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09/18/2008 09:14:49 PM · #1
Hey everyone,

I mentioned an issue a while back about my 30d acting up. I would click the shutter and sometimes it wouldn't fire correctly. It was clearly a shutter button switch problem, as i found a thread on the repair of it on Doug Kerr's site. Here is the actual site for the pdf:

doug.kerr.home.att.net/pumpkin/20D_Shutter_Release.pdf

So my dad and I ordered the part and got to repairing. Well we got about 75% of the way through and as we were unsoldering the original switch, we messed up some contacts on the wire ribbon. Well it wasn't repairable so we called canon and ordered that part. Turns out it was pretty cheap and we just got it today. My question for ya'll is, have any of ya'll gone deep at all in your 30d. Enough to know a little bit about how this ribbon works and where all I need to connect it. I'm also asking for random comments about how crazy I am for opening up my 30d (a.k.a. I'm a cheapo)

Thanks in advance,
Ryan

eta UPDATE: Somehow we have gotten this camera back together and it is now working. Read further down to see a full update.

Message edited by author 2008-09-20 01:37:43.
09/18/2008 09:20:07 PM · #2
Dude! You're not well!! :D
09/18/2008 09:24:44 PM · #3
did ya take a picture before you started?
09/18/2008 09:25:20 PM · #4
Originally posted by idnic:

Dude! You're not well!! :D


you know it, well luckily its my backup 30d (long story). I bought the one that doesn't work thinking it worked, and the dude lied to me, and paypal reimbursed me and let me keep the camera, and I got my new one, and now I'm repairing my old one because Canon's repair would have been too much, and now I'm regretting not using them. (*DEEP BREATH*) and thats how I'm at this point.
09/18/2008 09:25:45 PM · #5
Originally posted by David Ey:

did ya take a picture before you started?


I haven't started putting the ribbon on, but I will be taking lots of pics.
09/18/2008 09:27:21 PM · #6
I am having the exact same problem with my 30D. But I dont have the cajones to do the job myself. Oddly when I called Canon and told them my problem they seemed to be oblivious that this appears to be a common flaw with the camera. I will be sending mine in in the next couple of weeks most likely. Maybe after the 50D comes out. Good luck with your endeavor. I look forward to hearing your results.
09/18/2008 09:30:05 PM · #7
does the ribbon have terminal connectors on each end?
09/18/2008 09:30:59 PM · #8
Originally posted by timfythetoo:

I am having the exact same problem with my 30D. But I dont have the cajones to do the job myself. Oddly when I called Canon and told them my problem they seemed to be oblivious that this appears to be a common flaw with the camera. I will be sending mine in in the next couple of weeks most likely. Maybe after the 50D comes out. Good luck with your endeavor. I look forward to hearing your results.


I've found it (by research) to be a very successful fix. Ours would have worked, but we pulled too hard when removing the original and grabbed some of the ribbon with it. It really was an easy fix through that part, if that had been successful, it would have been well worth it. I would do it again now if my other 30d started acting up now that I know the pitfall. Hopefully the ribbon fix will be relatively easy. Doug Kerr's walkthrough is phenomenal.

Message edited by author 2008-09-18 21:31:36.
09/18/2008 09:31:14 PM · #9
Originally posted by David Ey:

does the ribbon have terminal connectors on each end?


Here is a picture of the ribbon:



Message edited by author 2008-09-18 21:33:04.
09/18/2008 09:32:56 PM · #10
nothing wrong with doing stuff yourself, i would do the same thing. now if it was repairing lenses, thats another story.
09/18/2008 09:33:22 PM · #11
Originally posted by incubus:

nothing wrong with doing stuff yourself, i would do the same thing. now if it was repairing lenses, thats another story.


yeah i get nervous changing lenses, lol
09/18/2008 09:35:08 PM · #12
Can you repost the link to doug kerrs site?

ETA - NM - I found it

Message edited by author 2008-09-18 21:39:26.
09/18/2008 09:37:43 PM · #13
It appears it solders in.. If so you might need solder sucker wire to remove the old and/or excess solder. Don't over heat things. good luck, YOU CAN DO IT.
09/18/2008 09:39:47 PM · #14
looks like the ribbon has contact points for the grip as well. that doesnt look too easy
09/18/2008 09:42:27 PM · #15
why not? likely a 10 year old did it before
09/18/2008 09:48:39 PM · #16
Oh and Tim, the 30d repair for mine was going to be about $280, just to let you know before you ship it off. It wasn't worth it for me, so I tried it myself.
09/18/2008 10:55:01 PM · #17
Originally posted by ryand:

Oh and Tim, the 30d repair for mine was going to be about $280, just to let you know before you ship it off. It wasn't worth it for me, so I tried it myself.


And in hindsight..........I rely too much on my gear to make a bonehead bad decision like that. IMHO the time trouble and money lost while not shooting with it, not to mention the calibration factor and warrenty make that $280 seem like a cheap investment to me. But too each their own.

Matt
09/18/2008 11:37:17 PM · #18
Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by ryand:

Oh and Tim, the 30d repair for mine was going to be about $280, just to let you know before you ship it off. It wasn't worth it for me, so I tried it myself.


And in hindsight..........I rely too much on my gear to make a bonehead bad decision like that. IMHO the time trouble and money lost while not shooting with it, not to mention the calibration factor and warrenty make that $280 seem like a cheap investment to me. But too each their own.

Matt


Oh no, this is a "backup", I never used it, so its a matter of selling it now. So the more profit for it the better.
09/18/2008 11:42:20 PM · #19
Anyone have any pointers?





lol, basically we need us a desoldering tool (like a vacuum solder) to get to the meat of it, so out to get one tomorrow and then back at it. lol, its been an adventure, and itll be a miracle if we get it back together and working.

Message edited by author 2008-09-18 23:42:35.
09/19/2008 12:11:51 AM · #20
Originally posted by ryand:

Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by ryand:

Oh and Tim, the 30d repair for mine was going to be about $280, just to let you know before you ship it off. It wasn't worth it for me, so I tried it myself.


And in hindsight..........I rely too much on my gear to make a bonehead bad decision like that. IMHO the time trouble and money lost while not shooting with it, not to mention the calibration factor and warrenty make that $280 seem like a cheap investment to me. But too each their own.

Matt


Oh no, this is a "backup", I never used it, so its a matter of selling it now. So the more profit for it the better.


I sure hope when you sell that camera, you offer full disclosure to the buyer. I'd sure hate to stumble across this thread after buying it.

Matt
09/19/2008 12:13:23 AM · #21
What exactly did the camera do that the shutter did not fire properly?
09/19/2008 12:14:30 AM · #22
Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by ryand:

Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by ryand:

Oh and Tim, the 30d repair for mine was going to be about $280, just to let you know before you ship it off. It wasn't worth it for me, so I tried it myself.


And in hindsight..........I rely too much on my gear to make a bonehead bad decision like that. IMHO the time trouble and money lost while not shooting with it, not to mention the calibration factor and warrenty make that $280 seem like a cheap investment to me. But too each their own.

Matt


Oh no, this is a "backup", I never used it, so its a matter of selling it now. So the more profit for it the better.


I sure hope when you sell that camera, you offer full disclosure to the buyer. I'd sure hate to stumble across this thread after buying it.

Matt


If I ever get it back together, I'll consider keeping the repaired one and selling my good one. Because I trust the work, but no-one else would probably.
09/19/2008 12:16:11 AM · #23
Originally posted by Katmystiry:

What exactly did the camera do that the shutter did not fire properly?


I would press it down all the way (even on manual focus) and it would delay a couple seconds sometimes, and then sometimes it would fire properly, I've heard it is pretty common among the 10d,20d, and 30d's. It was something that would make me miss a lot of stuff, especially in sports, so I tried to fix it and got in a little over my head, so it'll probably end up being sold for parts.

eta: unless something crazy happens, and we actually get it working again.

Message edited by author 2008-09-19 00:16:29.
09/19/2008 12:28:11 AM · #24
I've not experienced this with my 20D .. but I am with the 30D I just got ... it has a huge hesitation and it's making me nuts (I shoot a lot of sports). I took it out to test after I got it and sometimes it wouldn't fire at all, other times (seldom) it fired just fine. I changed lenses and changed some settings, it is a tad better but nothing I'd be able to use for sports. ... Now I'm bummed :(

Message edited by author 2008-09-19 00:33:36.
09/19/2008 12:45:26 AM · #25
Originally posted by Katmystiry:

I've not experienced this with my 20D .. but I am with the 30D I just got ... it has a huge hesitation and it's making me nuts (I shoot a lot of sports). I took it out to test after I got it and sometimes it wouldn't fire at all, other times (seldom) it fired just fine. I changed lenses and changed some settings, it is a tad better but nothing I'd be able to use for sports. ... Now I'm bummed :(


Yeah! I've been getting the same problem with mine lately! I was thinking it may of been connections to the lens but by the sounds of it, perhaps not! I'm thinking of having mine looked at soon!
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