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08/18/2008 09:30:05 AM · #51

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by kyebosh:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wenld5jcyUQ irony much? Sorry it's funny to me.

The US didn't invade Iraq, we liberated it. If you feel you own the world you don't invade anything. ;-)

*SIGH* Why do liberals hate America?

Why do Americans hate the word "liberal"?

08/18/2008 09:33:36 AM · #52

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Obamageddon!

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

*SIGH* Why do liberals hate America?

This is the level of discourse we need in this country.

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Overall, history, instead of the media, will remember Bush rightly as one of the greatest US presidents (Reagan and Washington were tops). He authorized too much spending (Only Congress can actually spend), but all politicians suffer from that sickness.

Bush's biggest failure was his (and McCain's) amnesty attempt which fortunately conservatives managed to block. That was a close one.

Poe's Law in action again. I can't tell if this is satire or whether you are serious.

08/18/2008 09:39:32 AM · #53

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Poe's Law...

Re, the 2nd definition: "Salvific efficacy"? Good Lord. "Give me some of that salvific efficacy, I want to stave off acute rapturic occlusion."

08/18/2008 09:43:17 AM · #54

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by kyebosh:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wenld5jcyUQ irony much? Sorry it's funny to me.

The US didn't invade Iraq, we liberated it. If you feel you own the world you don't invade anything. ;-)

*SIGH* Why do liberals hate America?

Why do Americans hate the word "liberal"?

We don't... It's a great word. It's just been tainted by the detrimental actions, policies, and views of the left.

08/18/2008 09:44:35 AM · #55

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Obamageddon!

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
*SIGH* Why do liberals hate America?

This is the level of discourse we need in this country.

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Overall, history, instead of the media, will remember Bush rightly as one of the greatest US presidents (Reagan and Washington were tops). He authorized too much spending (Only Congress can actually spend), but all politicians suffer from that sickness.

Bush's biggest failure was his (and McCain's) amnesty attempt which fortunately conservatives managed to block. That was a close one.

Poe's Law in action again. I can't tell if this is satire or whether you are serious.

100% honest and serious. Reagan took a whipping in office too (I thought I was a liberal then and chimed in too)... But he is either #1 or #2 in this country's history.

08/18/2008 09:51:48 AM · #56

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

100% honest and serious. Reagan took a whipping in office too (I thought I was a liberal then and chimed in too)... But he is either #1 or #2 in this country's history.

You might want to consider this (or look out the window):

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What did Bush do that is so great that it outweighs everything listed above?

And what would the detrimental actions and policies of the left be? Do you have a few examples?

Message edited by author 2008-08-18 09:55:59.

08/18/2008 09:56:30 AM · #57

Boys, you're hijacking. Rant nice.

bspurgeon

Fujifilm x100

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

08/18/2008 10:34:04 AM · #58

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Seems a logical conclusion of the last 8 years. I'm sure Barbara tells him that every night. I don't expect this to change much over the next 50 years.

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Bush's biggest failure was his (and McCain's) amnesty attempt which fortunately conservatives managed to block. That was a close one.

Biggest failure?...thanks for acknowledging the existence of his really big failures, almost really big failures, just plain big failures, the abundance of medium sized failures, and, let's not forget the little failures.

jprezant

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

08/18/2008 02:35:18 PM · #59

Did you just say that G.W.B. was one of the greatest presidents ever?

Message edited by author 2008-08-18 14:35:33.

08/18/2008 03:00:37 PM · #60

Originally posted by bspurgeon:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Overall, history, instead of the media, will remember Bush rightly as one of the greatest US presidents (Reagan and Washington were tops). He authorized too much spending (Only Congress can actually spend), but all politicians suffer from that sickness.

Seems a logical conclusion of the last 8 years. I'm sure Barbara tells him that every night. I don't expect this to change much over the next 50 years.

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Bush's biggest failure was his (and McCain's) amnesty attempt which fortunately conservatives managed to block. That was a close one.

Biggest failure?...thanks for acknowledging the existence of his really big failures, almost really big failures, just plain big failures, the abundance of medium sized failures, and, let's not forget the little failures.

You need a lesson in English it would seem.

08/18/2008 03:00:55 PM · #61

Originally posted by jprezant:

Did you just say that G.W.B. was one of the greatest presidents ever?

Truth hurts, eh?

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

08/18/2008 03:04:37 PM · #62

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by jprezant:
Did you just say that G.W.B. was one of the greatest presidents ever?

Truth hurts, eh?

Yeah... maybe that's why this causes so much laughter.

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

08/18/2008 03:09:02 PM · #63

Hey

HawkeyeLonewolf have you met

RonB I think he works for the administration as well.

And Louis is right that was a very funny joke! Keep'em coming. :-))

08/18/2008 03:09:16 PM · #64

dpcnoconservatives.com

Now that we are back on topic, wouldn't that be a terribly boring site:

"Go Obama"
"Yeah"
"I concur"
"Me too"
"Whoop Whoop"

Debate makes things interesting. If people are critiquing your work for being risque or inappropriate, then that is between you and them, not all conservatives think that you are out of line, just like not all liberals are in support of it. I'm conservative and I don't think Bush was the greatest president ever, I think he has made some errors, but I sure as heck wouldn't call him one of the worst presidents ever. He has probably taken the biggest beating from the media, which should influence me to think he is bad, but I try to not base my opinions on what the media says too terribly often. I do however count Reagan as one of the best presidents this nation has seen, if not the best. Back on topic though, the dpcnoconservatives.com seems a little out of line, i understand you don't like people condemning others for their work, i don't think that should happen like that either, but the way your title reads, it comes across as "I hate all conservatives", whether that was your intention or not. Just my opinion though, take it or leave it.

08/18/2008 03:09:47 PM · #65

Originally posted by Sam94720:

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What did Bush do that is so great that it outweighs everything listed above?

And what would the detrimental actions and policies of the left be? Do you have a few examples?

HawkeyeLonewolf, could you please turn to the two questions above? It's not very helpful when one side yells "Your policies are detrimental! Obamanation!" and the other side yells back "No, your policies are detrimental! McBushies!". Some actual arguments, some facts & figures would be nice.

08/18/2008 03:12:40 PM · #66

Originally posted by Sam94720:

And what would the detrimental actions and policies of the left be? Do you have a few examples?

I'm not real thrilled about Obama's idea to take money from the big oil companies and give it to the people. Yeah I'd love to have $1000 extra, but you can't just take from a business because they are doing so well. That is borderline communism.

RayEthier

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

08/18/2008 03:16:36 PM · #67

Originally posted by ryand:

Originally posted by Sam94720:
And what would the detrimental actions and policies of the left be? Do you have a few examples?

I'm not real thrilled about Obama's idea to take money from the big oil companies and give it to the people. Yeah I'd love to have $1000 extra, but you can't just take from a business because they are doing so well. That is borderline communism.

Perhaps you would care to provide a link to this statement of fact.

Ray

08/18/2008 03:20:56 PM · #68

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by ryand:

Originally posted by Sam94720:
And what would the detrimental actions and policies of the left be? Do you have a few examples?

I'm not real thrilled about Obama's idea to take money from the big oil companies and give it to the people. Yeah I'd love to have $1000 extra, but you can't just take from a business because they are doing so well. That is borderline communism.

Perhaps you would care to provide a link to this statement of fact.

Ray

Its in the second paragraph on CBS's site here.

08/18/2008 03:23:35 PM · #69

Originally posted by ryand:

Ehhhm, where did the oil companies get their money from? Maybe from the people who pay way too much at the pump? Just an idea...

And what would the "detrimental" effect of higher taxes on the dozens of billions in oil income be?

08/18/2008 03:29:25 PM · #70

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Originally posted by ryand:

Originally posted by Sam94720:
And what would the detrimental actions and policies of the left be? Do you have a few examples?

I'm not real thrilled about Obama's idea to take money from the big oil companies and give it to the people. Yeah I'd love to have $1000 extra, but you can't just take from a business because they are doing so well. That is borderline communism.

Ehhhm, where did the oil companies get their money from? Maybe from the people who pay way too much at the pump? Just an idea...

And what would the "detrimental" effect of higher taxes on the dozens of billions in oil income be?

You can't take money from someone who earned it. I don't like high gas prices either, but it is their money. I don't think they should be making that much money either, but they created the business, they have the right to make as much money as they possibly can.

Analogy:

Say you run a photography business, and you decided that you were gonna charge out the roof prices for your prints, but people kept paying it, is it fair to tax you extra to give back to the people that you serviced.

Message edited by author 2008-08-18 15:29:41.

08/18/2008 03:31:46 PM · #71

Originally posted by ryand:

As GeneralE pointed out elsewhere, it's also a very important part of Christian ideology.

08/18/2008 03:38:39 PM · #72

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by ryand:

Originally posted by Sam94720:
And what would the detrimental actions and policies of the left be? Do you have a few examples?

I'm not real thrilled about Obama's idea to take money from the big oil companies and give it to the people. Yeah I'd love to have $1000 extra, but you can't just take from a business because they are doing so well. That is borderline communism.

As GeneralE pointed out elsewhere, it's also a very important part of Christian ideology.

This isn't about Christianity, I'm not exactly sure how that got into the topic. Anyways, Acts 4:32 is talking about a church congregation not a government. Our government (or any government for that matter) doesn't run like a church congregation or a group of believers, its a government. I would love it if we could run our country by sharing all of our money and everyone provided for each other, but that isn't how it works.

08/18/2008 03:39:03 PM · #73

Originally posted by ryand:

If you charge out the roof prices as a photographer, people are likely to take their business to your competitors. This isn't possible in the case of oil since the situation is close to a monopoly (or an oligopoly rather, a cartel). And if the customers still come to you anyway, you should pay taxes on that income, yes. And your percentage rate should be higher than that of poor people, yes. Because your quality of life is hardly affected by the tax, that of poor people is. And we want to make sure that the basic needs of the poor people are met, not only because we are nice and compassionate, but also because we'd rather help them pay their food than see them turn to crime.

Let me ask again: What is the "detrimental" effect of taxing oil income? In what way is society worse off?

08/18/2008 03:45:17 PM · #74

Originally posted by Sam94720:

Let me ask again: What is the "detrimental" effect of taxing oil income? In what way is society worse off?

Okay, we can neglect my analogy, but my point remains that stealing from peoples businesses is communism. It doesn't matter how much they make, or whether people should be paying the price, its a simple matter of not being able to take someones money that earned it. The truth is that even though the oil companies can afford to lose a little bit of their money, that doesn't mean that we have the right to take it.