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08/28/2008 12:18:04 PM · #51 |
The problem as I see it is that when things like this continue to occur and increase in frequency - that is, the powers of the state being used to 'protect' the 'rights' of the privileged - the average joe's reaction is a) there must be more to it and b) it's ok because .
It's not ok. It's not ok that well connected people can buy influence with the supposed representatives of the people, it's not ok that police are used to drop the hammer on citizens attempting to bear witness to the fact, and it's not ok to continue accepting it as business as usual.
Considering that the politicians and their suitors were, in this case, all members of the party that is raising the flag of New Hope for the country, this should be viewed as an even larger insult than usual to the people of the US. It should also give cause for thought to those who lay all problems at the foot of the Bush administration. The political second coming of Christ scheduled for November is just a new coat on the same wolf. |
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08/28/2008 01:00:03 PM · #52 |
Violinist - I agree with what you say up until your third paragraph. This could happen with either party and may not even have anything to do with politics. It may simply be your typical assault against photographer's rights, which is why it was posted in this thread.
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08/28/2008 01:12:28 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Ken: Violinist - I agree with what you say up until your third paragraph. This could happen with either party and may not even have anything to do with politics. It may simply be your typical assault against photographer's rights, which is why it was posted in this thread. |
It takes balls, huge balls, to attack a news crew from a national media organization. I have to disagree, it has everything to do with politics. The politics of keeping a ruling class in power. |
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08/28/2008 01:32:38 PM · #54 |
FWIW,
I recently (in 2003) went to the local social security office to file paperwork for my newborn... I had a mobile phone in my pocket (as I always have, nothing devious about it), and I was stopped at the entrance because the phone had a camera on it. Again, I think I took maybe 6 shots with that camera in 6 years, but still, that was a camera, and that was a no-no. It did not matter that I wasn't planning on shooting anything and anyone with it, I probably wouldn't even have taken it out of my pocket, but that was a federal building, and the current rules are no photography equipment, period.
So, I had to walk back to my car, drop the phone in it, (they would not keep the phone with them so I can pick it up on my way out) and be photography-free inside the federal building. At that point, it did not bother me that much so I did not investigate, but as it was a checkpoint at the entrance and not a random un-uniformed guy approaching me I believed that it was in order.
You see, I came to the US from a former communist republic, so I am well trained and accustomed to this kind of treatment. I am well prepared to live in the US of today... |
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08/28/2008 02:45:08 PM · #55 |
There seems to be no problem with cameras here at the local county courthouse, it's photo was on the front of the local phone book a year or two ago. They don't allow cell phones or cameras into the interior of the areas where proceedings and the surrounding related offices are located, but they do hold your knives and other weapons of singular destruction at the door for you until you are coming back out. It's pretty laid back here in the country in the interior of S Florida.
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08/28/2008 04:28:56 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by srdanz: You see, I came to the US from a former communist republic, so I am well trained and accustomed to this kind of treatment. I am well prepared to live in the US of today... |
"Not only did [Barry] Goldwater agree with me, but he had a theory of convergence that even I found somewhat radical. Goldwater believed ... that the Soviet Union, through the pressure of its people, would move steadily toward a free society, while the U.S., through the pressure of the liberals and the momentum of the Federal bureaucracy, would become more and more oligarchic. But, unlike many convergence theorists, Goldwater did not believe we would meet and stabilize. He felt we would cross, that they would keep moving toward freedom and we would keep moving toward dictatorship."
--Karl Hess, 1976 |
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08/31/2008 06:58:10 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo: From the associated press. A bit more of the story:
"An ABC News producer covering the Democratic convention was pushed into traffic by a sheriff's deputy on Wednesday and then arrested, the network said.
Asa Eslocker was arrested on charges of interference, trespass and failure to obey a lawful order.
Authorities said Eslocker repeatedly had been told to stop blocking a sidewalk and an entrance to Denver's Brown Palace Hotel. He wasn't arrested until three hours after the first warning, police said." |
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