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08/20/2008 01:14:44 PM · #51

Originally posted by kolasi:

I cant see Chinese people having a revolution in order to have a system like the USA has any time soon

How soon we forget.

Message edited by author 2008-08-20 13:17:31.

kolasi

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08/20/2008 08:41:27 PM · #52

Originally posted by kenskid:

Originally posted by kolasi:
I cant see Chinese people having a revolution in order to have a system like the USA has any time soon

How soon we forget.

in a country of 1.2 billion thats the equivalent of 3 people with posters outside the white house.

and now would be an even greater chance for such a movement to arise, but dont see one happening

Message edited by author 2008-08-20 20:42:25.

ambaker

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08/20/2008 09:49:42 PM · #53

Originally posted by kolasi:

I think that you do not have a very good understanding of China and Chinese culture. Chinese people have a collective mentality and place much greater value on society as a whole rather than the individual. It was like that during feudal times and was one reason why communism was easy to adapt to. So, ideas such as free speech are not as imporant as having a strong nation. I think what the Olympics have done is make CHinese people feel in awe of their country and feel very proud to be part of this new superpower. I cant see Chinese people having a revolution in order to have a system like the USA has any time soon

I don't remember saying that they would or should have a USA type of government. If revolution means guns and struggle to you, then that was not my intention either. What I said was, that in 10 years it can be quite a different place. Currently they do have a collective mentality. However, even as we speak the seeds of other thought, other ways, are being sown by their contact with outsiders. The hardest thing to do is to keep a culture "pure". Contact with the outside breeds independent thought. When Hong Kong was absorbed, the party thought they could keep the capitalist ways confined to certain areas. The problem is that when one person becomes prosperous, their neighbor wants some too.

ambaker

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08/20/2008 10:05:04 PM · #54

Originally posted by kolasi:

Originally posted by kenskid:

Originally posted by kolasi:
I cant see Chinese people having a revolution in order to have a system like the USA has any time soon

How soon we forget.

in a country of 1.2 billion thats the equivalent of 3 people with posters outside the white house.

and now would be an even greater chance for such a movement to arise, but dont see one happening

Well, google reports (as of July 2007 for both countries) that China has 1,321,851,888 and the US has 301,139,947 people. Based on the estimates of 100,000 protestors (Wikepedia) that would be equal to 22,781 protestors outside the White House. Would be impressive on the evening news to me... And if we ratio out the 2,500 or so killed, that would still be about 569 people killed outside the White House. Even if we took the comunist party numbers instead of the Chinese Red Cross that would be 25 people killed outside the White House. Still impressive in my mind.

You may dislike the US, many do... Some with good reason... But please don't pretend that nothing significant happened in that square. Life may be cheap in your neighborhood, but to throw around misleading numbers like that cheapens it even further.

Mick

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08/20/2008 10:17:33 PM · #55

FYI, we have 24 registered users and 1 paid member that list China as their location.

I wonder if any of them are willing to sell their gold medals. I'm pretty sure everyone there got one or two. They were handing them out like Halloween candy. :D

paynekj

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08/21/2008 06:22:25 AM · #56

Originally posted by paynekj:

We've already had at least one medallist fail a dope test:
doping

And now another one?
Heptathlon

It's not just the humans who fail doping tests

Mick

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08/21/2008 06:43:20 AM · #57

Originally posted by paynekj:

Originally posted by paynekj:
We've already had at least one medallist fail a dope test:
doping

And now another one?
Heptathlon

It's not just the humans who fail doping tests

Can't they just say neigh to drugs? :D

signal2noise

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08/21/2008 07:46:23 AM · #58

Originally posted by paynekj:

We've already had at least one medallist fail a dope test:
doping

I'm still trying to wrap my head around a shooter being disqualified for doping. Really? Shooting? I had no idea that drugs could improve your ability to aim/fire.

cpanaioti

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08/21/2008 09:48:21 AM · #59

Originally posted by signal2noise:

Originally posted by paynekj:
We've already had at least one medallist fail a dope test:
doping

I'm still trying to wrap my head around a shooter being disqualified for doping. Really? Shooting? I had no idea that drugs could improve your ability to aim/fire.

The drugs were for anti-shake.

signal2noise

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08/21/2008 09:51:06 AM · #60

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by signal2noise:

Originally posted by paynekj:
We've already had at least one medallist fail a dope test:
doping

I'm still trying to wrap my head around a shooter being disqualified for doping. Really? Shooting? I had no idea that drugs could improve your ability to aim/fire.

The drugs were for anti-shake.

I guess a shot of tequila just wouldn't do. :-)

08/21/2008 11:28:43 AM · #61

Thank you Ambaker for a very good interpetation. 25 killed outside the White House would be a MAJOR ordeal as it should be.

What happened in the "square" over those few weeks was very important.

Thanks again.

Kenskid

Originally posted by ambaker:

Originally posted by kolasi:

Originally posted by kenskid:

Originally posted by kolasi:
I cant see Chinese people having a revolution in order to have a system like the USA has any time soon

How soon we forget.

in a country of 1.2 billion thats the equivalent of 3 people with posters outside the white house.

and now would be an even greater chance for such a movement to arise, but dont see one happening

Well, google reports (as of July 2007 for both countries) that China has 1,321,851,888 and the US has 301,139,947 people. Based on the estimates of 100,000 protestors (Wikepedia) that would be equal to 22,781 protestors outside the White House. Would be impressive on the evening news to me... And if we ratio out the 2,500 or so killed, that would still be about 569 people killed outside the White House. Even if we took the comunist party numbers instead of the Chinese Red Cross that would be 25 people killed outside the White House. Still impressive in my mind.

You may dislike the US, many do... Some with good reason... But please don't pretend that nothing significant happened in that square. Life may be cheap in your neighborhood, but to throw around misleading numbers like that cheapens it even further.

08/21/2008 11:29:32 AM · #62

They don't "arise" because they would be squashed in an instant.

Originally posted by kolasi:

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08/21/2008 12:36:00 PM · #63

Too Young

This may not seem important except that if DQ'd then the 4th place finisher would get the Bronze. I think the 4th place finisher is in her last Olympics.

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

08/21/2008 12:59:37 PM · #64

Makes you wonder what else China has done to 'put on a good show'.

Mr_Pants

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08/21/2008 01:10:06 PM · #65

Originally posted by eqsite:

Only in Canada is hockey considered a summer sport :p

Hockey is, indeed, a summer sport, as it's played on grass. It's ice hockey that's a winter sport, as it's played on, err..... ice.

Mr_Pants

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08/21/2008 01:11:33 PM · #66

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

For Canon users, that translates to Image Stabilisation.

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08/21/2008 08:05:42 PM · #67

Here is the news.
In the words of the REV .... China's chickens ahhhh are coming home to roost.

If the kids are too young then they should be DQ'd. I know some will say it would be horrid to take the medal away...However, think about 4th place.

Just like the "tiebreaker" rule...we don't like it but agreed to it. When the US got sliver b/c of a tie, we stood on the lower podium.

If the Chinese gymnasts are under age then they should lose those medals.

I dug a bit and found out why the "age" limit in gymnastics and a lower age in "diving". Seems that the Gymnastic Associations believes that very young girls are still growing and the rigors of high intensity gymnasts in World and Olympic competition is bad for developing bodies.

Message edited by author 2008-08-21 20:12:29.

digitalpins

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08/21/2008 08:12:26 PM · #68

there could be trouble for china

//sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/IOC-orders-investigation-into-He-Kexin-s-age?urn=oly,102564

kolasi

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08/22/2008 01:52:10 AM · #69

Originally posted by kenskid:

You may dislike the US, many do...

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um...Im probly just as american as you are, maybe more....and I definately dont 'dislike' it

Im not continuing this cause its not the right forum for political talks

Message edited by author 2008-08-22 01:52:44.

Judi

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08/22/2008 04:30:50 AM · #70

Originally posted by paynekj:

We've already had at least one medallist fail a dope test:
doping

And now another one?
Heptathlon

Even horses from 4 teams have failed doping tests!!!!