both as plug ins. I cant remember the last time I actually used Neat Image. It was my choice for a long time. Until friend helped me use Noise Ninja, now its the only one I use.

Matt


Why?
10/05/2008 11:08:59 PM · #10
Originally posted by bspurgeon:

Originally posted by MattO:

I have both as plug ins. I cant remember the last time I actually used Neat Image. It was my choice for a long time. Until friend helped me use Noise Ninja, now its the only one I use.

Matt


Why?


Noise Ninja keeps much more detail, has finer controls and I can fine tune anything that I need too. I routinely run almost all of my prints through it even ISO 50 or 100 for the sharpening and contrast. IMHO its just the better choice, for me.

Matt

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10/05/2008 11:15:27 PM · #11
Originally posted by sjl2116:

I have been thinking about buying a noise reducer, I just don't know which one to get. If you have used either of these, I would love to hear your feedback. I am leaning towards noise ninja because it is available as an aperture plug-in.


I use Noiseware.
10/05/2008 11:19:27 PM · #12
I use noise ninja. It seems to give my photos the final touch that I need. I usually run all my photos through at various stages.
10/05/2008 11:42:11 PM · #13
Photoshop's noise reduction filter is pretty underrated. I've been using it pretty much as my all purpose noise reducer and skin smoother. I've used neatimage and noise ninja in the past and those are good too, but I find I have to do too much work with them to get the results I want.

Message edited by author 2008-10-05 23:42:59.
10/06/2008 07:10:22 AM · #14
Wow this thread kicked off pretty good for a repeat thread and the OP never came back
10/06/2008 07:19:23 AM · #15
Originally posted by MattO:

I routinely run almost all of my prints through it even ISO 50 or 100 for the sharpening and contrast. IMHO its just the better choice, for me.

I'm stunned that you're needing to use noise reduction at that kind of ISO. While I try and stick to 100, if I need to I'll happily switch down as far as ISO800 and I can't remember the last time I actually needed to fire up Neat Image (actually it's not even installed on this PC, I've not used it for so long)

Are you heavily processing or cropping or something?
10/06/2008 07:44:58 AM · #16
Originally posted by ganders:

Originally posted by MattO:

I routinely run almost all of my prints through it even ISO 50 or 100 for the sharpening and contrast. IMHO its just the better choice, for me.

I'm stunned that you're needing to use noise reduction at that kind of ISO. While I try and stick to 100, if I need to I'll happily switch down as far as ISO800 and I can't remember the last time I actually needed to fire up Neat Image (actually it's not even installed on this PC, I've not used it for so long)

Are you heavily processing or cropping or something?


Depends on what you are shooting, often I find heavy bokeh looks better after some noise ninja even at ISO 100 whereas busier shots are fine at much higher ISO's
10/06/2008 07:58:33 AM · #17
I've tried both, Ninja resulted in more consistent noise reduction and much finer control in my experience.
10/06/2008 09:51:53 AM · #18
Originally posted by ganders:

Originally posted by MattO:

I routinely run almost all of my prints through it even ISO 50 or 100 for the sharpening and contrast. IMHO its just the better choice, for me.

I'm stunned that you're needing to use noise reduction at that kind of ISO. While I try and stick to 100, if I need to I'll happily switch down as far as ISO800 and I can't remember the last time I actually needed to fire up Neat Image (actually it's not even installed on this PC, I've not used it for so long)

Are you heavily processing or cropping or something?


Apparently you have never used Noise Ninja, it isnt about the noise reduction. I can show you smooth clean 3200 ISO shots with proper exposure. Its about the way it processes the file for contrast, sharpening and so forth. You might be suprised.

Matt
10/06/2008 10:02:23 AM · #19
Thanks for the help, I have downloaded trials of both of them and to for myself. I should have done a search in the forums to see what already been written, but I was feeling a bit lazy. I will let you guys known the conclusion I reach. I just started my work day, but when I get home tonight, I will play around with them.
10/06/2008 10:28:57 AM · #20
Originally posted by MattO:

Apparently you have never used Noise Ninja, it isnt about the noise reduction. I can show you smooth clean 3200 ISO shots with proper exposure. Its about the way it processes the file for contrast, sharpening and so forth. You might be suprised.

You're right - I've never used it. But the thread started off with a question about noise reduction, so I assumed that's what we were talking about. I'm sure it's useful when you're up at 3200; I was specifically curious about you saying you used it routinely down at 50 or 100 ISO.

In terms of contrast and sharpening, well, it seems a little odd to be having a seperate chunk of software (and one built primarily for NR) to do stuff for me that Lightroom is exceedingly good at.
10/06/2008 11:00:27 AM · #21
Ha, I read the title as 'Neat Image of Noisy Ninja' and came to post that it was impossible to take a picture of a ninja!

*goes to get more coffee*

10/06/2008 11:13:33 AM · #22
Originally posted by ganders:

Originally posted by MattO:

Apparently you have never used Noise Ninja, it isnt about the noise reduction. I can show you smooth clean 3200 ISO shots with proper exposure. Its about the way it processes the file for contrast, sharpening and so forth. You might be suprised.

You're right - I've never used it. But the thread started off with a question about noise reduction, so I assumed that's what we were talking about. I'm sure it's useful when you're up at 3200; I was specifically curious about you saying you used it routinely down at 50 or 100 ISO.

In terms of contrast and sharpening, well, it seems a little odd to be having a seperate chunk of software (and one built primarily for NR) to do stuff for me that Lightroom is exceedingly good at.


As a plugin, its not seperate, and can perform more then one task.......and its alot cheaper then lightroom. :D But each person has to develop their own workflow to see what works for them.

Matt
10/06/2008 03:59:19 PM · #23
Originally posted by MattO:

As a plugin, its not seperate, and can perform more then one task.......and its alot cheaper then lightroom. :D

You have to have something to plug it into though, no?

Anyway, I don't want to derail - I was just puzzled why anyone would be needing NR on low ISO images coming out of a 5D and the answer would appear to be "they don't".
10/07/2008 12:28:40 AM · #24
Originally posted by ganders:

Originally posted by MattO:

As a plugin, its not seperate, and can perform more then one task.......and its alot cheaper then lightroom. :D

You have to have something to plug it into though, no?

Anyway, I don't want to derail - I was just puzzled why anyone would be needing NR on low ISO images coming out of a 5D and the answer would appear to be "they don't".


As what I think Matt was pointing out its prob more of a work flow or style that its being used rather than out of technical necessity. I use noise ninja on a lot of photos whether they are shot at 100 or 1600 iso, it just seems to add just that little something extra...

BTW there is a plugin and stand alone version of Noise Ninja ;)

-dave
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