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08/30/2008 01:33:45 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by nomad469:
By the way ... the other guy that was elected president from Illinois had a pretty thin resume also and he did okay. |
Yeah, he actually INVADED another country and conquered it. The only time the US has done that. Go Abe! |
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08/30/2008 01:36:49 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
He didn't even have the political sense to leave Rev. Wrights hate-mongering "church" until he got called on it. |
Hmm... gotta write that one down. "HawkeyeLonewolf (scribble, scribble) criticizing Obama (scribble) for failing to leave Christian Church (scribble, scribble) because it was preaching hate." Now I just need a mat and a nice frame. ;-) |
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Didn't say anything of the sort. Wright's church is not Christian at all. If you had the intellect to read a bible you would know that.
*SIGH* As usual, you bring nothing of value to a conversation. |
UM ??? It ain't Jewish... and it ain't Druid...and it ain't Hindu ... what is it ??? |
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08/30/2008 01:37:55 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by RKT:
I just wanted to post this for anyone who may be actually buying into some of the things being said by  HawkeyeLonewolf. It's a long read, but we need to educate ourselves about our choices. I really like Obama. I don't watch the news all that much and any speeches I watch, I watch on CSPAN. I want to come to my own conclusions and not let some reporter try to sway me. What truly scares me is that there are people out there voting who will vote for McCain now simply because his VP pick can gut a fish and load a shot gun. There are people voting for Obama because of some other trivial things and what have you...it does go both ways.
I just want people to really look into what the candidates have to say and come to their own conclusions, and not vote for our future President having only listened to sounds bites or because so and so told them to.
ETA: Typos and clarify. |
Same old blah blah from Brak Hussein Osama.
Free health care for all (SOCIALISM)
No successes of his own in that little red blue book. Just "Obama piggybacked on someone elses work". Otherwise he couldn't be bothered. And did anything pass? Or just get proposed?
Obama = Empty Suit, Empty Mind, Empty Character.
YAWN! |
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08/30/2008 01:38:49 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
He didn't even have the political sense to leave Rev. Wrights hate-mongering "church" until he got called on it. |
Hmm... gotta write that one down. "HawkeyeLonewolf (scribble, scribble) criticizing Obama (scribble) for failing to leave Christian Church (scribble, scribble) because it was preaching hate." Now I just need a mat and a nice frame. ;-) |
*****.
Didn't say anything of the sort. Wright's church is not Christian at all. If you had the intellect to read a bible you would know that.
*SIGH* As usual, you bring nothing of value to a conversation. |
UM ??? It ain't Jewish... and it ain't Druid...and it ain't Hindu ... what is it ??? |
It's a front for black social change in the guise a Christian church. Christ was not about social change. He was about people changing their hearts. |
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08/30/2008 01:39:38 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by nomad469:
By the way ... the other guy that was elected president from Illinois had a pretty thin resume also and he did okay. |
Yeah, he actually INVADED another country and conquered it. The only time the US has done that. Go Abe! |
Yep sometimes it is good to keep those breakaway republics in check !
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08/30/2008 01:40:08 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by RKT:
I just wanted to post this for anyone who may be actually buying into some of the things being said by HawkeyeLonewolf. It's a long read, but we need to educate ourselves about our choices. I really like Obama. I don't watch the news all that much and any speeches I watch, I watch on CSPAN. I want to come to my own conclusions and not let some reporter try to sway me. What truly scares me is that there are people out there voting who will vote for McCain now simply because his VP pick can gut a fish and load a shot gun. There are people voting for Obama because of some other trivial things and what have you...it does go both ways.
I just want people to really look into what the candidates have to say and come to their own conclusions, and not vote for our future President having only listened to sounds bites or because so and so told them to.
ETA: Typos and clarify. |
Same old blah blah from Brak Hussein Osama.
Free health care for all (SOCIALISM)
No successes of his own in that little red blue book. Just "Obama piggybacked on someone elses work". Otherwise he couldn't be bothered. And did anything pass? Or just get proposed?
Obama = Empty Suit, Empty Mind, Empty Character.
YAWN! |
Opps...my post vanished...must be a sign from God.
I bet you haven't even read the whole plan if any of it. People such as yourself do no favors for the McCain ticket. Obviously your mind is made up so why not let others make up theirs.
Message edited by author 2008-08-30 13:45:28. |
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08/30/2008 01:44:37 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Wright's church is not Christian at all. |
Trinity United Church of Christ is... the largest church affiliated with The United Church of Christ (UCC), a mainline Protestant Christian denomination. Whoopsie. |
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08/30/2008 01:46:57 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by nomad469:
By the way ... the other guy that was elected president from Illinois had a pretty thin resume also and he did okay. |
Yeah, he actually INVADED another country and conquered it. The only time the US has done that. Go Abe! |
Yep sometimes it is good to keep those breakaway republics in check ! |
Even if they did it legally... Sad. |
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08/30/2008 01:47:47 PM · #59 |
What part of "under the guise of" don't you understand? probably all. |
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08/30/2008 01:48:31 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by RKT:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by RKT:
I just wanted to post this for anyone who may be actually buying into some of the things being said by HawkeyeLonewolf. It's a long read, but we need to educate ourselves about our choices. I really like Obama. I don't watch the news all that much and any speeches I watch, I watch on CSPAN. I want to come to my own conclusions and not let some reporter try to sway me. What truly scares me is that there are people out there voting who will vote for McCain now simply because his VP pick can gut a fish and load a shot gun. There are people voting for Obama because of some other trivial things and what have you...it does go both ways.
I just want people to really look into what the candidates have to say and come to their own conclusions, and not vote for our future President having only listened to sounds bites or because so and so told them to.
ETA: Typos and clarify. |
Same old blah blah from Brak Hussein Osama.
Free health care for all (SOCIALISM)
No successes of his own in that little red blue book. Just "Obama piggybacked on someone elses work". Otherwise he couldn't be bothered. And did anything pass? Or just get proposed?
Obama = Empty Suit, Empty Mind, Empty Character.
YAWN! |
Opps...my post vanished...must be a sign from God.
I bet you haven't even read the whole plan if any of it. People such as yourself do no favors for the McCain ticket. Obviously your mind is made up so why not let others make up theirs. |
They can make up their own mind. And you, like me, are trying to help them. |
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08/30/2008 01:49:45 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
What part of "under the guise of" don't you understand? probably all. |
I'm just curious...can you actually say something without being insulting? |
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08/30/2008 01:50:45 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by RKT:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by RKT:
I just wanted to post this for anyone who may be actually buying into some of the things being said by HawkeyeLonewolf. It's a long read, but we need to educate ourselves about our choices. I really like Obama. I don't watch the news all that much and any speeches I watch, I watch on CSPAN. I want to come to my own conclusions and not let some reporter try to sway me. What truly scares me is that there are people out there voting who will vote for McCain now simply because his VP pick can gut a fish and load a shot gun. There are people voting for Obama because of some other trivial things and what have you...it does go both ways.
I just want people to really look into what the candidates have to say and come to their own conclusions, and not vote for our future President having only listened to sounds bites or because so and so told them to.
ETA: Typos and clarify. |
Same old blah blah from Brak Hussein Osama.
Free health care for all (SOCIALISM)
No successes of his own in that little red blue book. Just "Obama piggybacked on someone elses work". Otherwise he couldn't be bothered. And did anything pass? Or just get proposed?
Obama = Empty Suit, Empty Mind, Empty Character.
YAWN! |
Opps...my post vanished...must be a sign from God.
I bet you haven't even read the whole plan if any of it. People such as yourself do no favors for the McCain ticket. Obviously your mind is made up so why not let others make up theirs. |
They can make up their own mind. And you, like me, are trying to help them. |
...Ooohhh...so you think you're helping? Scary thought that... |
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08/30/2008 01:53:33 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
What part of "under the guise of" don't you understand? probably all. |
The part where you personally define what constitutes a Christian. Church leaders FAR more versed in the Bible than yourself obviously disagree. |
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08/30/2008 01:56:14 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by RKT:
...Ooohhh...so you think you're helping? Scary thought that... |
Sure, he's helping. Folks see him as an example of McCain supporters and decide to vote Obama :) |
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08/30/2008 01:57:05 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by RKT:
...Ooohhh...so you think you're helping? Scary thought that... |
Sure, he's helping. Folks see him as an example of McCain supporters and decide to vote Obama :) |
I hadn't thought of it that way! Excellent observation! |
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08/30/2008 01:57:18 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
He didn't even have the political sense to leave Rev. Wrights hate-mongering "church" until he got called on it. |
Hmm... gotta write that one down. "HawkeyeLonewolf (scribble, scribble) criticizing Obama (scribble) for failing to leave Christian Church (scribble, scribble) because it was preaching hate." Now I just need a mat and a nice frame. ;-) |
*****.
Didn't say anything of the sort. Wright's church is not Christian at all. If you had the intellect to read a bible you would know that.
*SIGH* As usual, you bring nothing of value to a conversation. |
UM ??? It ain't Jewish... and it ain't Druid...and it ain't Hindu ... what is it ??? |
It's a front for black social change in the guise a Christian church. Christ was not about social change. He was about people changing their hearts. |
I am going to resist my overwhelming urge to go into a diatribe here ... but
You insult EVERY Black member of the Christian faith that has gathered together since campfires were held on the plantations of the south... EVERY Black church that I have gone to from country churches in Eldorado Virginia to Mega chuches in LA preach social change to some degree. Your statement shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the position of the church in the Black community
Your radical disreguard for the religious convictions of other AMERICANS serves only to discredit you.
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08/30/2008 02:01:19 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Christ was not about social change. He was about people changing their hearts. |
There is no difference between these two statements, Hawkeye.
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08/30/2008 02:02:40 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
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Same old blah blah from Brak Hussein Osama.
Free health care for all (SOCIALISM)
No successes of his own in that little red blue book. Just "Obama piggybacked on someone elses work". Otherwise he couldn't be bothered. And did anything pass? Or just get proposed?
Obama = Empty Suit, Empty Mind, Empty Character.
YAWN! |
Dangit ... I forgot to add that to the list ... he has a SCARY name just like that guy we got rid of in IRAQ (mission accomplished)
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08/30/2008 02:10:13 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
What part of "under the guise of" don't you understand? probably all. |
The part where you personally define what constitutes a Christian. Church leaders FAR more versed in the Bible than yourself obviously disagree. |
Calling yourself a church leader now? I doubt it.
And no, believers in Christ who study His word understand what a Christian is. |
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08/30/2008 02:12:07 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
He didn't even have the political sense to leave Rev. Wrights hate-mongering "church" until he got called on it. |
Hmm... gotta write that one down. "HawkeyeLonewolf (scribble, scribble) criticizing Obama (scribble) for failing to leave Christian Church (scribble, scribble) because it was preaching hate." Now I just need a mat and a nice frame. ;-) |
*****.
Didn't say anything of the sort. Wright's church is not Christian at all. If you had the intellect to read a bible you would know that.
*SIGH* As usual, you bring nothing of value to a conversation. |
UM ??? It ain't Jewish... and it ain't Druid...and it ain't Hindu ... what is it ??? |
It's a front for black social change in the guise a Christian church. Christ was not about social change. He was about people changing their hearts. |
I am going to resist my overwhelming urge to go into a diatribe here ... but
You insult EVERY Black member of the Christian faith that has gathered together since campfires were held on the plantations of the south... EVERY Black church that I have gone to from country churches in Eldorado Virginia to Mega chuches in LA preach social change to some degree. Your statement shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the position of the church in the Black community
Your radical disreguard for the religious convictions of other AMERICANS serves only to discredit you. |
I did not make any comment about all blacks, you falsely extrapolated that yourself.
I made a comment about one church that teaches hate. |
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08/30/2008 02:12:35 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by david_c:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Christ was not about social change. He was about people changing their hearts. |
There is no difference between these two statements, Hawkeye. |
There most certainly is a GULF of difference in those two statements. |
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08/30/2008 02:16:52 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
He didn't even have the political sense to leave Rev. Wrights hate-mongering "church" until he got called on it. |
Hmm... gotta write that one down. "HawkeyeLonewolf (scribble, scribble) criticizing Obama (scribble) for failing to leave Christian Church (scribble, scribble) because it was preaching hate." Now I just need a mat and a nice frame. ;-) |
*****.
Didn't say anything of the sort. Wright's church is not Christian at all. If you had the intellect to read a bible you would know that.
*SIGH* As usual, you bring nothing of value to a conversation. |
UM ??? It ain't Jewish... and it ain't Druid...and it ain't Hindu ... what is it ??? |
It's a front for black social change in the guise a Christian church. Christ was not about social change. He was about people changing their hearts. |
I am going to resist my overwhelming urge to go into a diatribe here ... but
You insult EVERY Black member of the Christian faith that has gathered together since campfires were held on the plantations of the south... EVERY Black church that I have gone to from country churches in Eldorado Virginia to Mega chuches in LA preach social change to some degree. Your statement shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the position of the church in the Black community
Your radical disreguard for the religious convictions of other AMERICANS serves only to discredit you. |
I did not make any comment about all blacks, you falsely extrapolated that yourself.
I made a comment about one church that teaches hate. |
Easy extrapolation to make ... if it teaches social change then it is a "front" and "Christ was not about social change" therefore it cannot be Christian ...
Your twisted logic ... not mine ... my statement stands |
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08/30/2008 02:18:40 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by nomad469:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
He didn't even have the political sense to leave Rev. Wrights hate-mongering "church" until he got called on it. |
Hmm... gotta write that one down. "HawkeyeLonewolf (scribble, scribble) criticizing Obama (scribble) for failing to leave Christian Church (scribble, scribble) because it was preaching hate." Now I just need a mat and a nice frame. ;-) |
*****.
Didn't say anything of the sort. Wright's church is not Christian at all. If you had the intellect to read a bible you would know that.
*SIGH* As usual, you bring nothing of value to a conversation. |
UM ??? It ain't Jewish... and it ain't Druid...and it ain't Hindu ... what is it ??? |
It's a front for black social change in the guise a Christian church. Christ was not about social change. He was about people changing their hearts. |
I am going to resist my overwhelming urge to go into a diatribe here ... but
You insult EVERY Black member of the Christian faith that has gathered together since campfires were held on the plantations of the south... EVERY Black church that I have gone to from country churches in Eldorado Virginia to Mega chuches in LA preach social change to some degree. Your statement shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the position of the church in the Black community
Your radical disreguard for the religious convictions of other AMERICANS serves only to discredit you. |
I did not make any comment about all blacks, you falsely extrapolated that yourself.
I made a comment about one church that teaches hate. |
Easy extrapolation to make ... if it teaches social change then it is a "front" and "Christ was not about social change" therefore it cannot be Christian ...
Your twisted logic ... not mine ... my statement stands |
And still stands as incorrect. Christ clearly was NOT about social change. or Hate. And Wright's church is all about hate. |
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08/30/2008 02:31:31 PM · #74 |
whew...
It's only 1PM and I am looking for a bottle of JD
[Stuff deleted] nevermind ... it just isn't worth it ...
I got pictures to process
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08/30/2008 02:46:17 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Calling yourself a church leader now? |
No, that would be the people running the 5,518 local congregations of the United Church of Christ, of which this particular church is the largest. The UCC is affiliated with 7 seminaries and 18 colleges, and has a relationship of full communion with numerous other denominations. These people and organizations all recognize the church as Christian, yet you have the audacity to say, "Wright's church is not Christian at all. If you had the intellect to read a bible you would know that." So all these members, pastors, seminary students and affiliated churches combined lack the intellectual capacity to read the Bible as well as you? What an spectacularly egotistical display of bias and hatred!
Oh, NOW I remember... you're the guy who claimed Catholics aren't Christians either. I'm sure the Obama campaign would love to have someone declaring to Americans who's "really" Christian while campaigning for McCain. With the combined clout of all the people who meet your personal definition of "true" Christians, you might win the governorship of Alaska. :-/
Message edited by author 2008-08-30 14:47:47. |
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